“The Inheritance Cycle Book Club, Episode Six” Has Officially Arrived! Listen Now!

The Inheritance Cycle Book Club is a podcast-styled read-through of Eragon, Eldest, and Brisingr aimed at refreshing fans and entertaining new readers as we venture toward the release of Inheritance. Each of the twenty episodes will discuss set portions of the books, in order, and will tackle the events of each reading, theories arising from the reading, and more. Join us for our adventure through the series!

Episode six of Shurtugal.com’s Inheritance Cycle Book Club Podcast has finally arrived! Our sixth episode tackles the first set of chapters from Eldest, discussing the important events of this week’s set of reading — and trust us, there’s a lot of them! Before the show officially begins, Mike and Lauren find themselves lost in yet another tangent… this week, it’s Doctor Who! Join us as we discuss Ajihad’s death, Murtagh and the Twins’ disappearance/supposed death, Nasuada as the new leader of the Varden, Eragon’s adoption into the dwarven clans, the Varden moving to Surda, and the beginning of their journey to Ellesmera! Plus we tackle some of the hottest theories related to this section in our spoiler section at the end of the podcast. Be sure to read along as we read through all three books over the next twenty weeks!

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Brief Outline for “Shurtugal.com Presents: The Inheritance Cycle Book Club, Episode Six”:

  • Introduction! Your hosts are Mike Macauley (Shur’tugal, Lytherus, The Inheritance Almanac), Lauren Zurchin (Lytherus.com), and Chris Addison (Shurtugal.com)
  • A bit of some insider advertising never hurts: Lytherus.com
  • This week’s tangent: Lauren and Mike visit the land of Doctor Who while Chris sulks in boredom
  • We jump into the book, discussing this section’s key events, including: Ajihad’s death, Murtagh and the Twins’ disappearance/supposed death, Nasuada as the new leader of the Varden, Eragon’s adoption into the dwarven clans, the Varden moving to Surda, and the beginning of their journey to Ellesmera
  • Hosts discuss their favorite parts of this week’s reading!
  • Hosts discuss some observations from this reading — facts to keep in mind going forward
  • We reveal this week’s “sweepstakes word”… you’ll have to listen to hear it!
  • We will be giving away signed books (and possibly more) next episode!
  • We want your feedback!
  • The spoiler-free portion of the show ends with a spoiler warning as we begin to discuss our spoiler-ridden theories!
  • End of episode six!

Next Episode’s Reading: Read “Az Sweldn rak Anhûin” through “His Enemy’s Face”, stop when you hit “Arrow to the Heart”!

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  • Who drew the new backround?

  • Who drew the new backround?

  • Heather

    In Eldest the Orik says that ” When a dwarf dies we believe he must be sealed in stone or he will never join his ancestors..” Wouldn’t it be fathomable that the rock of Kuthian is a dwalf’s tomb? Ever since I read the books that’s what I always had assumed it was.

  • Jordantrogers

    I also hate her she takes advantage of eragon in Brisingr.

  • willpower

    I dont dislike Nasuada but i dont like her either. mostly beacause of some of the bad decisions she makes, but i like some of her decicions such as moving the Varden to Surda.

  • CraigW

    I would just like to thank you for the series so far, i have tried other book podcasts after listening to yours and yours is by far the best, the thought,effort and construction that you have put into it stands out a mile compared to the rest.
    I am very much looking forward to the future episodes and wish you all the best.

  • Mackielove

    I personally don’t like Nasuada.

    For me it is not even so much the arrogance or pompous attitude as it is her actions. I can understand the whipping incident that would be a tough spot, but beside that so many of her decisions seem very manipulative. From the very start when she acts one way in front of the council and then changes as soon as they leave, I got the vibe that she’s looking out for number one and kidding herself that it’s all for the varden.

    I can’t list every example in the books where I had these thoughts , but a couple that stood out to me were when Eragon offers to remove the curse from Elva, and Nasuda becomes slightley frantic trying to convince her (and getting Eragon to try convince her) to take one for the team, and live her life in constant torment.

    Another incident that bothered me was the gift to Katrina at there wedding. I would have been fine if she just said it was a gift, and that she hoped they would enjoy it, but she basically said she said it was worth it to “buy” Roran’s loyalty.

    I know a lot of people love her, but to me she seems a little to manipulative and self-serving.

