“Big Twenty” – What Did the Menoa Tree Take From Eragon and How Will This Impact Book 4?

The story of a lonely elf — once carefree and joyous, now filled with jealousy and rage — is a cautionary tale told among the elves, who hope to protect young elves from falling prey to such emotions. Linnëa was once a beautiful and talented elf who enjoyed spending her many days singing to the plants and trees of Du Weldenvarden. Her mistake – sharing her love and trust with a young and immature elf – resulted in betrayal, murder, and the Menoa tree.

Linnëa is now the Menoa tree: a mighty and ancient tree which guards over the plants and trees within Du Weldenvarden. Within this ancient tree rests the sentient consciousness of a once-great elven maiden. To this day, some of the elves’ most important events and celebrations take place under the Menoa tree; however, one event stands out the most for our heroes, Eragon and Saphira: the recovery of the brightsteel needed to forge a final Rider’s blade. Something was taken from Eragon that day. What did the Menoa tree take? How will it impact Eragon and Saphira in the future? We explore this and more in this week’s Big Twenty article!

An Elf and a Tree

The tree is also a sentient female being with a glacial sense of time appropriate to a tree’s long life, and intimately bound up with the story of an elf named Linnëa.

Although she was young and beautiful, Linnëa’s elf lover grew tired of her.  When she caught him cheating on her, she killed him in a fit of passion.  She escaped in to the heart of Du Weldenvarden, where she used the ancient language to magically fuse her body and consciousness to the Menoa tree and has since become guardian of Du Weldenvarden.

Understanding the Menoa Tree

The largest tree in the great forest of Du Weldenvarden, the Menoa tree is gigantic enough to allow a dragon to nestle in its branches – which it has, on many occasions! We’ve visited the tree during Eragon’s varying journeys through Ellesmera, and the site has been home to several key events which have and will continue to shape Eragon’s future.

Christopher explained the tree better than anyone else could:

A lone pine tree stood in the middle of the clearing. No taller than the rest of its brethren, it was thicker than a hundred regular trees combined; in comparison, they looked as puny as windblown saplings. A blanket of roots radiated from the tree’s massive trunk, covering the ground with bark-sheathed veins that made it seem as if the entire forest flowed out from the tree, as if it were the heart of Du Weldenvarden itself. The tree presided over the woods like a benevolent matriarch, protecting its inhabitants under the shelter of her branches.

During Eragon’s first visit to the tree, he “encountered an immense entity, a sentient being of such a colossal nature, he could not grasp the limits of its psyche. Even Oromis’s vast intellect, which Eragon had been in contact with in Farthen Dûr, was dwarfed in comparison to this presence. The very air seemed to thrum with the energy and strength that emanated from” the Menoa tree.

He continued to observe that the tree’s “thoughts moved at a measured pace as slow as the creep of ice over granite. It took no notice of Eragon nor, he was sure, of any single individual. It was entirely concerned with the affairs of things that grow and flourish in the bright sunlight, with the dogbane and the lily, the evening primrose and the silky foxglove and the yellow mustard tall beside the crabapple with its purple blossoms.”

It’s difficult to imagine a tree of such immense power and size… capable of sentient thought. We later learn that it’s capable of revenge, hate, and anger – all qualities one would have never considered a tree could possess.

The Menoa Tree’s Involvement in the Cycle

Firstly, the Menoa tree is the site of the Agaetí Blödhren, the centennial elven celebration of the ancient pact that formed the Dragon Riders.  During the festivities, the tree is decorated with hundreds of multicolored lanterns, creating a rainbow effect.  The celebration, performed around the gigantic tree trunk, is done with respect so as not to offend the tree. It was here, and during this celebration, that Eragon’s life was changed dramatically: the dragons bestowed upon Eragon the gift of elven strength in addition to healing him of ailments, altering his features, and other gifts.

The Menoa tree was also central to a piece of cryptic advice – which some would argue constituted as a prophecy – given to Eragon by the werecat, Solembum. When Eragon first met the werecat many months ago in Angela’s herbal shop, the werecat stopped him to advise: “When…you need a weapon, look under the roots of the Menoa tree.”

It wasn’t until their second visit to Ellesmera, after Eragon had already visited the Menoa tree on numerous occasions that the advice finally came into play. As Eragon was searching for a sword to replace Zar’roc, he and Saphira visited the Menoa tree and asked for its help.  When the tree did not answer, Saphira bathed the tree in fire, a hasty and unwise decision which angered the tree. Eragon was forced to beg forgiveness for her error. The tree did relent and offered to give Eragon the brightsteel he sought if he agreed to give her what she wanted in return.  Eragon agreed; the tree then revealed the brightsteel among her roots, but she remained silent when Eragon asked what she wanted.  Her wish remains a mystery, and a point of a few interesting theories.

(We used The Inheritance Almanac to gather a large amount of information used in this section – we highly recommend checking the book out! It’s the only official companion guide to the Inheritance cycle, allowed by Christopher Paolini himself!)

So – What Did the Menoa Tree Take?

The key sign of what the tree may have (or may have not) taken is found within the twinge Eragon felt in his lower belly during this exchange.  This alone seems quite innocuous during a first reading of Brisingr, but within context – attempting to understand what was taken – it begins to reveal something more. What could the tree have taken?

One of the most popular theories is that she took his ability to father children.  Linnëa was irreparably jaded towards men after her lover’s betrayal, and the thought of her wanting to prevent a man from producing offspring does not seem like a far reach.  In Eragon’s haste to acquire the brightsteel, he may have ruined his chances to father a family, so that Brom’s lineage is officially at an end.

Another, seemingly more unlikely theory, is that the Menoa tree will be the one to compel Eragon to leave Alagaësia forever, which was another part of Solembum’s prediction.  The fact that one part of his prediction came true gives fairly good credence to the other part coming to fruition as well.  Considering the Menoa tree’s tie to one part of the predictions surrounding Eragon’s future, it may not be too much of a reach to assume that the tree, and by extension, Linnëa , will play more roles in Eragon’s fate. Is it too farfetched to believe that Eragon being forced to leave Alagaësia would be hinged on what he and Saphira would have to do to get the weapon from under the tree’s roots?

Some fans also choose to favor the idea that the Menoa tree has yet to take anything from Eragon other than his pledge.

Time for Fans to Weigh In

Fan response to last week’s “fan involvement” in the Big Twenty article was overwhelmingly positive – and fans had some really great contributions! Because of the success, we wanted to offer fans another chance to contribute to our Big Twenty series. We asked Shurtugal.com Facebook Fan Page visitors to share their Menoa tree theories with us, and we received some incredible results!

Lemuel H: “She took his dignity.”

Robert R: “Perhaps there was more to Eragon’s transformation during the Blood-Oath Celebration than just physical or magical, perhaps there’s a new part of him that he didn’t know about (whether it’s an internal organ or certain part of his being) that the Menoa Tree took from him (as he had some strange feeling in his abdomen afterwards).”

Kylen A. M.: “It was his favorite pair of socks. DARN YOU MENOA TREE!!!!!!!”

Casey S: “I think the Menoa tree is going to ask something ridiculous of Eragon, like bringing her Galbatorix’s or something like that. And if he can’t do it she’ll claim either his life or Saphira’s instead.”

Liam A: “it’s something that she took already, so cannot be a task, I think she took the most important thing for him, his true name, so nobody can use it against him, but how do you know if somebody took your true name?”

Ben R: “People say she took Eragon’s fertility. I think she took Saphira’s. We’re never told how dragons reproduce, but we have been hinted that it’s not typical. Eragon felt a twinge of discomfort in his gut, which resulted from his being connected to Saphira. The Menoa Tree had a grudge against dragons, and Eragon told her that Saphira was the only hope for the future of the dragons. He could have the metal, if there wouldn’t be any more dragons to burn down the woods”

Nathan F: “A memory perhaps, I mean it doesn’t need to be a ‘physical’ thing, to be taken away from him… could be love for someone, hatred for someone? Personally I think it’s a memory.”

Aaron P: “I think the Menoa tree took Eragon’s word. As in what he felt in his stomach was the weight of the pressure from his promise. It was a big deal for him. He never promised something to a tree.”

Fabio M: “Eragon may have changed so deeply during the Blood-Oath Celebration that he actually became a permanent human-elf hybrid, capable of transmitting such characteristics to his offspring. The Menoa tree may have sensed this “oddity”, this curious new species, and may want to preserve it as the future of the elf-race in case this perishes, or just to start a new, “improved” species of her own (for what, I don’t know).”

Eric W: “Although I agree with the “reproduction” theory, I think she took it for a very specific reason. She is going to use it to recreate a new version of herself when she withers. I believe there is a end to her power soon, and she feels the power of Galbatorix messing with the flow of magic, and she is going to use her power to help the elves win the war, this killing herself, but creating a new, more powerful, guardian with Eragon’s ‘ability to reproduce.’”

If you want your voice heard in future Big Twenty articles, “Like” us on Facebook! Be sure to weigh in in the comments below — What do you think the Menoa tree took from Eragon? Did she take something from Saphira instead? Will we ever find out what was taken?

  • Bjames96 Swimmer

    Hey guys! New theory here, at least I think it’s new… What if the menoa tree took part of eregon’s destiny?? The part where he would leave forever… That would mean he could stay! 🙂 I hope this is true! He just HAS to stay!

  • Ahmiiie

    how bout this:

    she took his seed and planted it in her – new race is born. or she planted her seed in him so when he has a child, she is reborn.

  • Eirik Engene

    I personaly think she took his immortality, or some ability he had that was harmful for the menoa tree

    • Whitschristmas

      How would his immortality harm a tree?

  • Elfwriter

    Ugh come on people. There is a purple dragon in eragon’s guide to alagaseia. Cp has clearly stated, there are no more hidden dragons in alagaseia. THEREFORE, Saphirs has produced off spring.
    In Brisingr, the menoa tree said she would take something, not give something. I really have no idea where some people get there ideas.

    I really am not trying to sound rude and snobbish I am simply expressing my firm opinions. Please everybody, let’s stay realistic.

  • Wyrda

    maybe wht he felt was fear, whn im scared i get a bad feeling in my gut..

    • Kveykva

      I doubt it CP’s plots are always intricate. He always has a purpose to what he writes.

  • Colonel Graff

    Just pointing out that Eragon leaving Alagaesia was not part of Solembum’s prediction, it was Angela’s.

  • Dortch316

    Why did the Tree have to “take” anything.  “The twinge Eragon felt in his lower belly during this exchange” might be the Tree’s seed and Eragon will be unable to stay in Alagesa because the Tree will force him to travel the world “spreading her seed”.

  • Ivain

    right now i’m working on figuring out all of the connections and possible links. i don’t have acess to that “guide to book 4”, but maybe that’s just as well. then i can take a look at it myself. and i’m certainly not going to forget that Brisingr was written with Inheritance in mind, meaning the mysteries already have an ending. i hope i will be able to figure it out before the actual book is published:)

  • I think the Menoa Tree took eragons ability to love, so he knows how she felt, having her love taken away, she might want to use it for herself but i doubt it. 

  • paula.lobo

    does eragon have an eldunari ? Oo !  “the gift of the dragons”: it giving eragon an eldunari might have been (also) giving eragon an elduanri 🙂

  • paula.lobo

    i know i know i know ! THE MENOA TREE  TOOK SAPHIRAS  ELDUNARI !!! o shit, if this is right we have a problem 😉

    • Ivain

      yea, but at least it’s safe from galbatorix. i personally prefer a tree over a mad king-rider

  • paula.lobo

    but maybe… the thing he felt was the weight of the promise he made to the menoa tree.  or the menoa tree wanted his abdomen for something 😀

  • Growe Green

    I thought that the twinge in his belly was something going in.  Maybe it is some spell that will force him to do what she wants when he is away from her?  (thus making him something like her avatar?)

  • Maybe the Menoa Tree took Saphira’s Eldunari! Eragon felt it across their physical link in a similar way to how he felt the injury Saphira sustained when Glaedr rejected her affections in Eldest …

  • Phillip l

    i dont really know which theory is more likely eragons abllity to reproduce or saphiras. but to be perfectly honest i kinda hope that its neither i hope cp has come up with something enterily different to leave us all gobsmacked 🙂

  • Ivain

    actually, coming to think of it, if my theory isn’t true, and none of yours are, it isn’t that suprising. the plot of the last three books has been so cmplicated, it might all be interwoven, from all the prophecies, dreams, curses and unknown relations to Elva, the last dragon egg, and even Sloan. why do you think cp spent nearly a decade writing this book, while hee took much less time on the others? he wove the plot so thick he can barely end it all to his own and our satisfaction.

  • Ivain

    i think the part about the menoa tree taking something from saphira is right, and as for “fires must be extinguished”, does anyone remember the liquid saphira uses to breathe fire is in her belly? maybe she will no longer be able to breathe fire after defeating galbatorix.

    • makenna52

      i would have to double check, but it seems like saphira used fire in the battle at feinster–which was after the run-in with the menoa tree . . . anyone remember?

      • Ivain

        after defeating galbatorix… but you’re right, it does seem unlikely. right now, i’m listing all important mysteries just to make the most educated guess i can come up with. if i had only discovered this site sooner…

  • John

    i think that Eragon actually became half dragon – not elf.  and the Menoa tree actually took Eragons Eldunari.

  • mgdyo420

    i dont kno if this has been said because theres alot of comments but i think the menoa tree didnt take his ability to reproduce but mearly place part of her in him so when he does she will be reborn back into the world and escape from the tree shes been stuck in for decades

    • mgdyo420

      or maybe she just longed for people food because it had been so long and took the food in his stomache… lol stupid theory but you never kno

  • Meredith

    menoa took his appendex lol

  • Glerk

    If the tree did take away his ability to reproduce, who’s to say he couldn’t heal himself?

  • coliee03

    What if instead of taking something from Eragon, she put something there? Like maybe the compulsion to leave Alagaesia. Just as he caused Sloan to travel to the North. Perhaps the Menoa tree has made it so that once Eragon overthrows Galbatorix, he’ll have to leave Alagaesia?

    • Sallystar6of7

      does no one read what other people say anymore, cause that theory has been said a whole lot already.

    • Sallystar6of7

      does no one read what other people say anymore, cause that theory has been said a whole lot already.

    • bella ♥ vita

      She would need to know Eragon’s true name to do that. Eragon was only able to compel Sloan in the way that he did because he had unintentionally figured out Sloan’s true name.

  • Xaranzlordx

    About Eragon leaving Agalaesia, I think he will because when he fought a monster or sometin O_o the monsta said,”Curse u and i hope u will  leave Agalaesia” IDK O_o

    • Sallystar6of7

      he was fighting the last razac, but angela said it first.

      • bella ♥ vita

        Don’t forget the soldier in Feintser. He too cursed Eragon to leave Alagaesia forever.

    • Sallystar6of7

      he was fighting the last razac, but angela said it first.

  • Luc B

    The Menoa tree said that all fires must be extinguished… so it leads me to the thought that the death of Saphira might be what the tree takes from Eragon in payment. 

  • Tyler Whitlock

    She took his dinner :P.
    No really, if it was something physical, it would have something to do with his digestive system or reproductive system. So it’s. I can’t imagine taking his kidneys, liver, or pancreas to be that monumental to the plot. I hate to break it to all of you, but this seems to be like the Brom father theory that everyone was debating. Some said he was definitely so, and others said not a chance. It turns out he was the father of Eragon. Likewise I think a lot of people have hit the nail on the dot, and others who sincerely wish Eragon could have kids are adamant that that isn’t the case.

    On the other hand, I would really like for it just to be the steak he ate the night before 🙂

  • Ajaykboom

    come on guys she does not need to take eragon’s fertility to reproduce or saphira’s to stop dragons or elfuman or anything because she is herself capable of ending war with galbatorix as she is described as sentient being with aal the forest by her side she can march single handedly in battle and kill galbatorix but she is not concerned about all of it or magic, emotions’ love or anything she likes plant and there music she would wait for the right moment and right thing to take rather than taking eragons ball and by the way sometimes person feels nothing and he becomes infertile  i know it as i 
    am a doctor 

  • betajay

    Has anybody considered the Urgal story? About how that urgal lady wanted to be beautiful so badly that she promised anything? It’s got several similarities with Eragon’s situation, if you think about it. Maybe there’s some kind of hint as to what Eragon will have to give up?

    • Márcia Louro

      yeah, i thought abbout that too . in urgal history the “god” take to the female one thing that she loved (her son) maybe the tree will take something that eragon love (arya, saphira …)

  • Micerule4

    I think that the twinge in his stomach was from his connection to Saphira. The Menoa Tree had taken Saphira’s heart of hearts.

    • Radarlin

      She couldn’t have. Otherwise Saphira, and through her Eragon, would be well aware.

      • BrunoLikesInheritance

        actually maybe not because they hadn’t learned what eldunari were yet the menoa incident i believe was before he learned what they were 

  • Sykang529

    I always thought the Menoa Tree would help Eragon and Arya love because she could not love a man younger than her

    • Bob

      The Menoa Tree could take his love for any woman but Arya, so that he couldn’t cheat on her and become another enchanted tree

      • Bjames96 Swimmer

        Bob!! Hey I had a theory on this that hasn’t been mentioned! I’ve listened to all the podcasts (up to 19) and I think the menoa tree, took part of eregon’s destiny! Like hoe how he would “leave forever” it was stolen! Maybe he gets to stay!!! :)) that’s my hope

      • Bjames96 Swimmer

        Hoping this is the bob from podcasts

  • stranger

    i think that she gave him some form of new power that he does’nt know about yet.

  • Mr. Anonymous

    I had a feeling that it had something to do with Eragon’s reproduction as a theory even before hearing these theories! Guys understand when you get hit in that certain area, you feel a pain, or “twinge”, in your lower belly. That’s what I immediately thought of when I read that part.

    • Eragon Shadeslayer

      No. when ever you get hit down there, you usually tend to go down on our hands and knees starting to cry because someone hit you in your nono area.

  • Phoenix107

    Are we even sure that she took something from Eragon? Is it possible she gave him something instead?

    • Sallystar6of7

      what do you think she would give him?(not meant sarcastically)

      • Littlee62

        hmm who knows maybe she gave him a compulsion to save trees if they are in trouble or maybe its something like what a bunch of people said like she implanted some of her self into him. 

  • Sallystar6of7

    “she took his dignity”?????????? what does that mean????????????????

    • Matt S

      Use your imagination. 

      • Sallystar6of7

        cp said when we found out we would be like “OOOOHHHH!!!!” dignity is not the type of thing that makes you go “OOOOHHHH!!!!”.

  • Eragon Shadeslayer

    Off topic, but does anyone know anything on Eragon the First’s dragon besides the color of his scales??

    • eebi

      His name is Bid’Daum.

  • Eragon Shadeslayer

    HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE GONNA KEEP SAYING THE WERECAT GAVE THE RIDER THE PROPHECY!!!!!!!!!!! IT WAS THE WITCH!!!!!!! (so people don’t get confused… IT WAS ANGELA WHO GAVE HIM THE PROPHECY WITH THE DRAGON BONES!!!!!)

    • Sallystar6of7

      your anger is justified. people why don’t you read eragon again and come to terms with the fact you are wrong.

      • Fairth

        The anger is justified, but there’s no reason to text-shout.  Also, I’m not sure that anyone has noticed, but there have been at least as many posts trying to clear this up as there are making this error.  By this point, the people making the error should have figured this out by now, but they haven’t, and continued efforts to clear this up are redundant bordering on spam.

        • Sallystar6of7

          were just making it clear that we are annoyed that people are arguing about who gave him the prophecy, it was angela and thats that.

          • Ajaykboom

            prophecy of leaving alagasia was given by angela but advice of menoa tree was given by solembum dont mess up guys

          • Sallystar6of7

            thats what we were talking about!

      • Eragon Shadeslayer

        THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!

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    • Shurt’gal

      ok look  Angela DID see his future but Solembum told him a few pieces of advice like : when you need a weapon go to the menoa tree and go to the rock of kuthian and speak your heart into the vault of souls  so it WAS Solembum who told Eragon to look under the menoa tree if yout don’t believe me …read the book Eragon again !

      • Eragon Shadeslayer

        I meant about the dragon bones.

      • mgdyo420

        if you read the passage above it also says solembum told him he was gna leave alagaesia when it was actually angela so thats prob where everyones gettin confused

        • bella ♥ vita

          Exactly. Angela read his fortune while Solembum gave him advice. Angela is the one who foretold him leaving Alagaesia forever and Solembum is the one told him to look under the Menoa tree when he needed a weapon.

  • Jirioxy

    the twinge in his stomach may have just been a bad feeling he had, as if he’s made a mistake. he’s had prophetic dreams before, maybe he sensed the menoa trees bad intentions

  • Siddhant S

    perhaps, she’ll ask Saphira to lay her first egg there… its just a theory…

    • Sallystar6of7

      not to kill your theory but linea said that all fire needed to be exstinguished, so i dont think she will want a little baby dragon hanging around.

    • Sallystar6of7

      not to kill your theory but linea said that all fire needed to be exstinguished, so i dont think she will want a little baby dragon hanging around.

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  • Elena Shadeslayer

    i really hope that it has nothing to do with taking away fertility, because… well it just doesn’t seam to fit. idk. 

    • Sallystar6of7

      that is what i think, it would likely take years for eragon to even find out, and frankly i dont think that it would really come into play a relavant part in the book. and for the theory that it was really saphiras twinge, i believe there is a refrence in eragons guide to alegasia to a new/young rider, and there are(according to cp) no other dragons in alegasia.

    • Sallystar6of7

      that is what i think, it would likely take years for eragon to even find out, and frankly i dont think that it would really come into play a relavant part in the book. and for the theory that it was really saphiras twinge, i believe there is a refrence in eragons guide to alegasia to a new/young rider, and there are(according to cp) no other dragons in alegasia.

      • bella ♥ vita

        Good point about the loss of his ability to produce offspring not seeming to be something that would really come into play in book 4. I never gave it much thought before, but you’re right it could take years for him to even find out and it is kind of hard to see how this discovery would fit naturally into the flow of the story in book 4. Besides if he does end up with Arya, can they even produce offspring together anyway? I’d like to think that they can, but I can’t recall any elf/rider or elf/human hybrid children mentioned in the books, however that doesn’t necessarily mean anything one way or the other. Eragon isn’t a normal human anymore by any means and maybe not even a normal rider. He’s a bit of a mystery as far as exactly what species he is now and considering how rare elf/rider and elf/human unions were there may very well be no precedent for it.

  • Taylor-kay

    i have to agree with her influence of him leaving alegeasia. it was prophesized that he would, and what better way could there be that connects to the story. i just hope arya doesnt go with him, that would be to cheesey

    • Littlee62

      in a way her making him leave alagaesia is possible. in their convo she says “i hate dragons, they burn” she could realize that by compelling eragon to leave she compels saphira and therefore all the rest of the dragons. by making sahira leave the rest have to follow because she is the last the female dragon. so it would make sense that all the rest would go with her to help the dragons grow and what not. 

    • Shurt’gal

      i’m with you Angela did say he would leave Alegeasia forever so maybe ust maybe that was the Menoa Tree’s wish

    • bella ♥ vita

      I take it you also don’t want him and Arya to end up together then. If she were his mate then she would obviously go with him especially if she ends up being the green dragon’s rider as well which I’m sure you’re probably also against.

  • makenna52

    someone else has already said this, but I think it unlikely that the Menoa tree “took” Eragon’s ability to father children . . . first, because that’s just weird, and second, because I just don’t see that working into the end of the series. Eragon is focused on overthrowing Galbatorix, not starting a family; I just don’t see him finding out about his infertility in the midst of the battle for the Empire. This isn’t a very interesting theory, perhaps, but whenever I read this section, I always had the impression that she changed her mind and took nothing from him, at least not right then. When she says “go”, I guess that didn’t strike me as “leave Alagaesia” (although I suppose that would fit, but wouldn’t she be more specific?), but just “leave with the brightsteel, I’m done talking to you.” As far as the twinge in Eragon’s gut, that could really be anything–nerves, regret, fear, bad food, the beginnings of a spell that the Menoa tree never finished, etc. etc.

    • Elena Shadeslayer

      YES!!!! thats exactly what i think. i think she she felt pity for him or something like that and realesed him. but i agree with u

    • Eragon Shadeslayer

      That makes sense. and taking his fertility will help no one, since if the dragons hadn’t changed Eragon during the Blood-Oath Celebration, he wouldv’e ended up with the same abilities, same power, and same mindset given enough time. As for the twinge, it could be anything, your right, but since no one knows except Christopher himself, we have to guess. I hate guessing.

  • makenna52

    Several people have mentioned the eldunari . . . can that be taken from a dragon by magic? I would have to reread Brisingr, but I thought that a dragon’s heart of hearts could only be given or taken after it was disgorged. I know there’s also the part of a dragon transferring its consciousness into it . . . I’m a little fuzzy on those details, but if it could simply be removed by magic anyone could take one from a dragon at anytime. Regardless, I have trouble believing that this is what the Menoa tree took. I find it far more likely that the tree took something from Eragon, since she posed the question–“will you give me what I want”–to Eragon, not Saphira.

    • makenna52

      whoa . . . meant to post this at the end, not right in the middle of these replies . . . sorry

  • Littlee62

    has anyone ever thought that it might be possible that she made it so that if eragon had children that he would give birth to another one of her. maybe a clone of her or something. giving her self a second chance as an elf. maybe all the years as a tree made her regret her rash decision to kill the man and woman that betrayed her maybe she wished to live another life as and elf and maybe see if she could it again. i have also been thinking that whatever she took would be something that would benefit her. taking his immortality or his ability to father children doesn’t really make since. it would have to be something that would help her in some way. 

    • lastrider

      that makes sense

    • Elena Shadeslayer

      omg, that seams reasonable to.  i like that idea

  • AryaRose

    I just wanted to respond to this theory that she took Eragon’s true name.  I don’t see how that’s possible.  Just think about the Forsworn’s dragons who lost their names.  They lost their identities and decended into madness.  Now I know the dragons lost ALL of their names but wouldn’t losing your True Name cause the same thing? I mean it’s everything essential about who you are and I think that if you lost that it wouldn’t just be a twinge in your gut, it would be a way bigger deal with all kinds of psychological and emotional problems.

  • Nik S.

    Couldn’t it be something simpler? Maybe, in order to stay sentient, the elf-tree needs apiece of life to retain her intelligence under the onslaught of nature’s inherent magic. Maybe she just took a chunk of fat, or some such, in order to bolster her fading intelligence and interest in the world. She’s the only one of her kind, so it’s not like anyone has a basis of comparison.

    • Sallystar6of7

      but if you remember, when eragon touched her mind it was strong. so she wouldn’t need something to make her stonger, would she?

      • bella ♥ vita

        Their comment didn’t say anything about strength. It said her intelligence and interest in the world. Strength has no bearing on intellect or interest. Not saying I agree or disagree with their theory, just pointing out what their comment actually said.

  • abhijit

    he will have to leave the land,and that thought of the werecat’s prophecy mixed with the word given to tree is what that caused clinching..lets see in 4th part.elf’s are represented with extraordinary understanding skills so less chance of any harming consequences looking at present world with probably no elf no dragons eragon may be ordered to take other races away from algaesia into new home..or they will abandon humans with eragon with the promise of choosing between saphira and other family friends…or some harsh decisions like that,that will not bring some calmness to the situation bt truely don’t stop writing make some follower of galbatorix to take his place.the scene is perfect for long stories..extremely well placed..

  • Anonymous

    Personally… I wish I had a time machine…

  • Bane501

    She took his imortality, DUH!!!!!!