  • Sara Francis

    about Arya’s emotional staeor whatever your refering to, she just put up with a ton of crap! her two ‘best friends’ died, she was captured and tortured and then spent a couple weeks in a poisioned induced coma. How would you be faring emotionaly?

  • Meggtopia

    I disagree with your hatred of Nasuada.

    Of course Roran did the right thing in saving lives, even if he had to disobey and order, but as so  many other people have pointed out, you have to keep order in a military or else the whole thing falls apart. When Roran decided to disobey his order, he knew full well that he would be punished for his actions, and Nasuada knew that if she didn’t want some people in the Varden to think that she did special favors for certain someones just because they are cousins of certain Riders she had to punish Roran in some way. She realizes that Roran’s decision was the smart one–that’s why she gave him a commanding position right after his punishment–but whether or not Roran’s plan worked out does not change the fact that he disobeyed a direct order. Nasuada’s move was purely political, and I give her kudos for not letting her personal feelings get in the way of her duty as the leader of “the free world,” (as Mike, I think, put it).

    I agree with the statements that Eragon is equally tied down to the Varden, the dwarves and the elves, so his swearing fealty to Nasuada isn’t any worse than any of the other pledges he made and shouldn’t be a basis for discord. Personally, I love the fact that he is Nasuada’s vassal and also her friend. I think the three of them–Eragon, Saphira, and Nasuada–have a nice little friendship going on besides all the politics. And while Nasuada uses her power over Eragon a little, I think they have more of a working relationship.

    About Nasuada being pompous–I can see why some would think that (especially with her dealings with Orrin). But you have to consider the fact that she, as a young woman, the daughter of Ajihad no less, and as one of the, if not the, major organizors of the resistance movement, she has a lot to live up to and a lot of pressure to be this great, imposing figure. She has to solve all of the Varden’s day to day problems, figure out a way to beat a seemingly all powerful and invincible oponent, deal with the insuffurable politics  of the Council, elves and dwarves, and make it look like everything is just fine so that her people don’t lose hope. Nasuada’s not perfect, and maybe she is a little uppity at times, but I like that about her. So often woman get portrayed as being weak or sweet or beautiful or striking or fierce in some distinctly feminine way and their flaws are never really fleshed out or mentioned at all. It’s very rare to see a woman being portrayed on the same playing field as a man in respects to making decisions and being strong and a good, wise leader who has to make tough decisions which may not always be popular.

    Nasuada is my co-favortie character (co with Murtaugh). I love who she is.

  • Caleb Palmer

    I think that Nasuada is a very complicated character, just for the shear reason of we don’t know her background. We have no idea how structured her upbringing was, so we can’t honestly know some of the thoughts about her decisions. I, for one, don’t like that she whipped Roran in Brinsingr, but I also think about what I would’ve done. Shown him mercy cause he saved people? Cause he’s Eragon’s cousin? Eh, maybe, but what message does that send to the Varden? If you’re important you can get away with it? She did strip Roran’s commander of his duties for being an idiot, so there was some punishment to his part. Mike, I can see why you and Chris hate her, and I don’t necessarily like her, but I won’t go so far as to hate her. I know that your opinion is your own, so I just thought I would throw mine out there with some reasoning as to why and why not. 

  • Caleb Palmer

    I think that Nasuada is a very complicated character, just for the shear reason of we don’t know her background. We have no idea how structured her upbringing was, so we can’t honestly know some of the thoughts about her decisions. I, for one, don’t like that she whipped Roran in Brinsingr, but I also think about what I would’ve done. Shown him mercy cause he saved people? Cause he’s Eragon’s cousin? Eh, maybe, but what message does that send to the Varden? If you’re important you can get away with it? She did strip Roran’s commander of his duties for being an idiot, so there was some punishment to his part. Mike, I can see why you and Chris hate her, and I don’t necessarily like her, but I won’t go so far as to hate her. I know that your opinion is your own, so I just thought I would throw mine out there with some reasoning as to why and why not. 