    • Daniel S Emms

      I don’t think so. For a couple of reasons – The Menoa Tree is already immortal so she doesn’t need his long life. And it would also mess up the bond between Eragon and Saphira, how they grow together for example – I can’t imagine Eragon aging as a mortal while Saphira doesn’t and then we are left with a distraught and potentially furious dragon when he dies. 

      • Eragon Shadeslayer

        I’m with Daniel. She OBVIOUSLY took his favorite pair of socks. 🙂

  • kb

    I thought Linnea was old?

  • bol97

    I think what the menoa tree took was eragon and saphiras right to lie in alegasia. or i might have been a barrier of some sort to powers he didnt know about yet.

  • Omieyu

    I think that she might have taken Saphira’s Eldunari. It is in her belly region right? And maybe the Menoa tree made Saphira swear NOT to tell anyone. Eragon mearly felt a shadow of what Saphira felt. 

    • Eragon Shadeslayer

      but she didn’t show any discomfort during or after. If he felt something and wondered what if was, then Saphira would have been squirming in discomfert.

    • Abhimuna

      elfs even if the queen didnot know of the eldunari..

    • Jfpisaro

      Also, wouldn’t she Be connected to the tree at any distance? Though I was thinking maybe Eragon is closer to a dragon than a elf now, and he was given an eldunari… But then same concern as before.

    • bella ♥ vita

      Aside from the fact that I’m pretty sure Oromis said that it was impossible to magically remove a dragon’s eldunari (the dragon must be the one to disgorge their heart of hearts), the existence of the eldunari were kept secret. It was not common knowledge handed out carelessly even among the riders. What possible reason would the riders or dragons have had to confide such information in the tree or even Linnea when she was still an elf? The tree would kind of need to know it existed and what it was in order for her to see its value let alone take it.

      • BrunoLikesInheritance

        well there is a problem with that because if that dragon has to be the one to disgorge it how did galby get all the ones he has now?

        • bella ♥ vita

          Where exactly is the problem you speak of? I don’t see any problem at all. Have you read Brisingr? Oromis specifically explains to Eragon and Saphira how Galbatorix obtained all of his eldunari in the chapter where he and Glaedr first reveal the existence of them to Eragon. The fact that the dragon must disgorge it is also discussed. I suggest you read that chapter if you need a quick refresher on eldunari and the mechanics of the disgorging process. It wouldn’t hurt to also read the chapter where Glaedr disgorges his own heart of hearts to give to Eragon. I’d give you the chapter names, but right off the top of my head I can’t remember the exact names at the moment.

  • Mr-x

    My only wish for Inheritance is that we will have more information on brom/eragon go visit his tomb/Extremely Unlikely but very hopefully being resurrected.

    • Guest

      I really hope he goes back to Brom’s tomb too, he did promise.  I’d be very disappointed if he didn’t keep that promise but I don’t know if I’d even want him to be brought back to life.  Eragon has become so much stronger since his death and has coped with it and let it shape his character for the better.  I feel that if Brom came back it would dull down some of the fire that drives Eragon.  Like “dad’s here so I don’t have to get revenge for his death anymore” and all the secrecy that surrounds Brom’s knowledge would be no more since Eragon could just ask him anything he’d need to know etc.  CP should devote a few chapters or maybe a whole other book going into more detail about Brom though.

      (And Sorry if I sound snobbish, I’m not meaning to bash your post haha.  I guess I’m maybe too opinionated. )

      • Sallystar6of7

        i like the idea of brom coming back to life, and i hope he will. since bringing some one back from the void is one of the things he was told not to do by brom and oramis, it would be fitting somehow. and since he already took his revenge on the razac(brom and garrow) it isn’t just revenge that is driving him now, although it still is a big part(he still has to avenge his teachers).
        it would be very cool if cp devoted a book to brom and selina(although i for one do not believe she is dead).

        • Eragon Shadeslayer

          Then there’s no point. If he gets resurected, and Eragon survives, then Brom would be young and Eragon closer to death. And the book says that when Brom returned to Morzan’s castle, she was already dead.

      • Shurt’gal

        no but as Brom said in Eragon… “Even the most expierienced riders died trying to ressurect the dead” they died on the threshold thingy or whatever … so it would be impossible ( its not that i don’t want him to be dead but  if Eragon would just die in the process it would be pointless)

      • N!ck

        What if spirits could bring back the dead? because the book says that they have huge amounts of power. or maybe even the vault of souls?

  • Are you sure it was the favorite pair of socks? Because when it happens to me, I just end up with one sock missing.

    Eh, the Menoa tree’s a bit like a dryer.

    • bigmike

      My dog always eats my favorite (right) shoe. Only the right. I dont think he has ever even touched the left ones at all.  :/

  • Chaoswolf2014

    wtf now eragon cant have kids well thats just weird and i dont think that cp would do that

  • Kat J L

    Oh no! Not the socks!

  • Anonymous

    Okay this whole debate has been going on waaaay too long. It was ANGELA who predicted that Eragon would leave Alagaesia forever. Pg 204 of Eragon:

    “Look closely at this bone. You can see how its end rests on that of a sailing ship. That is impossible to misunderstand. Your fate will be to leave this land forever. Where you will end up I know not, but you will never again stand in Alagaësia. This is inescapable. It will come to pass even if you try to avoid it.”

    • Blackthornrose

      thank you! i know i’ve replied to a few, telling people that exact thing – that it was angela not solembum!

    • Yeah yeah.  I know.  I wrote it without the book and didn’t bother to look it up.  It’s irrelevant who said it.  It was at the exact time, so the article doesn’t really lose any value.  Sorry though. 😛

      • Anonymous

        Oh I don’t care about that. I was just talking about all these comments arguing about it

  • Blackthornrose

    In response to the theory about the Menoa Tree taking Saphira’s fertility, that would make the letter in Eragon’s Guide to Alagaesia impossible then, since he is writing to a future dragon rider, unless there are somehow eggs that survived without being detected by anyone. And on that note (Eragon’s Guide, not Saphira’s fertility), maybe the new shadow that Eragon refers to is the recreated Linnea, still angered over her betrayal?  I think she either took from him a way to recreate herself, or as someone else theorized, that she took his true name (thus accounting for the feeling he had afterwards, as though he had lost a part of himself). I’m not sure if that would make sense, or what she would gain from doing such a thing, other than being able to use it against him in the future possibly…but i don’t see her being quite that vengeful toward Eragon

    I just know I can’t wait until November 8th! It’s only a month away, and yet that seems like such a long time!

  • Cctc11891

    My birthday is the 8th! Yay for me!

    • Goldilocks Gamgee

      So’s mine 😀 I wait in hope for the coming of Inheritance…and my 13th birthday!

  • Mew6

    This article says”the Menoa tree will be the one to compel Eragon to leave Alagaësia forever, which was another part of Solembum’s prediction.”

    I thought Angela predicted that. Not Solembum.

    • Jahooty**

      Nope solembum

      • Blackthornrose

        actually no, it was angela, when she was reading the dragon bones for eragon….

  • Weihdisdkjfsjk

    Personally I think she took his immortality.

    • Sallystar6of7

      why would she do a silly thing like that?

    • Shurt’gal

      she wouldn’t need it . she is already immortal . if she wasn’t then how could she be there if she sang herself into the tree thousands of years ago or whatever ?

  • Ben98Lalonde

    Eragon might me the king of all of Alagaesia for a while because;
    1) The dwarves (foster brother of Orik)
    2) The Elves (possible husband of Arya, who would be queen)
    3) The Humans (the Palancar Valley blood)
    4) The Urgals… (?)
    And then ERAGON has these new ties with The Menoa tree.
    Maybe like the trees in LOTR?

    • Sallystar6of7

      i am pretty sure that eragon told ajihad(or orimis) he would not take the throne unless no one else was willing or capible enough to.

      • shurt’gal

        he told both of them

      • bella ♥ vita

        It was Hrothgar actually, who asked if Eragon would take the throne for himself once Galbatorix was gone and that also upon hearing Eragon’s response said that they didn’t need another immortal king and discouraged him from even considering the possibility of ever ruling. All things considered I’d actually say Roran seems a more likely choice for king than Eragon, but as of right now I really don’t know who I think will end up ruling once Galbatorix has been defeated.

    • bella ♥ vita

      I thought Arya said or at least implied that she has no interest in being queen though? I also believe the word you’re looking for would be mate not husband because remember the elves don’t practice marriage like humans do. They simply take a mate for whatever amount of time they choose whether it be forever or only a couple years.

  • Loveisextynct

    What I dont understand is why she took something from Eragon in the first place?! It was Saphira who burnt the menoa tree and saphira who yelled at her and was rude, eragon was there trying to contact the tree peacefully. Eragon doesnt rule Saphira, she is a perfectly sentient being who understood her actions therefore why didnt the tree take something from saphira. Its the age old argument, why punish someone for someone elses actions?

    • Anonymous

      Eragon asked for the brightsteel, and she asked for something in return

    • Eragon Shadeslayer

      well, if someone tried to destroy something valuable of yours, and another was in the way, wouldn’t you punish the guy in the way first??

  • Sallystar6of7

    Mike you have some wrong info on your page, Linnea was not young and beautiful, she was old, that was why her and the young elf man were not ment to be together, that was the whole point of Aryia telling him the story.

    • Anonymous

      Actually, she really was not that old, she was a middle-aged elf who was an
      expert at singing to plants. She preferred to spend her time doing this than finding a mate. And since she was an elf I’m sure she was pretty beautiful.  Then a young elf wooed her, and for a time they were happy. Then the man started to want a younger mate, and found and wooed a younger elf woman. Linnea became enraged, and after killing both the man and woman, she sung herself into the oldest tree in Du Weldenvarden.

    • Littlee62

      yeh i am pretty sure it was like Vanir talking to Arya. it wasn’t that she was old and feeble it was just that she was years older than him and it didn’t work. 

    • Tomasleadbeater

      Arya is spelt ARYA not ARYIA!!!!

    • Shurt’gal

      you spelled Arya wrong

    • Eragon Shadeslayer

      She was still beautiful because she was an elf. And how can you spell Arya wrong??

  • bigmike

    I think she might have put a part of herself into him so that a peice of her could live on if she died or something.

  • benjimon!

    Could the twinge he felt not have been his, but Saphiras ? Perhaps the Menoa tree was taking Saphira’s ability to breath fire ..?

    • Faisal Janabi

      She was breathing fire all over feinster…

  • Laurelleaf9

    Kylen A. M.: “It was his favorite pair of socks. DARN YOU MENOA TREE!!!!!!!”  
    I totally agree. ^_^

  • Pwjax1

    The menoa tree acknowledged that Eragon was a species all of his own. I believe she took some of his DNA. The Menoa tree could be creating the new rider.

    • Sallystar6of7

      Chris said the new rider was in all 3 other books.

      • Tomas Leadbeater

        Then the other rider is Murtagh

        • Rune Lauridsen

          Murtaghs already become a rider XD  he had an epic fight with Eragon in the end of the 2nd book wich Eragon actually lost.. from a strategical point of view XD

  • Gabsofsteel

    she definitlet took saophirras eldunari

    • makenna52

      not possible, unless Saphira disgorges it.

      • bella ♥ vita

        THANK YOU! I’m glad to see someone else thought of this not-so-minor detail!

    • Shur’tugal

      Saphira is spelt SAPHIRA not SAOPHIRRA!!!

  • Littlee62

    i always thought that since it was angela who predicted, that the meaning could be real but not the total truth. when angels read the bones for eragon eragon was a different person. he was young and impulsive. adolescent in nature. but maybe that prophecy has already been fulfilled. maybe the eragon that she predicted has left alagaesia forever and never will return because between ERAGON (the book) and ELDEST he has changed exponentially…. but maybe it could mean eragon leaves alagaesia to find the rock of kuthian and when he comes back he finds something that changes his whole being so he wont be the same eragon that left. just theory, and i know this was completely off topic but i had to share before i forgot or something haha.

    • Casey

      one problem though, it was not Angela who gave Eragon the prophecy, it was solembum. So that kind of screws that all up. since werecats are supposed to know events in the future. Plus i dont see any reason that Solembum would just screw with eragon.

      • DanHoover1985

        No Angela gave the prophecy withthe dragon knuckle bones and then solumbum gave him the riddle/advice.

      • Llittlee62

        yeh dan is right. solembum gave him the advice about the tree and the rock of kuthian and angela cast the bones and told him the prophecies… he would be betrayed by family, someone would die, leave alagaesia and never return, etc. 

      • Tomasleadbeater

        Angela made Eragon’s prophecy. Solembum told him about the Menoa Tree.

    • Eragon Shadeslayer

      That might work… I see no problem with the thought, and I think that could be it. like you said, Eragon was impulsive, young, and naive in the first book. In the second, he is trained to read, write, behave himself, better magic, better swordsmanship, and he was trained into a elf/human hybrid. There’s a deffanat change there. PLUS, he’s IMMENSLY changed when he learns of his parents, gets the brightsteel, and helps create Brisingr.

      • Aedail

        I think the only way this would work is if he changed so much that his true name changed. this seems pretty unlikely though, because his true name is pretty much everything that he is. its possible that it could happen at some point, but we can probably agree that he has remained the same basic character throughout the books.

        • Eragon Shadeslayer

          Ya, but I’m pretty sure he isn’t a farmboy with a dragon bent on revenge. He’s a dragon Rider. He is changed.

  • Matt

    C.P. did say in an interview that it was something rather obvious and when we found out we would all be like “ohhhh”

    • Jirioxy

      what interview? i wanna c it…

  • testicle man

    As he asked her what she wanted from him all she kept saying was away..away..away….. i think this means she want s Eragon to leave Alegesia forever. And this fits into the theme that by the end of the series one rep from every series will have cursed eragon by telling him to leave allegesia and never return.. Razac, humans, Dwarf, and urgal, and i think a shade have all already said this too him. 

  • Rscpplayer

    —-Off Topic—-
    What if Solumbum’s prediction DOESN’T come true? I mean it’s a prediction. And yes I know Eragon had a dream which(possibly) showed him and someone else leaving on a ship. But what if this one prediction doesn’t come true.
    And also, what if the Menoa tree didn’t take anything from Eragon, and the pain Eragon felt was just pain. Ever thought of that? O.o

    • Ty1wooten

      It was not solumbum’s prediction it was angela’s!!!

    • Hawwk

      it wasnt pain, it was just a twinge of discomfort. what would cause that other than taking something?

      • bella ♥ vita

        God I really hope you’re being sarcastic with that question.

    • Maping

      The tree hit him in the balls with a root. 🙂

  • Mr-x

    Could not linnea just have been taking a sample of his DNA as she had said she had never encountered someone like eragon she might just be cataloging his DNA. as for planting something in him sure why not plants use the sun for photosynthesis so why couldn’t she plant a seed or such in eragon allowing him to call on the suns energy to aid him. although I’m not sure what you would call an Elf Human Tree Hybrid perhaps Fred… lol  

    • DanHoover1985

      That could be a very possible theroy about the sun since in eldest Eragon did ask if it was possible to draw energy from light, heat, ect since in essence they were nothing but energy in differing forms. All in all an interesting thought to consider.

    • Eragon Shadeslayer

      Ya, but then all she would have to do to bring herself back is wait for another Rider to see her, kill him, take the sample, and continue with recreating herself. But any sane person will see that that is bull because then the dragon will rally the others and burn the forest to the ground.

  • Mr-x

    Another off topic question but was the fate of Vrael’s dragon ever discussed I’m not sure i saw anywhere in galbatorix’s fight with vrael that he actually killed his dragon could do with some enlightenment on this please?

    • lpfrye

      i don’t believe that information has been given…but my odd theory is that the mountain in the Hadarac Desert that is offset from the others is a dragon itself from long long ago since dragons keep growing (or so I think I read that they continue to grow as they age)

  • It would just be totally bombed if she took eragon’s ability to reproduce, or saphira’s…  It could also be that she implanted something in eragon, rather than take something away…  All I know is that november the 8th has to come NOW…Then we can rest our curiosity 🙂 hehe!

  • biscuit

    Reading this, I realized how many connections Eragon has to Alagaesia. He spent the course of Brisingr forging bonds with the elves, dwarves, and Urgals; the werecat spoke with him when it had rarely spoke with any human before; he connected with nature throughout Eldest; and of course, he is a Dragon Rider. By connecting with the Menoa Tree, he has yet another tie to Alagaesia. I have no theory about what the tree took, but reading this article and the comments, it made me think that Eragon could represent every aspect of Alagaesia, and if he does indeed have to leave the country forever in the end.. well, I don’t know that either.

  • bigmike

    I have a slight suspicion that she didnt take anything from Eragon, not yet at least, but she actully places something into him. I dont know what it is but Im thinking that it might be something that will aid him in times of great need. Maybe she put a part of her own consciousness into him as she did with the tree so that she may view things through him which are past the forest boundries that she cant reach into. Or so that she can have a part in the outcome of the war through eragon, or just to keep an eye on him to make sure of his well being to make sure he is alive to fulfill his promise to her. Something else that she might have place inside him could be a part of her DNA into his seed to ensure that her own line is passed on by altering the DNA of his seed because she is unable to have her own children anymore. Just a thought.

    • Elfwriter

      She might take his first born child

  • jake s

    Possibly it took his ability to love another, since her elf life was tormented by love and she may feel she can not love anymore

    • Hawwk

      it doesnt mention his feelings for Arya after that at all, so thats definitely a possibility

  • mike B

    has anyone thought she might not have taken something from him but given something else?? maby a thought or a compulsion to aid the forest or something?

  • Littlee62

    i would just like to point out that the prediction that he would leave alagaesia forever was angela and not solembum. 

  • JustPlainEric

    WOOOOO!!! I WAS FEATURED. SO EXCITED!

  • AryaForce

    Funny that I drew this out of two theories. Either Eragon or Saphira lost the ability to reproduce, but only in Alagaesia (sorry if I spelled it wrong). So they have to leave in order for them to prosper in producing off-springs.

  • Anonymous

    I already can’t be the “reproduction” of Saphira. Cuz in Eragon Guide To Alagaësia we have a Dragon Rider (Maybe the The Rider a Greenie or not (lets say not)).
    I agree with the theorie of “The Menoa Tree takes Eragons Predection of leaving Alagaësia” 🙂
    Maybe The Menoa Tree just taked nothing of Eragon?

    • Anonymous

      Yeah, maybe the one thing she wanted was for him to go. Just right that moment, just go away

    • Anonymous

      Yeah, maybe the one thing she wanted was for him to go. Just right that moment, just go away

    • Anonymous

      Yeah, maybe the one thing she wanted was for him to go. Just right that moment, just go away

  • Mr-x

    Okay this is completely off topic but what if Inheritance Ends with bit of dual story lining like what Christopher did in Eldest and Brisingr with Roran’s story line. Say as we have The sotry going through the assault on Uru’baen but we also have the story from a different point of view say one of the varden/elven children trying to be a brave heroic person you know how kids get think they can save the day whilst eragon is dueling it out with galbatorix this child comes across the green Egg unguarded because galbatorix is focusing all his strength and will on defeating Eragon the child approaches the Egg and places his right palm on the Egg really awakens at the presence of it’s rider galbatorix having already used his dark magic to sense what the egg is having some kind of mental link with it to sense when it’s going to hatch “The mental link that galbatorix has with it is my own creation obviously”. Upon sensing this galbatorix falters at feeling this happen leaving himself open and allowing eragon to defeat someone much more powerful than him pretty much in the same way galbatorix exploited vraels kindness except that eragon is just seeing galby is distracted and taking action.before Galby dies i think he will have some sort of confession obviously. Tell me what you’s think I need that criticism.

    • Sophie M

      I’m of the opinion Greenie won’t hatch till the end too

      • Eragon Shadeslayer

        If that happens, then I won’t really be happy. I’ll be happy that Greenie is hatched, the next Rider is risen, Murtagh and Thorn are free, and the land of Algaesia has its peacekeepers, teachers, healers, politicians, and generals back, but I won’t be happy because that’s kind of an underhanded way to kill the tyrant. Ya, he deserves to die, but death by torture or by the hand of his stolen dragon would be better.

  • Daniel S Emms

    What will happen to Oromis’ sword? There was so much energy in the jewel attached to it. And will the elves win that battle? Can’t get the image of Glaedr and Oromis falling from the sky. The impact and devastation would have been intense. 🙁

    • Daniel S Emms

      (out of my head)

      • Eragon Shadeslayer

        so am i 🙂

    • Anonymous

      I imagine that the elves will win the battle. They are, after all, elves. And i don’t think Murtagh and Thorn will have continued to fight after killing Glaedr, Thorn was pretty badly wounded. He lost a huge chunk of his tail!They’ll probably flee and try to heal it while the elves win.

      • bigmike

        That chunk of his tail is a huge disadvantage to his flying ability because he needs every inch of it to steer him through the air. Saphirais already a better flier, without that portion of his tail, he is S-O-L to put it bluntly.

        • Huge Fan

          Don’t forget magic… They can just instant-heal that like it was nothing, especially with galbatorix giving them his full attention. I’m pretty sure they won’t even have a scratch for the next fight.

          • Anonymous

            Really? I’m not so sure they can regrow his tail. I mean, if that was possible wouldn’t all of the elves join strength to regrow Glaedr’s leg?

          • Mr-x

            I think Galbatorix if anyone would have the ability to regrow a tail no doubt in his conquest against the riders shruikan would have been dealt several blows. perhaps he shall replace it with some form of metallic replacement idk.

          • bigmike

            But a hunk of metal on the end of his tail would throw him way off balance.

          • Mr-x

            not all metal is back breaking heavy but yeah i know what you mean but also i don’t think CP will ground thorn perhaps dragons can regrow their tail idk but i really doubt CP would take thorn’s ability to fly properly i mean even with his tail he was no match for saphira if they fought again and he didn’t have his tale only eragon or murtagh could stop saphira from ripping him limb from limb in the fight.

          • bigmike

            I just think that he will be at a disadvantage in the air without his tail, not flightless. Him not being able to fly never crossed my mind because he was still able to fly, and even catch Glaedr off gaurd for the final blow, after he had part of his tail bit off.

          • Eragon Shadeslayer

            Bigmike is rite. a big chunk of metal?? might as well ask eragon to remove a foot and replace it with the same material.

          • bigmike

            Even if they could regrow the bone, sinew, tissue, muscles, nerves, and all that other stuff that would take me forever to list, you still havent adressed the fact that Saphira is still a much more talented flier then Thorn(even with his whole tail) could hope to be. She has already out classed him a couple of times in the last two books. If the tail does come into play, it will be a huge disadvantage for Thorn. But it will be extremely hard to regrow a portion of his body, even with all the power he has access to.

      • bigmike

        That chunk of his tail is a huge disadvantage to his flying ability because he needs every inch of it to steer him through the air. Saphirais already a better flier, without that portion of his tail, he is S-O-L to put it bluntly.

    • Eragon Shadeslayer

      My guess is her majesty had an elf take it back to Ellesmera to be kept and protected. and ya, the impact would have been immense, but then the elves would fight all the harder. then, with their attention on Urul’baen, they would destroy the keep, even if they have to use their bare hands.

  • Steven N

    I’ve thought about this one for a long long time, and had meant to express it via voicemail, but a comment for all fans to read would be just as good.

    When I first read that passage in Brisingr, I didn’t even begin to think, “Oh, Eragon might not be able to make any little Eragons anymore.” My mind jumped, as it tends to do, into the a more obscure thing. I feel that the Menoa Tree actually took Saphira’s Eldunari. I have reasons, so please, bear with me.

    1: Assuming that Saphira’s heart of hearts has actually grown large enough for her to have disgorged it if she pleased, I assumed that, for her age, it would be roughly a few feet in length, at most. Glaedr’s was perhaps two, maybe three feet(though I may have misjudged when I read it), so it would be no surprise if Saphira’s Eldunari was roughly the size of the Brightsteel nodule.

    2: Eragon felt a twinge in his stomach, but that doesn’t mean he lost anything. If memory serves me corectly(as I don’t have the book in front of me or available at the moment), Saphira also reacted, though with a confused look and a snort. Now this might have simply been in indignation that a tree would need something from them, but I figure it was actually her confusion as her heart of hearts was magically removed from her torso. The only reason Eragon felt anything is because of his bond with that glorious blue dragon.

    3: And finally, I will try to tie in my earlier theory(which made it on the show, thanks again to the hosts). As I said in the aforementioned theory, the Rock of Kuthian is actually an ancient Eldunari hidden somewhere. Well, I’ve been thinking about it more and more as Book 4 draws closer to release, and it’s made me think that the RoK is somewhere within Du Weldenvarden. Now, I know that Oromis said he’d searched for years, trying to find the heart of hearts with his mind, but Saphira has shown her ability to simply block Eragon from saying anything to her, so why couldn’t an ancient dragon know a way to conceal its consciousness from the world, especially if it’s guarding something? Anyway, I feel that, if the Menoa Tree did take Saphira’s heart of hearts, it would explain how Eragon would get access to more power when his seems not enough. Having Saphira’s consciousness in Du Weldenvarden, in Ellesmera, at the center of that enormous forest, Eragon could draw energy from the Menoa tree and, through her, the rest of the forest.

    So, that’s my theory. hope you all enjoy it, and do pick and prod at it as you wish. I’d love to see  if I made a mistake, as it would let me fix my thoughts into proper order.

    -Steven N

    • Mr-x

      You lost me until that last part not the RoK being an eludinari although not a bad theory perhaps an evil dragon  who had his name banished by the other dragon’s maybe say that was the only way to stop him was send him insane thus being the reason arya and oromis recalling kuthian from somewhere but not being able to remember where they heard it. but  getting back on track if eragon could channel energy from the menoa tree through saphira’s HoH’s this would be a great advantage on his side.

    • Anonymous

      1) I don’t know what size has to do with it, especially when you consider the size of the tree. It’s huge, so why would it care for something so small.

      2) No, that’s wrong. The ground began to move, and the roots moved around and brought up the brightsteel.

      “As the ore came to rest on the surface of the rich black soil, Eragon felt a slight twinge in his lower belly. He winced and rubbed the spot, but the momentary flare of discomfort had already vanished. Then the root around his ankle loosened and retreated into the ground, as did those that had been holding Saphira in place.”.

      Then the tree tells them to Go… And the picked up the brightsteel and left. Saphira sniffed it once, then they started to walk towards Rhunön’s house.

      3) I’m not so sure about the RoK, but I have my own theories in that. But I don’t think the Menoa tree has access to all the power of the forest. I mean, Linnëa is still only an elf. We don’t know if he knows the secret of taking energy from plants and animals. Also, the tree has already done Eragon one favor, why another. She already thinks dragons, who breath fire, should be extinguished.
      And has for the Eldunari of Kuthian hiding itself, while Saphira could block Eragon out, she couldn’t hide her consciousness from him. What I mean is that he could still sense her. I think that Oromis, and certainly Glaedr would he able to sense an Eldunari in

      •why would Saphira not feel her Eldunari removed? As she said to Eragon: ” I have always been aware of my heart of hearts. Always I have been able to feel it inside of me…” So would she not notice if it disappeared?

    • Mei Mei

      That is a wonderful theory. Amazing, i never thought of it that way before. Of, course, my first thought was “oh no! eragon will never be a daddy!!!!” but i sure hope that your idea is the right one!!!!! Thank you for sharing, it makes the most sense so far!