  • Caleb Palmer

    I think that Nasuada is a very complicated character, just for the shear reason of we don’t know her background. We have no idea how structured her upbringing was, so we can’t honestly know some of the thoughts about her decisions. I, for one, don’t like that she whipped Roran in Brinsingr, but I also think about what I would’ve done. Shown him mercy cause he saved people? Cause he’s Eragon’s cousin? Eh, maybe, but what message does that send to the Varden? If you’re important you can get away with it? She did strip Roran’s commander of his duties for being an idiot, so there was some punishment to his part. Mike, I can see why you and Chris hate her, and I don’t necessarily like her, but I won’t go so far as to hate her. I know that your opinion is your own, so I just thought I would throw mine out there with some reasoning as to why and why not. 

  • I made another WW2 Propaganda Poster, This Time Featuring Murtagh and Thorn

  • Murtagon

    I figure someone has already posted this by now, but you do start seeing Nasuada’s point of view in Eldest. It happens after Ooromis informs Eragon that he screwed up Elva’s blessing. The next chapter or so are of Nasuada and she goes and visits Elva. 

  • Cpk947

    So when I went to iTunes, I couldn’t find this episode. Only episodes 1 2 3 4 and 6. And when I came here to listen to episode 5, it plays episode 1… What’s up with that?? I need help 🙁

  • Du Skulblaka Ebrithil

    Not trying to be annoying or re-hash things, but what is the difference between Eragon swearing fealty to Nasuada vs. Eragon being adopted into Durgrimst Ingeitum? Both come with some pretty large responsibilities and risks. Such as in Brisingr, Eragon having to go back to Farthen Dur to witness the election of a new dwarven king. Just trying to point out that Nasuada’s fealty isn’t that bad because Eragon ties himself down to our forces as well.

    • Caleb Palmer

      I agree that he needed too or else Islanzadi would’ve used his training to her advantage to press him, but Eragon didn’t HAVE to go see the election of the dwarf king, Nasuada sent him, and he wanted to go himself, to make sure that they elected a King that was sympathetic to the Varden so that they wouldn’t lose the support from the Dwarves. All powers have an equal pull on him, Elves due to the training, Nasuada with fealty, Orik with the clan, and the dragons due to the Riders and the Blood-Oath Celebration healing.

  • Du Skulblaka Ebrithil

    I think it would make the most sense for you to discuss Eragon’s perspective in one chunk and Roran’s in another. I don’t mind when you guys jump around on topics (I’d probably do the same,  lol), but discussing one perspective at a time seem to make sense.

  • JJ

    I love the series and the fact i discovered it back in middle school. I’m gonna be a junior in college and I’m still hooked. I sat down and finished Brisingr the same day i bought it, hahaha. Thank you guys for going through the books again. It really interesting and recapping everything before book four is amazing. I love a good fantasy series and you guys are doing awesome with these episodes on one such a series.

    • Du Skulblaka Ebrithil

      Wow! That’s exactly what happened with me! I discovered the series in junior high (aka middle school) and now I’m going to be a junior in college! Too cool! 😀 And I’m lovin’ the podcasts as well! 😀

  • Dear Lauren from Lytherus.com,
    I was listening to podcast #5, and I liked the idea of seeing some sort of picture of Arya riding Saphira to save poor Eragon. So, in tune with that, I have made a teaser picture until I’m finished the complete version.

    http://original-botticella.deviantart.com/art/Saphira-and-Arya-TEASER-251542619

  • Dear Lauren from Lytherus.com,
    I was listening to podcast #5, and I liked the idea of seeing some sort of picture of Arya riding Saphira to save poor Eragon. So, in tune with that, I have made a teaser picture until I’m finished the complete version.

    http://original-botticella.deviantart.com/art/Saphira-and-Arya-TEASER-251542619

  • Dear Lauren from Lytherus.com,
    I was listening to podcast #5, and I liked the idea of seeing some sort of picture of Arya riding Saphira to save poor Eragon. So, in tune with that, I have made a teaser picture until I’m finished the complete version.

    http://original-botticella.deviantart.com/art/Saphira-and-Arya-TEASER-251542619

    • Anonymous

       wow that looks really good, its gonna be amazing when its done

  • Alonso

    Hey guys, do you know where I can watch Dr. Who in English?

    • Caleb Palmer

      ……..uh……it’s British, so it IS in English?……

      • Anonymous

        I meant to ask if you know of a website where I can watch it.

  • SecretCountess

    I can’t find the podcast on iTunes. Has been uploaded?