    • DanHoover1985

      I don’t want to sound rude but I think you overlooked one key point with your idea of Saphira’s HoH being taken, she didn’t transfer herself into it so it would be inert and useless as a connecting point because in book 3 Glaedr states that untill a dragon transfers itself or it’s soul into the eldunari it is just another organ in the body; I would assume it to be equal to the gall bladder or the appendix. Like I said not trying to be rude.

      • Steven N

        Perhaps Christopher simply hadn’t wanted to state that she had already? i mean, she doesn’t have to disgorge it to transfer herself into it. It could simply be within her, but holding her mind. And no worries about sounding rude. I enjoy the criticism.

        • Anonymous

          But then how would she not notice that part of her mind is still in Ellesmera? She would sense all of the beings around her Eldunari as well as her body

    • Blackthornrose

      that actually sounds like a good theory, and more in-depth than the other ones about her eldunari being taken. It makes more sense the way you explained it. I’ve always kind of wondered about the RoK and VoS being a cache of eldunari, since i would think that many ancient dragons would be able to hide themselves quite well if they wanted to.

  • bobert

    she took his sperm and now she’s going to make a tree-baby

  • Saeb

    Although its fun to think of ideas I am lent to believe that the  feeling in his gut was just the ‘weight of his promise.’ I’ve had similar feelings myself (not necessarily from promises) – has nobody else?
    Also, I don’t think Christopher would take his actual seed as he’d have a hard time explaining that to young readers…

    • Fp

      I think he already let the cat out of that bag when Roran got his girlfriend pregnant.

      • Eragon Shadeslayer

        not girlfriend. fiancee.

  • DanHoover1985

    I think that it really makes more sense if she gave him something, I mean if she somehow connected Eragon to herself and essential making him a living embodyment of the forest. It has been pointed out that Eragon binds himself to everyone he meets wether he wants to or not, he’s bound to the dragons by Saphira; a pact that is increaced by the blood oath celibration, the elves because of their training; an once again by the transformation at the blood oath celibration, he is of coarse human to start with an has official ties to Nusuada, he is also a member of Orik’s famiy; by dwarf law, and lastly the Urgals have stated that Eragon will be welcomed as a warchife is ever he visits one of their villages. So it kinda makes since if some how the Menoa tree bound him to her taking away more of his freedom.

  • DanHoover1985

    I think that it really makes more sense if she gave him something, I mean if she somehow connected Eragon to herself and essential making him a living embodyment of the forest. It has been pointed out that Eragon binds himself to everyone he meets wether he wants to or not, he’s bound to the dragons by Saphira; a pact that is increaced by the blood oath celibration, the elves because of their training; an once again by the transformation at the blood oath celibration, he is of coarse human to start with an has official ties to Nusuada, he is also a member of Orik’s famiy; by dwarf law, and lastly the Urgals have stated that Eragon will be welcomed as a warchife is ever he visits one of their villages. So it kinda makes since if some how the Menoa tree bound him to her taking away more of his freedom.

    • Delysium

      That’s some bloody good thinking you got there..:D

    • Mr-x

      If christopher was here i think he would say “you hit the nail on the head”. excellent work

    • Anonymous

      Yeah, that’s not really groundbreaking. They’ve pointed out in the books that Eragon binds himself to everyone.

      But I personally don’t think the tree connected herself to Eragon in a literal sense. I think that since Eragon promised to give it whatever it wanted, that’s how he binded himself to the Menoa tree.

      • Asdf

        you just diss everyone’s theories 

        • Anonymous

          I’m not “dissing” anyone, I just reply and ask questions. I don’t claim to know everything, I just provide an alternative view on the topic at hand.

        • bigmike

          He didnt “diss” at all. He was just giving his own opinions. If anything, your the one singling him out as a disser and in such way dissing him yourself.

        • Eragon Shadeslayer

          OOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!! BURN!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • bigmike

      I said something of that earlier but it went into more detail of why she would connected a part of herself to him. But the basics are very simular to what you said.

  • Mlightner69

    This has been mentioned but here are my reasons for believing so:  I believe that she took from Eragon his “seed”, not his ability to reproduce.  She is once female and now stands as the guardian of the forest AND the elven people.  Those people have just went to war and stand to lose many of their number.  She has taken steps she believes will help to continue the elven people although in a new way.  A way that MAY re-invigorate the elven reproductive ability by incorporating humans vitality back into the bloodline.  We know that as it stands now elven children are few and far between as it has been a point made well clear.  Eragon’s “SEED” will be nurtured by the Menoa and grown into the salvation of the Elven people.

    • Eragon Shadeslayer

      THAT………………… could work.

  • tylerb

    I think she took his ability to love. Did anyone else notice that afterward he returned to the Varden from getting the sword that he didn’t have any special thoughts about Arya when he always has before when not seeing her for a long time.

    but the fertility would go along with him leaving alagaesia to never return. If he dies he will be “leaving” and without the ability to produce offspring will “never return”. plus Oromis did tell him that fortunes are hardly ever what you think they will be…

    • Anonymous

      But then he wouldn’t love Saphira anymore either, which we can tell he does

    • bigmike

      But that could be explained by the fact that they were in the middle of a battle. Emotions like that are a distraction. He has probably learned to suppress them when he is fighting for his life. But Im just spitballing……so…

    • Eragon Shadeslayer

      well gee, wouldn’t you kind of focused on something besides the one you love if your going to war to take down a tyrent king?? I would. I’d be kinda focused on winning the battle instead of what she’s wearing. He did she interest whether she was ok, but that’s as far as I would take it to. AND!!!!!!!! after the battle, he was overcome with grief at the death of Orimis and the “imprisonment” of Glaedr. If someone you care about is dead, wouldn’t you not want to talk to anyone about love at the moment?? I know I won’t

  • Anonymous

    Very far-fetched, but wouldn’t it be neat if unbenounced to riders they also receive elundari when having bonded with their dragon. Then the menoa tree took this from Eragon (why, I don’t know).

  • Hasn’t Christopher confirmed that the Menoa Tree didn’t take Eragon’s fertility? I could have sworn I read that somewhere…

    Personally, though the idea that it was Saphira’s fertility taken is intriguing, it’s impossible. If Saphira can’t reproduce, and if (as Christopher has confirmed) there are no more dragons in hiding, then the events of Eragon’s Guide to Alagaesia are impossible. A new generation of dragon riders have to have dragons to ride, and those dragons… kinda have to come from somewhere. 

    Though this is a biiit too vague for Christopher’s style, I would side with the theory that what he felt was the weight of his promise within him at that moment. It’s the theory that makes the most sense (due to the things Chris has confirmed in the past), but as I say, it seems a bit too subjective for Christopher’s writing. It wouldn’t fit the feel of the series well, and if it *was* his promise he felt, then Chris would have said so in the book. 

  • Hasn’t Christopher confirmed that the Menoa Tree didn’t take Eragon’s fertility? I could have sworn I read that somewhere…

    Personally, though the idea that it was Saphira’s fertility taken is intriguing, it’s impossible. If Saphira can’t reproduce, and if (as Christopher has confirmed) there are no more dragons in hiding, then the events of Eragon’s Guide to Alagaesia are impossible. A new generation of dragon riders have to have dragons to ride, and those dragons… kinda have to come from somewhere. 

    Though this is a biiit too vague for Christopher’s style, I would side with the theory that what he felt was the weight of his promise within him at that moment. It’s the theory that makes the most sense (due to the things Chris has confirmed in the past), but as I say, it seems a bit too subjective for Christopher’s writing. It wouldn’t fit the feel of the series well, and if it *was* his promise he felt, then Chris would have said so in the book. 

  • Alec Venecia

    I like the thought of The Menoa tree taking his True name. I believe she must overall favor good, or she would have not have given him the steel. But, she would still own him.

  • Anonymous

    I think that she took his sperm so that she can have a child.  Elf children are extremely powerful and gifted and could help against Galby.  A child of Eragon and the Menoa tree would be powerful and I think is likely.

    • Zach

      I don’t know about the reproduction theory because what would the baby be, third elf, third human, and third tree? that would be strange to say the least.

      • Eragon Shadeslayer

        and then Eragon wouldn’t just leave the land to escape the embaresment he would feel if the child finds him, and won’t leave him alone when he tries to whoo Arya

  • Yulerule

    This isn’t quite relevant, so I’ll include my take on the Menoa tree. I don’t think she/it took his or saphira’s ability to reproduce. i don’t think it was actually something phisical. Probably something connected to his magic.
    I just came up with a theory/question. What if Eragon figured out
    Murtugah’s true name? We are told that elves can figure out people’s
    true names, Eragon is now a kind of half-elf, he figured out Sloan’s
    true name, and he did spend a lot of time in Murtagah’s company.

    • Mr-x

      Good question what happens when two people know your true name and try to control you at the same time…. could possibly kill murtagh with the strain i hope this doesn’t happen i quite like murtagh.

    • Anonymous

      Christopher answered this in an interview, and I believe they said this on the podcast as well. The people would either die or go completely mad

      • Mr-x

        thanks i didn’t see that interview lets hope this doesn’t happen to murtagh.

      • Eragon Shadeslayer

        I thought that was only with Galby’s true name.

    • Eragon Shadeslayer

      ya, but he knew the baker for a longer time than he knew murtagh. But I get where your going with this.

  • Delysium

    I don’t really think that she took his fertility, because that would be too much of a big deal, and it would have ruined some of the plot

  • Ghunter1994

    It was Angela that predicted that he was going to leave and never return.. Not Solembum..

  • Mdoody83

    sorry forgot to finish, if the dragons did give him his own eldunari the menoa tree could have snatched that from him, which could account for the twinge in his stomach

  • Mdoody83

    the dragons are the ones who gave eragon his new abilities during the blood-oath celebration, but what if they didnt just give him elven powers and heal him what if they also gave him something only dragons had, an eldunari, a bit of a reach maybe but not completely out of the question

  • Callum McKay

    what if the menoa tree GAVE eragon/saphira their fertiility

    • lastrider

      that makes no sense

      • Blackthornrose

        actually it might kind of make sense for Eragon though. If he is half elf, and elf children are rare, maybe that might make it harder for him to concieve a child with someone – especially another elf. So maybe she could have given him a boost in fertility. And i suppose if you think along those lines, it might make sense for Saphira too. I mean, she’s got a whole race to rebuild. Wouldn’t she maybe need a fertility boost for that?

        • Eragon Shadeslayer

          well… that might be it, but why would she do something nice after Saphira burned her and stripped her of some of her bark??

  • timmy

    another fantastic article.  keep up the good work.  I cant wait for the next book and to see how the tree is incorporated in future books.  I like kaity’s theory in the comments, it is interesting, and i dont really like the “fertility” theory.  I like the interaction fans have by getting their theory’s in the article.  But I feel like when mike writes the whole thing he explains each theory in more detail, and pointing out strengths and weaknesses of each.  I love it and will read it regardless, just thought you might appreciate some feedback

  • timmy

    another fantastic article.  keep up the good work.  I cant wait for the next book and to see how the tree is incorporated in future books.  I like kaity’s theory in the comments, it is interesting, and i dont really like the “fertility” theory.  I like the interaction fans have by getting their theory’s in the article.  But I feel like when mike writes the whole thing he explains each theory in more detail, and pointing out strengths and weaknesses of each.  I love it and will read it regardless, just thought you might appreciate some feedback

  • snowlight silent night

    when ever i imaged the Menoa tree i think of Treeberd from lord of the rings for some reason just alot bigger. though i would be funny to see half the tree in du weldenvarden just to get up and started marching to uru’ bean to attack galbatorix and galbatorix sitting in hes castle with a wtf look on hes face

    • Rashmawi10

      That would be awesome but too similar and people would criticize him so much.

    • Blagden

      That happened in the Chronicles of Narnia! lol.

      • Coasterking

        except your wrong it was lotr the two towers

        • bigmike

          And in “The Last Battle”, which is the final book in the Narnia series.

  • noname….bobert

    If Eragon is now impotent, due to the Menoa Tree somehow stealing the ability from him, it would seriously irritate me no end. Not only do I believe that would a terrible plot device for Paolini to use, I believe its incredibly unrealistic. Nor can I understand how it would add anything to the story at this point in time. Also, how is the knowledge of Eragons impotence supposed to be uncovered and revealed to the reader? It all seems highly unlikely to me, as does the Tree doing the same to Saphira. We know from the Almanac that a new Rider is in Alagaesia, and seeing as how I can’t imagine another female dragon showing up to breed at any point in time, Saphira must still have her ability to conceive. I have no idea what was taken from Eragon, but having his ability to make little Eragon babies taken from him strikes me as completely ridiculous. If Paolini pulled something like that it would further cement my opinion if him as a rather poor author. They say the author makes the story, but I am of the view that in this case, the story made the author. Cheers, Mike.

  • Tucker

    There’s a flaw in the articles theory on the tree making Eragon leave, the Menoa tree was not a part of that prediction, that prediction came from Angela when she cast he dragon knuckle bones for him, the hint or help mentioning the menoa tree came with the info about the vault of souls from solembum, and while i don’t remember or have the book on hand with me the only part I believe has come true from Angela is a family member betraying Eragon. So basically Menoa Tree/Vault of Souls – Solembums fairly specific advice, Eragon leaving/ect – Angelas fairly vague predictions. 

    That said I have no legitimate idea of what the tree took or will take from Eragon, one idea i did have is that maybe she subplanted something in Eragon to help her witness the events outside of the forest.

    • PrometheusLKR

      The idea is that maybe ‘leave alagaesia’ was implicit when the menoa tree told him to ‘go…’

      • Delysium

        i think she would have made a bigger deal out of it… if that’s the case.

    • PrometheusLKR

      The idea is that maybe ‘leave alagaesia’ was implicit when the menoa tree told him to ‘go…’

    • Bryan Paine

      Actually quite a few things came true from Angela’s Prediction.
      1. The Betrayal
      2. The death
      3. The love

  • The Green dragon

    so when ix the pidcast coming out?

    • timmy

      didnt spell it right that time either, and it will be out when its out, and no sooner

    • timmy

      didnt spell it right that time either, and it will be out when its out, and no sooner

  • The Green dragon

    so when is the podcast coming ou

  • Erutnevda

    The fertility theory is not impossible.  But I don’t think that CP would do that, or that the Menoa Tree would do that.  Also, I don’t think that the Menoa tree would make him leave Alagaesia because I believe while him leaving will be a sad thing, I think it will also be a happy, bittersweet event that has to happen and that could possibly lead to new books.  My sketchy theory is, Linnea is very old and can literally see the big picture.  I think that she will take something very dear to Eragon and Saphira.  But it will benefit and shape the story greatly, but also Eragon’s hasty decision will be regretted.

  • Anonymous

    I think that everyone is VASTLY over estimating the power of the menoa tree. I mean, really, all she is is a changed elf. I don’t think she is powerful enough to do something like “give Eragon an eldunari” or “make Saphira infertile” I mean i think that both Eragon and Saphira would have felt something like that.
    And not to be rude or anything, but I find the whole menoa tree making Eragon or saphira infertile is ridiculous. there no way that the last female dragon was infertile, and she didn’t notice. And if not her, Glaedr must have been able to sense it.
    My theory is that the menoa tree meant what she said, she wanted eragon to go. Whether it means leave her at that time or leave alageasia forever. The discomfort Eragon felt did not seem to be that big of a deal.

    edit: or take saphira’s eldunari? withought her knowledge? really? come on now

    • Delysium

      No?

      She is the guardian of Du Weldenvarden and got control over a MASSIVE amount of magic and energy, i don’t like either of the eldunari theories, but i think she got the power to do so.

    • Delysium

      No?

      She is the guardian of Du Weldenvarden and got control over a MASSIVE amount of magic and energy, i don’t like either of the eldunari theories, but i think she got the power to do so.

    • Delysium

      No?

      She is the guardian of Du Weldenvarden and got control over a MASSIVE amount of magic and energy, i don’t like either of the eldunari theories, but i think she got the power to do so.

      • Anonymous

        What massive amout of energy? The forest? How would she know the rider secret of taking energy from plants?

        • DanHoover1985

          It’s not a rider secret it is an elf secret that was taught to riders when they came of age and were found to be trustworty enough to use it properly. The only Rider exlusive knowlege that Chris has revealed is that of the eldunari.

          • Anonymous

            No. Where did it say that it was an elf secret. To my knowledge, all we know is that the riders only taught the secret to riders mature enough for it

          • Anonymous

            No. Where did it say that it was an elf secret. To my knowledge, all we know is that the riders only taught the secret to riders mature enough for it

          • bigmike

            But she feels everything the forest feels. If someone was pulling energy a large area of the forest, she would know and wonder why it was happening. She would probably investigate and finally come across the answer.

          • Anonymous

            Hmmm….you may have me there lol. My only counterargument is that her consciousness moves so slowly, it would be hard to investigate anything

          • DanHoover1985

            But she was pretty darn quick to act when saphira started buring things.

          • Anonymous

            No. Where did it say that it was an elf secret. To my knowledge, all we know is that the riders only taught the secret to riders mature enough for it

        • bigmike

          the forest has ears. Orimis’s house is a tree after all. Who knows what she has heard through the grape vine…. literaly.lol

        • bigmike

          the forest has ears. Orimis’s house is a tree after all. Who knows what she has heard through the grape vine…. literaly.lol

      • Eragon Shadeslayer

        I  thought that Gilderien the Wise, Prince of House Miolandra and the wielder of the White Flame of Vandil, was the guardian. Guess I was wrong.

    • Delysium

      No?

      She is the guardian of Du Weldenvarden and got control over a MASSIVE amount of magic and energy, i don’t like either of the eldunari theories, but i think she got the power to do so.

  • Maping

    I would agree with Ben R’s theory if it didn’t screw up the series. It would make some (or a lot of) sense if there was another female dragon (Greenie gets a sex change), but without another female, it just fit. After all that fighting to restore the Empire and free the dragons, it’s all like, “Ah well, too bad. I guess the dragons are screwed. Whatever.”

    I think whatever she took, whether Eragon’s fertility, or his elf/human hybrid-ness, it will benefit her. She’s a spiteful old lady, you killed her lover after she caught him cheating. she’s not necessarily evil, but certainly working to protect number one. As for what it is, I have no idea.

  • Jeremyjamesbrown

    Firstly, taking eragon’s ability to reproduce doesn’t seem enough of a price to pay for the meona trees gift. What’s obvious is whatever she has taken eragon will live to regret his decision which makes me think it can’t be his fertility because he’s never spoken about wanting children, and does it really matter if he can never father a child? however, taking Saphiras fertility sounds more plausible.
    But I still don’t think that’s what the menoa tree took. I don’t think she ‘took’ anything at all, I personally think she ‘gave’ Eragon something that will effect his future and help make his decision to leave alegasia whether it’s something good or bad I’m not sure

  • Guest

    What happened to the site last night it was down?

  • Konungr1

    I think the answer lies in another question.  What did Saphira feel?

  • YourLiver

    Has anyone searched Linnëa on google? The third link is my own character based off her! (Name and history) As well… Banishing Winds Pack is awesome!

  • YourLiver8D

    She took… HIS LIVER. D: (My nickname is liver so it’s even more funny in that context)

    • YourLiver

      My epic nickname also comes with a catch phrase.

      ‘Your Liver loves you!’

  • Master101614

    Seriously people, “She took his fertility”?! I cannot even begin to describe how weird that theory is, and if it is the case i’m putting the book down right after for frankly being stupid as hell. Also, note this, if she took Eragon’s fertility Saphira would feel it, not Eragon. My backup for this is in  Brisingr when Glaedr howled when Orimis got chopped in half, even as Orimis screamed when Glaedr lost his leg.

    • Sarah

      Good point. That fact does throw this theory into doubt, but what other theory makes as much sense?

    • Sarah

      Actually, they both would feel it, because they share in each other’s pain. Like when Eragon had a siezure when traveling to the elves the first time, Saphira felt his pain and tried to shield him from it.

    • eebi

      Both of them would feel it, if she took his fertility. Eragon and Saphira are connected, like Oromis and Glaedr. Glaedr screamed when Oromis got chopped in half, but Oromis definitely felt the pain too, just like Oromis felt Glaedr’s pain when Glaedr lost his leg. Remember when Saphira attacked Glaedr at the Stone of Broken Eggs, and he clawed her leg? Oromis and Eragon felt their respective dragons’ pain because of the bond, but that doesn’t mean the dragons didn’t feel pain.

      • Master101614

        Good call eebi and Sarah; they would both feel it due to the link. A good alternate theory that I agree with is that Eragon bound himself in the Ancient language to do something for the tree in exchange for the brightsteel, which she hasn’t specified yet. The favor will likely be Eragon leaving forever, with a magical enforcement which makes him deathly ill to be standing on Alagaesia. This would be similar to Elva’s pain for others that she receives from Eragon’s blessing(which she never consented to), except more potent by far as it was uttered from Eragon’s own mouth of his own free will. Out of curiosity, what are you two’s ideas on Eragon becoming a shade rider? It would be a BA showdown for sure with Galbatorix, even if Eragon was essentially evil himself.

  • Oezay

    the leaving alagesia part wasnt in solembum’s predictions its was in angelas.

  • Kaity

    Loving everyone’s thoughts on this week’s Big 20! I thought I’d add mine in, since I haven’t seen anyone else post something similar yet. What I’m wondering is, what if the “Unnamed Shadow” that stalks the land in Eragon’s guide is going to be introduced to us by the Menoa Tree?

    I’m thinking that she isn’t going to end up being bad. Think about what we know about her- after one bad act, she sentenced herself to a life of tree-dom because she knew what she had done was evil. Then she spent hundreds of years nurturing and guiding the forest. To me, this does not sound like an inherently bad character.

    We also know that the Menoa Tree has a “vast mind” and is connected with hundreds of acres of living beings (plants) throughout the immense forest. If something strange and…. shadowy… was going on in or around the forest, she’d know about it. It could be something so subtle that humans and elves can’t pick up on it, but that only she can.

     Since her life is dedicated to the forest, if this Unnamed Shadow is or could be hurting her trees or the animals within Du Weldenvarden, she’s going to do whatever she can to stop it. But she’s not exactly capable of either directly investigating herself or of going on an offensive attack. Those MIGHT be the exact perfect jobs for one very curious human magician and one very ferocious dragon.

    So, what do I think she wants? I think she wants Eragon to go off and eliminate this threat to her forest, as soon as he’s all through with Galbatorix. This theory also fits in with Chris’s interview answer saying that the Menoa Tree would be important in future books.

    • Sarah

      That is a valid theory. I like it, and I believe it constitutes further thought and speculation.

    • WhiteRavensrCool

      Maybe the tree gave Eragon something. Many speak of taking away, but what if she put the key to opening the vault where RoK is? Just my theory, but there are cleverer ones on here.

  • Though I hope this isn’t the case, I think it’s a very good possibility that she took Eragon’s fertility 

  • Leon Trotsky Trout

    I am not CP.
    I am not marty mcfly.
    I do not have a magic phonebooth.
    Therefore, I do not know the answers to these questions.

    • Sarah

      You may not know, but you can guess. I mean, that’s all we’re really doing. It’s the whole point of these articles.

      • Leon Trotsky Trout

         well, with the other articles I could take educated guesses. In this case, I don’t have a clue. So that’s what I said.

    • Elfwriter

      I love you response. I mean LOVE it 😉

  • Marty N.

    30 days left!!!!! Whooo hoooo!!!!!!

    Just paid for my Pre-order of Inheritance at my local bookstore.

  • Arya’s lovechild

     There’s no great mystery, the Menoa tree discovered a small woodland squirrel living in Eragon’s belly, and decided to liberate it. It now resides in a semi-detached bungalow in Hackney, London, where it is happily married, and works as a waiter at one of Gordon Ramsey’s restaurant’s. He and his wife Millie, intend to adopt an African child, just like Brad and Angelina, due to a lack of sperm.

  • EvA

    I think when she said “go…” that was her request, for him to go, or to leave alagaesia and never return. the discomfort in is stomach may be just a coincidence.

    • Sarah

      But if it was a coincidence, why did CP mention it?

  • Laetrikiwi

    Maybe she did take his true name, which wouldnt be difficult for her because her mind is so powerful. However, I think what she will do is use it to force him to leave Alagaesia. If she didnt have his true name, she couldnt really make him leave, could she now?

    • Tim G.

      I like this. We know that Sloan felt noticeable discomfort when Eragon whispered Sloan’s true name to himself. The mysterious twinge could have been the Menoa Tree learning Eragon’s true name. This seems to be the most plausible explanation.

      To everyone who thinks that she took Eragon’s ability to reproduce, I pose this question: why would he have felt it in his GUT? If that is what she took, then shouldn’t Eragon have felt it a little lower than his gut? If anyone lost that ability it would have been Saphira, and the twinge that Eragon felt was transmitted across their link.

      • Delysium

        But then…Shouldn’t Saphira have felt it too?

        after all, she was the one being “unfurtilized”

        • Blackthornrose

          you’ve got a point. nowhere during that exchange does it say that Saphira felt anything (i just checked my copy of brisingr)….which i guess kills my theory that she did something to help saphira too. (i’m more for the ‘she gave something instead of taking something’ theory).

        • Tim G.

          If that is what happened, then, yes, she would have felt it, but remember this was from Eragon’s POV not Saphira’s, so it just means that Eragon didn’t notice that the twinge was from Saphira, not his own body.

        • Elfwriter

          come on people really?!?! There is no way she took either’s ability to reproduce, cp just would not do that. and besides, in eragons guide to alagaseia there was a purple dragon, and cp has also clearly stated there are no more hidden dragons in alagaseia. Therefore, saphira had offspring. And eragon, well it just isn’t plausible. What else isn’t plausible is that she gave them something. There are no grounds for this theory as brisingr clearly says she has/ will TAKE something.
          I thought maybe his first born but cp said it will make us go ohhh, and that doesn’t make me go ohhh.

      • Warlockza

        Yes I agree that taking his virginity, his fertility or The eldonari is a bit far fetched. What perhaps it could be is she took an aspect of his humanity… Something which changes his true name which I am sure his enemies have almost figured out. Carry this concept forward and think about the prophecy that he will never return to the lands. Perhaps he will return but as a new individual, not the old self everyone knew. Just some ramblings and my 2c.

    • Delysium

      But why do you think that She wanted so badly for Eragon to leave then..?

  • guest

    Mike, Linnëa was not young, as you have it in this article. She was old, which was essentially the crux of the story.

    • Repasorapida

      So true.

  • Dawn54

    i  think of urgal’s tale (with Nar gazvrock in wood in the third book)

  • Horsegal4ever

    I’m stumped here. 😀 I can’t wait to find out!!!

  • The Thinker

    Hey Mike, i LOVE the way you incorporate The Inheritance Almanac in to all these discussions. Way to advertise!

    • ;P I worked incredibly hard on that book, as did Mark Vaz and the team at Random House, so I want to make sure that it gets out there 🙂

    • ;P I worked incredibly hard on that book, as did Mark Vaz and the team at Random House, so I want to make sure that it gets out there 🙂

      • bigmike

        Where can I get one? I cant find one at my local wali world can I?

        • Blackthornrose

          i’ve not seen it at mine, so I’m not sure walmart carries it. I know I saw it at Borders one time, and wish i had bought it now that they closed all their stores. I bet if you look online at Amazon or Barnes and Noble, they will probably have it….or you can probably order it online, from this very website?

  • The Green dragon

    hey im about to get an android phone and i was just wondering if the podcast is available through the android market?

  • Abbiejo1999

    We’ll find out soon enough! Book 4, here we come! 8th November, people!

    • Delysium

      We can still speculate ;D

      28 days to go ffs!

    • Delysium

      We can still speculate ;D

      28 days to go ffs!

  • Qbbie

    AHHHHHHHHH! I’m missing my weekly dose of mike, Lauren, and Chris (btw u are not a hick)!! 🙁 why can’t it be November 8 instead of October 8? >:(

    • Anonymous

      i think your question is ‘why can’t it be October 8 instead of November 8?’

      • blackjak24

        He meant “Why can’t today be November 8?”  He wasn’t talking about the release date.

      • Blackthornrose

        no i think qbbie meant, why can’t it already be november 8th instead of november 8 still being about a month away. 🙂

  • Adam_hasta

    it has to be somthing that could help the foret grow or somthing. wasnt that her ondly concern

  • Adam_hasta

    it has to be somthing that could help the foret grow or somthing. wasnt that her ondly concern

  • Adam_hasta

    it has to be somthing that could help the foret grow or somthing. wasnt that her ondly concern

  • Rubydragon

    Maybe the tree planted a seed in him? It may sound far fetched.
    Or, he probably is able to communicate with other trees and convince them to resist Galbatorix in some way.

  • Vlatkovichka

    I like ”a memory” theory… maybe he forgot his love for Arya?

    • bi@

      no….he still loves arya after that incident!!!

  • Dorota

    I believe that the Menoa tree took whatever she wanted from Eragon at that moment. I think it may have something to do with his transformation at the Blood-Oath Celebration, but what as to what it is, I have absolutely no idea. To me, the idea if it being Eragon’s/Saphira’s ability to give offspring sounds a bit far-fetched, and how the Menoa tree would benefit from that, I cannot see. Whatever it is, we’ll find out about it in Inheritance! (I’m so used to calling it Book Four that I often forget that it does, in fact, have a proper title.)

    • Dorota

      “…but what as to what it is…” Being the writing enthusiast I am, even trivial mistakes like this pain me. 😀

    • Comett

      I agree.  I think that whatever she took would have to benefit her forest in some way – her old self might have taken Eragon’s fertility, but that sounds pointless and petty to a giant tree.  Saphira’s fertility could be a possibility (as dragons burn trees), but I’m not entirely sure how she could have done that without a more noticeable reaction from Saphira.

      But yeah – I don’t really know what she could have taken, myself.  The twinge Eragon felt can’t be coincidental.

      • Blackthornrose

        but saphira would have felt something like that being taken away, and nowhere during that exchange did saphira feel anything at all – even when eragon felt his twinge, it didn’t say saphira felt anything! So i highly doubt she took saphira’s fertility….also, that would kind of ruin Eragon’s Guide to Alagaesia, which starts with him writing a letter to another dragon rider….

    • blackjak24

      I think she took Saphira’s ability to reproduce because she said fires must be extinguished or something like that, and she was talking about how dragons can breathe fire.  I think she wanted the dragons to die out so that there wasn’t any risk of them burning the trees.

  • White Catle

    Eragon is mentioned to be something like a half-elf, and those are very rare, so I think the Menoa Tree took a DNA strand from Eragon because she is trying to gather up a genetic code-book of all of the races of Alageasia(yes, including the Grey Folk, Ra’zac, and Lethrblaka)to make sure that when that unknown catastrophe described in Heslant’s book happens, none of the races will COMPLETELY die out. Does anyone think this is far-fetched?

    • Laetrikiwi

      Sounds a bit like “Amazonia” by James Rollins…

    • Anonymous

      That sounds like Futurama, Wild Green Yonder.

  • pearce

    did u know that thorn cant think for him self anymore he was driven mad by galbys dark magic. says so in eragons guide to alagasia 

  • gandaga

    what if galbatorix’s is the son of the elf that cheated on linnea and she took away any hesitation that eragon might have of saving him 

    • Oshjosh93

      Galbatorix is human.  That’s one of the reasons the elves were reluctant to allow the Varden access to Saphira’s egg way back in the first book.  They didn’t want another human that could turn into another Galbatorix – humans are too corruptible.

    • Oshjosh93

      Galbatorix is human.  That’s one of the reasons the elves were reluctant to allow the Varden access to Saphira’s egg way back in the first book.  They didn’t want another human that could turn into another Galbatorix – humans are too corruptible.

    • Oshjosh93

      Galbatorix is human.  That’s one of the reasons the elves were reluctant to allow the Varden access to Saphira’s egg way back in the first book.  They didn’t want another human that could turn into another Galbatorix – humans are too corruptible.

  • Lcollins7

    I don’t really believe in the reproduction theory, but if the Menoa tree did take away Eragon’s ability to have children, when he died, he would leave Alageasia forever, with no heirs.

    • bi@

      hmmm…..u have a point…….

    • YourLiver

      Enemies of the Heir, BEWAAAARE!

      • bigmike

        Poor Ginny. She had no clue. : (

  • yeaboy

    i don’t see why this post doesn’t consider the event later on in brisingr when eragon is drinking the faelnirv oromis gave to him. he notices that a lot more of it is gone than he intended. i think that the menoa tree made so out of whatever food or drink eragon uses, a portion of the energy from it is given to the tree. if not that exactly, something to do with energy that would be eragon’s being involuntarily donated to the tree and hence the forest

    • Blackjak24

      That is a really good idea and its one of the more plausible ideas i’ve heard.  Nice thinking!

    • Blackthornrose

      i hadn’t thought of that, but i did always wonder what had happened to the faelnirv, since i remember he only took a few small sips before then, and now there is suddenly less in there….

  • Thetruthhurts

    Solembum said nothing about Eragon leaving forever (“which was another part of Solembum’s prediction.”) That was Angela’s prediction. Solembum said essentially “get brightsteel from the Menoa tree, and go think about the ROK and VOS” 

    • Thetruthhurts

      by the way I’m a different Thetruthhurts than what the profile thingy says, this is my first post ever.

      • bi@

        YAA…..theres  a mistake!! ur right!

  • Anonymous

    I don’t think she took anything from Eragon. She asks: ‘will you give me what I want in return?’ maybe this is ridding the land of Galbatorix and the feeling in Eragon’s lower stomach is the nervousness, excitement of seeing the ore (his new weapon which will kill Galbatorix) rise to the surface of the soil.

  • T_ _ _ _ _ J _ _ _ _

    She took his immortality would be my guess.  Destroying Galbatorix would leave one more dragon rider alive – the one who killed him.  The feeling in his stomach?  The ache of mortality that he was going to outlive for a while being a dragon rider.

    • Anne O’Brien

      But then how would Eragon’s love for Arya work out? She would be even more hesitant to invest in him emotionally if she knew he would age and die.

      • Blackthornrose

        ah, but if she did takes his immortality, right now he doesn’t know that, and neither would arya….they wouldn’t know until he starts aging…

  • Blackeye

    I’ve got 2 possible theories:
    1. The Menoa Tree took Saphira’s Eldunari. The twinge that Eragon felt being just a side effect of his connection to Saphira.
    2.  Maybe-and this is a longshot-she impregnated Saphira, not only with a dragon offspring, but also with a bit of her own DNA, creating a Dragon/Tree Hybrid (hence Greenie). Again the twing  Eragon felt being a mere side-effect.
    And here a third scenario comes to mind:
    3.  The Menoa tree took a part of Saphira’s DNA, and in the months that followed gave birth (the tree gave birth, not Saphira) to-again-a Dragon/Tree Hybrid (again hence Greenie). Once more the twinge Eragon felt being a mere side effect.

    • Rootbeer1999

      Just want to point out that the green dragon is obviously very old, because his scales are crinkled like Glaedr’s.  Maybe I didn’t watch the discussions enough, but I’m honestly suprised more people aren’t taking that into account with their theories.

      • Crinkled scales don’t have to mean he’s old. In fact I think it just emphasizes his young age. It reminds me of a newborn bird, how their feathers are sort of ruffled after hatching. And his spikes are much smaller than Saphira’s and Thorns, and unlike Glaedr’s they don’t look like they’re dulled, just new.

    • Hate to break it to you, but Greenie’s already an egg waiting in Galby’s castle.

      So no.

    • Hate to break it to you, but Greenie’s already an egg waiting in Galby’s castle.

      So no.

    • bi@

      ummm…..srsly!! isnt this too far fetched!! :///

    • Blackthornrose

      i think a lot of these theories involving Saphira are forgetting a major thing: nowhere during that whole thing did saphira ever feel anything!! it was only eragon who felt the twinge, and i’m pretty sure C.P. would have mentioned if Saphira felt something!

  • hoke

    It took Eragon’s inflamed appendix 😛

    • Imagine the repercussions if she hadn’t done this:

      *fighting Galby sword to sword*

      E: “I’m gonna- ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!” *cough sputter fall down holding stomach*

      G: “WTF, okay fine.” *stab*

  • Shalom Chung

    The menoa tree may have made Saphira pregnant.  Given there are only 3 male dragons in existence, one in an egg, one twisted into serving an evil king and one a slave, it is unlikely that the dragon race would survive, even if Saphira married Greenie.  An extra dragon could choose thorn, for example, and continue the dragon race.

    • Why would an ancient tree-elf-thing have living dragon sperm just sitting around?

      If anything, she was taking something rather than giving it, if the twinge means anything.

      • The Green dragon

        your a party pooper

        • Blackthornrose

          and i’ll be a further ‘party pooper’ by once again stating that saphira would have felt it if something had been done to her by the menoa tree, and nowhere during that entire exchange did she ever feel anything. i’m pretty sure C.P. would have put it in the book if Saphira had felt something being done to her.

  • AnnaG

    I’m just a little incredilous here. As we all know, Paolini isn’t a straight-forward guy. Think about it. Just because he says Eragon feels a sensation in his lower abdomen does not in any way rule fertility as the sacrifice to the Menoa tree. If something drastic like knowing you just made a huge sacrifice blindly happened, would you not feel that sense of dread in your “lower abdomen”? That feeling of your heart dropping? Come on guys. Think outside the box on this one. Christopher isn’t playing on fertility here. And the point was made earlier about Eragon ever finding out about this “fertility sacrifice”. It’s not logical or really even possible for him to learn he can’t have children in a timely manner. What do you think will happen- Eragon and Arya are going to get together and all of the sudden start thinking about kids?! THIS IS ARYA WE ARE TALKING ABOUT GUYS. She’d be the last one I’d expect to have kids. So let’s get a little more creative here. Personally, I feel like Paolini was alluding to a sense that whatever she is taking (or has already taken) will not be good for Eragon..that sense of doom. But I could be wrong. I just was expecting some varied theories.

  • Yeah

    I kind of feel bad about poking a hole in this theory but the Menoa tree couldn’t have taken Eragon’s ability to have children since Arya’s had Eragons balls ever since the first book. 

  • Yeah

    I kind of feel bad about poking a hole in this theory but the Menoa tree couldn’t have taken Eragon’s ability to have children since Arya’s had Eragons balls ever since the first book. 

  • Yeah

    I kind of feel bad about poking a hole in this theory but the Menoa tree couldn’t have taken Eragon’s ability to have children since Arya’s had Eragons balls ever since the first book. 

  • Yeah

    I kind of feel bad about poking a hole in this theory but the Menoa tree couldn’t have taken Eragon’s ability to have children since Arya’s had Eragons balls ever since the first book. 

    • bigmike

      Yeah. Didnt it even mention the little necklace around her neck somewhere in Eldest?

  • Chelsea S

    I find it interesting that C.P described Eragon’s pain as coming from his “lower belly”. If C.P wanted to foreshadow that the tree made Eragon infertile, a better phrase to describe ‘that’ area would have been “upper torso” instead. The “lower belly”, in my mind, is around the area of your navel,  a little above the groin, and consisting of the intestines and/or the ovaries. However I don’t believe that the tree took Saphira’s fertility either, or that Eragon was feeling that sensation through his mental link. I believe Saphira would have mentioned to Eragon that she had felt a strange sensation in her lower abdomen. In my own opinion, I believe the tree took either Eragon’s blood or cells (the blood oath ceremony could have have changed his chemical make-up and the Menoa tree took a sample for reasons best known to herself).  Also, how would Eragon ever find out if he himself, or Saphira, were infertile unless they flew back and asked her. Since the war is going into the heart of the Empire, Eragon doesn’t have time to go back to Ellesmera and chat with the tree. So, the tree must have taken something that would easy enough to discover without going back and asking her about it.

  • Chelsea S

    I find it interesting that C.P described Eragon’s pain as coming from his “lower belly”. If C.P wanted to foreshadow that the tree made Eragon infertile, a better phrase to describe ‘that’ area would have been “upper torso” instead. The “lower belly”, in my mind, is around the area of your navel,  a little above the groin, and consisting of the intestines and/or the ovaries. However I don’t believe that the tree took Saphira’s fertility either, or that Eragon was feeling that sensation through his mental link. I believe Saphira would have mentioned to Eragon that she had felt a strange sensation in her lower abdomen. In my own opinion, I believe the tree took either Eragon’s blood or cells (the blood oath ceremony could have have changed his chemical make-up and the Menoa tree took a sample for reasons best known to herself).  Also, how would Eragon ever find out if he himself, or Saphira, were infertile unless they flew back and asked her. Since the war is going into the heart of the Empire, Eragon doesn’t have time to go back to Ellesmera and chat with the tree. So, the tree must have taken something that would easy enough to discover without going back and asking her about it.

  • Chelsea S

    I find it interesting that C.P described Eragon’s pain as coming from his “lower belly”. If C.P wanted to foreshadow that the tree made Eragon infertile, a better phrase to describe ‘that’ area would have been “upper torso” instead. The “lower belly”, in my mind, is around the area of your navel,  a little above the groin, and consisting of the intestines and/or the ovaries. However I don’t believe that the tree took Saphira’s fertility either, or that Eragon was feeling that sensation through his mental link. I believe Saphira would have mentioned to Eragon that she had felt a strange sensation in her lower abdomen. In my own opinion, I believe the tree took either Eragon’s blood or cells (the blood oath ceremony could have have changed his chemical make-up and the Menoa tree took a sample for reasons best known to herself).  Also, how would Eragon ever find out if he himself, or Saphira, were infertile unless they flew back and asked her. Since the war is going into the heart of the Empire, Eragon doesn’t have time to go back to Ellesmera and chat with the tree. So, the tree must have taken something that would easy enough to discover without going back and asking her about it.

  • Chelsea S

    I find it interesting that C.P described Eragon’s pain as coming from his “lower belly”. If C.P wanted to foreshadow that the tree made Eragon infertile, a better phrase to describe ‘that’ area would have been “upper torso” instead. The “lower belly”, in my mind, is around the area of your navel,  a little above the groin, and consisting of the intestines and/or the ovaries. However I don’t believe that the tree took Saphira’s fertility either, or that Eragon was feeling that sensation through his mental link. I believe Saphira would have mentioned to Eragon that she had felt a strange sensation in her lower abdomen. In my own opinion, I believe the tree took either Eragon’s blood or cells (the blood oath ceremony could have have changed his chemical make-up and the Menoa tree took a sample for reasons best known to herself).  Also, how would Eragon ever find out if he himself, or Saphira, were infertile unless they flew back and asked her. Since the war is going into the heart of the Empire, Eragon doesn’t have time to go back to Ellesmera and chat with the tree. So, the tree must have taken something that would easy enough to discover without going back and asking her about it.

  • derangedMUFFINS

    Who says she actually TOOK anything?
    She wanted something, so maybe she gave Eragon more fertility so he would have offspring that would combine the human race with the elves to bring more peace or something weird like that. Maybe she did something to him that as a byproduct will eventually effect her or her people or forest positively. With exchanging wants for a deal it doesn’t always have to be taking something, but maybe having the other do or create something that will benefit you.

    • Becky L

      right, i never felt like she already took something while reading the section

  • HP+IC=WOW

    ok i have to weigh in here. everyone keeps saying that the menoa tree took his sperm, but he felt a twinge in his lower belly not his groin. how on earth would that not make sense.  

  • HP+IC=WOW

    ok i have to weigh in here. everyone keeps saying that the menoa tree took his sperm, but he felt a twinge in his lower belly not his groin. how on earth would that not make sense.  

  • HP+IC=WOW

    ok i have to weigh in here. everyone keeps saying that the menoa tree took his sperm, but he felt a twinge in his lower belly not his groin. how on earth would that not make sense.  

  • Have you guys recorded the podcast yet? Because I just sent in an email and I don’t know if it’s too late. If it’s getting difficult I think you should just change the official date for the podcast to Saturday or Sunday. That would still leave a few days before Inheritance releases.

  • Remember how Garzhvog told Eragon the story of Maghara while they ran to the Beors? Some people thought it might be similar to that. She just claimed something in his future. Whatever she did it sounds pretty similar to the story.

  • MW

    I don’t think Linnea was young when she was involved with the elf dude.

    • It was a human dude =)

      • The Green dragon

        no it was an elf

        • You sure? I could’ve sworn it was a human.

          • The Green dragon

            Positive

  • Arya<3

    I’m pretty sure that C.P hinted that the menoa tree might be of use in his future books.. he said something in an interview like that, though not directly

  • Anonymous

    AHHH! So many good points! I don’t know what to believe, I guess I’ll just have to wait 31 more days (so excited :D)

  • Nicole C.

    If the book describes, “the fullness of life” referring to love and family I think the other part of family is what she really wants: the joy of motherhood. I think she took some (ahem) seed from Eragon so she can have a child. Of course there are lots of ways this could happen, in the form of a baby, sapling or some other entity…who knows? Lots of possibilities. 

  • The Green dragon

    um not that i care but if the podcast is not coming out today then when do you think it will be ready?

  • Anonymous

    One thing I don’t understand is why the Menoa tree is so powerful. I mean, she’s just one elf, how could she have the power to kill a dragon and rider? It seems very strange to me.

  • Anonymous

    One thing I don’t understand is why the Menoa tree is so powerful. I mean, she’s just one elf, how could she have the power to kill a dragon and rider? It seems very strange to me.

  • Anonymous

    One thing I don’t understand is why the Menoa tree is so powerful. I mean, she’s just one elf, how could she have the power to kill a dragon and rider? It seems very strange to me.

  • Anonymous

    One thing I don’t understand is why the Menoa tree is so powerful. I mean, she’s just one elf, how could she have the power to kill a dragon and rider? It seems very strange to me.

  • Irock13198

    Bob how long would it take you to edit a 70min podcast?

    • Longer than you think. It takes around one hour to edit fifteen minutes. The episodes are about twenty minutes longer pre-editing than they are as a finished product.

      • Coasterking

        so when can we expect the next podcast?
         

        • When they get a chance to upload.

          • The Green dragon

            thank you captain obvious

          • You’re welcome Lieutenant Sarcasm.

          • The Green dragon

            thank you captain obvious

      • Irock13198

        wow thats allot of time!

      • Irock13198

        wow thats allot of time!

    • Longer than you think. It takes around one hour to edit fifteen minutes. The episodes are about twenty minutes longer pre-editing than they are as a finished product.

  • blue2282

    The tree took his kidney

    • Feisty-fitz

      Sorry to be the one to tell you, but you’re kidneys are not in your lower abdomen.

      • blue2282

        Then his gall bladder.

        • Corey

          and how is that related to anything in the story?

  • the smart one

    “compel Eragon to leave Alagaësia forever, which was another
    part of Solembum’s prediction”
    it was Angela, not Solembum, who foretold that Eragon would leave Alagaesia.  Solembum only mentioned the Menoa tree and the vault of souls

  • Valinorrob

    I think it was his “crush” on Arya the thing that the Menoa tree took since Linea might have wanted to experience that again. That’s my 2 cents and first comment ever

    • hoke

      not a bad first comment. mine was something totally stupid about a month ago

  • Peter

    I think Eragon was really really hungry at the time. I mean, he is a vegetarian after he came to Ellesmera and in front of him is a HUGE tree… hmm. That was’nt very hard to figure out 😉

  • How about I settle this debate…. Only Paolini knows what the Menoa tree did. End of story.

    • There’s no fun in your version!

      • Add that to THE LIST “Hey Chris what exactily did the Menoa tree take from Eragon?”

        And in his author-ship wisdom, if he responds “No comment” It’s a safe bet that it will be brought up in INHERITANCE!! Genius!

        Besides, I like busting children’s balloons. But if it must be said, if it is true that the Menoa tree took some genetic swimmers or gave a magical vesictomy to Eragon’s dingle-berries, I’ll die laughing. Make no mistake of that. And Mike, Bob and Chris will cringe (along with every male reader) while reading.

        • Guest

          I wasn’t about to until you said that. Instead of taking something, what if it really put something in him? Maybe to control him later on, or maybe he was unpotent before, then restored.

          • it’s “impotence” not “unpotent”. something that is “unpotent” means that it’s not a strong smell/favor.

            That could be true as well. Through out the reading we never hear of Eragon having an erection or “tightness in his neither regions”. If he had strong desire for Arya, and desire goes with sexual feelings. You would think he would have on more than one occassion sported an erection or have some naughty dreams of that sexy elf with tight leather. Plus he’s a teen for God’s sake! He has hormones blazing everywhere! Two or three uncalled for “tightness in the neither regions” is normal as much as it is embarrassing!

            We won’t know for sure if this is the case, since after leaving the Tree and Du Weldenvarden, he went straight to battle. Not much time for unsightly erections springing.

          • it’s “impotence” not “unpotent”. something that is “unpotent” means that it’s not a strong smell/favor.

            That could be true as well. Through out the reading we never hear of Eragon having an erection or “tightness in his neither regions”. If he had strong desire for Arya, and desire goes with sexual feelings. You would think he would have on more than one occassion sported an erection or have some naughty dreams of that sexy elf with tight leather. Plus he’s a teen for God’s sake! He has hormones blazing everywhere! Two or three uncalled for “tightness in the neither regions” is normal as much as it is embarrassing!

            We won’t know for sure if this is the case, since after leaving the Tree and Du Weldenvarden, he went straight to battle. Not much time for unsightly erections springing.

          • Corey

            its flavor not favor
            ha take your own medicine
            this comment is completely pointless no offense

          • Corey

            its flavor not favor
            ha take your own medicine
            this comment is completely pointless no offense

        • “magical vasectomy to Eragon’s dingle-berries”

          You are a genius.

        • “magical vasectomy to Eragon’s dingle-berries”

          You are a genius.

        • “magical vasectomy to Eragon’s dingle-berries”

          You are a genius.

  • I firmly believe that whatever it turns out to be that the Menoa tree wanted from Eragon, she has already taken it and that she did so when he felt the sensation in his lower abdomen. In my opinion the Menoa Tree took
    Eragon’s sperm in order to have children. She was really interested in
    his indiviuality after his change. Paolini has said that elven children
    will play a role in book 4. I think the Menoa tree wants to have influence in the outcome of the war and elven children or close to elven children may be the only way she could physically influence the war. She does not strike me as the type of being that wants to leave the outcome up to others. Paolini says that Eragon feels the sensation in the lower abdomen, this is not specific and would not rule out where he would feel the sensation. There is
    also the story that the urgal cheiftan tells about the urgal woman who
    agreed to give a goddess anything she wanted in exchange for a pretty
    face. The urgal goddess ends up taking her oldest son. Foreshadowing? I
    think so. There are many others who thought this might have happened. Expand?

    • blue2282

      But its the lower abdomen not the Gonads.
      Therefore she couldn’t take his sperm.

      • Generally a sensation in that area pervades the surrounding area. It could have been written in little detail on purpose, especially if Paolini didnt want to make it excessively obvious.

      • hoke

        have you been hit in the gonads? it hurts up in the stomach… really bad

  • Anonymous

    I think the twinge Eragon felt was simply a reaction to him swearing an oath to the Menoa tree in the ancient language. Or maybe he just got a “gut” feeling! Ahah

    • Devin

      He’s sworn oaths in the Ancient Language plenty of times and has never felt a “twinge” from doing it.

      • 557

        True, but he has never really been forced to swear an oath in the AL before so it could have just been a reaction to it.

        • Feisty-fitz

          Yes he has. He had to swear that he wouldn’t reveal the existence of Oromis and Glaedr to the outside world.

      • Corey

        hey everyone maybe he was just hungry
        jk

  • Anonymous

    I agree with Ben R’s theory above.  The tree was ticked off that she was damaged and Saphira was the culprit.  So as payment, she took away Saphira’s fertility and Eragon felt the twinge through his link to Saphira.  And since Saphira is the last female dragon, being infertile would force her to eventually leave Alagaesia forever with Eragon tagging along.

    • Anonymous

      Why would being infertile force her to leave forever?

      • Devin

        To go look for other dragons, or more accurately other female dragons to repopulate the species.

    • Jalong410

      What about Eragons guide. There is a new rider in that story so it can’t be that one

  • guest

    i think it will take brisingr because he took th ebright steel

    • Anonymous

      What use does a tree have for a sword?

    • Corey

      why would he feel that in his stomach?

  • Vannet

    I still think she took saphira’s eldunardi and thats why eragon felt a “twinge” in his body

    • Anonymous

      I think Saphira would have realized if something as important as her Eldunari was missing.

      • blue2282

        If that would be the case then saphira would have had a twinge in her upper abdomen

  • Fairth

    I think that it’s somehow tied to his ability to father a child.  Be it removing it completely, or taking part of it in order to have her own child.  That said, what I really want is for something completely unexpected to have been taken from him.

    • greenie

      Like a pair of his favorite socks?

  • Melissa Lauer5

    I thought it was Angela’s prophesy that told Eragon he would leave Alagesia forever…

    • Coasterking

      it was

      • Melissa Lauer5

        Above it said it was Solembum’s prophesy.

        • Coasterking

          i know i was agreeing with you

          • Melissa Lauer5

            Oh, well, thanks then.

  • Coasterking

     I think she wanted to be left anlone

  • Wab1221

    Maybe the dragons gave Eragon an Eldunari during his transformation at the Blood-Oath Celebration and that is what the Menoa Tree took

    • Anonymous

      hmm well from what we know from what Saphira said is that she is and was aware of her Eldunari. I think eragon would feel it if there was a new, big stone/gem in his stomach. And the Blood oath didn’t turn Eragon into a half-dragon, so why would he get one?

      • Svit-kona

        Why couldnt Eragon have an Eldunari after his encounter with the dragon at the Blood-oath Celebration? Its not like eragon is a complete master of his new body and Im not sure but I dont think even Oromis nor Glaedr fully understood the limits of his transformation. Plus the Menoa tree knows of no other creature like Eragon. I believe its possible but on the other hand I find it a little confusing that Saphira didnt notice this “slight twinge” or just didnt let on to it.

        Meh 1 more month and most will be reveiled!

        • eebi

          Eragon moat likely doesn’t have an Eldunari because the dragons simply sped up the process that he would have gone through anyway thanks to his bond with Saphira. They might have given him some extra speed and strength, but he’s always described as similar to the elves, not the dragons.

  • Michaelfan13

    I think it has something to do with him leaving alageasia forever, as of what the menoa tree has to do with that im not sure.

  • It’s probably best to assume that the remainder of our Big Twenty articles and podcasts will be posted rather spontaneously, as the next four weeks will be tremendously busy for both me and the community and I cannot commit to having them up on the same day each week. Especially the podcasts, as it’s a challenge to arrange those around guests.

    • Cory Knoll

      And the interview? *BIG HOPEFUL GRIN*

      • Probably soon

        • Ajc2009

          Are we even sure she took something or maybe gave something cause when she moves away from him you would think he could see what is missing but what if she put some kind of seed in him hmmm

          • Delysium

            I like that idea..

    • Coasterking

      will the podcast still be out today?
       

    • Will the Big Twenty articles and the Book Club podcasts still be wrapped up by the time Inheritance comes around? I’m really looking forward to the final podcast, but I want to hear that before I start reading, to finally get it all out of the way.