  • Hey all! Here are some examples of propaganda posters along the lines of what we were talking about (well, what I was talking about, I’m just assuming Mike too). I have NO idea how these are made, but they are a-mazing. The wonder woman one blows my mind!Eragon-ize these 🙂

    http://www.geeksaresexy.net/2011/08/01/social-media-propaganda-posters-pics/twitter-7/
    http://macguffinandpuffin.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/dalek_war_low1.jpg
    http://macguffinandpuffin.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/paul-sizer.jpg
    http://www.badassdigest.com/2011/07/18/ass-kicking-olly-moss-captain-america-and-hydra-propaganda-posters-from-mondo

    • Anonymous

      Those look awesome! i wish i could draw so i could make one. lol. 

    • Hmm it seems difficult. I can sort of picture an Inheritance one in my mind but I don’t think I’m skilled enough to attempt it.

  • Do we send our ‘WW2 Poster – Varden’ to the Podcast Email or another one?

  • Do we send our ‘WW2 Poster – Varden’ to the Podcast Email or another one?

  • Do we send our ‘WW2 Poster – Varden’ to the Podcast Email or another one?

  • XxxX

    Jumble it up, Mike.
    You’ll be more true to the story

  • XxxX

    I also hate Nasuada, Chris and Mike.

    !!! 

    • Mr. Anonymous

      Same here! Many people agree with you esp. guys. I think it has something to do with the subconscious disdain for being controlled or subservient to a woman. Interesting thought eh?

    • Mr. Anonymous

      Same here! Many people agree with you esp. guys. I think it has something to do with the subconscious disdain for being controlled or subservient to a woman. Interesting thought eh?

    • Mr. Anonymous

      Same here! Many people agree with you esp. guys. I think it has something to do with the subconscious disdain for being controlled or subservient to a woman. Interesting thought eh?

  • XxxX

    Mike, you should tell us what you’re doing stupid in the spoiler section.

  • That was actually how I read Eldest (After Watching Eragon) I read all of what Eragon was doing, then I went back to Roran’s chapters. Of course by the time I finished Eragon’s parts, I had seen the deleted scenes with Katrina in them, so that part made more sense.

  • bromandsaphira

    where’s the interview?

    • It will be released when we are ready to release it. I have a lot going on right now both personally and work-wise. People don’t realize it, but everything that happens on Shur’tugal these days is structured, timed, and scheduled. I do not throw things up at random. It won’t be too long, but it won’t be tomorrow either.

      • Anonymous

        Im praying for your family members. Hope they get better soon!

      • Anonymous

        Im praying for your family members. Hope they get better soon!

      • Anonymous

        Im praying for your family members. Hope they get better soon!

      • Guest

        Structured, timed, and scheduled…. yeah. So why did you guys tell people there was a good chance it would be released within a week of the end of comic con?

        Hope you and your family are doing well.

      • Guest

        Structured, timed, and scheduled…. yeah. So why did you guys tell people there was a good chance it would be released within a week of the end of comic con?

        Hope you and your family are doing well.

        • Fairth

          Have some respect, they have their reasons.  We’re really lucky that we’re getting these podcasts and the Big Twenty countdown, not to mention everything else that this site provides.

  • Arezoo Kashefipour

    I have a few things to point out:
    1. This is a question for Mike; How can you hate Nasuada for asking for fealty and love Hrothgars decision of adopting Eragon?
    They essentially entail the same responsibilities and promises if you consider what dwarves expect from clan members.
    2. About Nasuada’s decision to ask for fealty; Consider her position as a potential puppet for the council to manipulate, she needed a strong backer to stop that from happening; On the other hand Eragon was expected to show some sort of support for the Varden, it is better to show that support in a way that emboldens the peoples belief in the appropriate choice for their leader rather than promising himself to a bunch of manipulators. Remember that there were people thinking Eragon should take the place of leader; this was also a way to show such people that he thought Nasuada a better choice for such a responsibility. 
    And if it makes you feel better remember that Saphira has made no promises and at least one of the two still has their freedom.
    3. Regarding Nasuada’s whipping Roran; No matter the outcome of a disregard for chain of command a message had to be sent to the rest of the army that insubordination would not be tolerated or any soldier who thought they knew better than their commanding officer would take matters into their own hands and the army would end in chaos.
    Also Nasuada couldn’t be seen to show favor to Roran because that would weaken the regard and respect people had for her as a leader. A leader cannot be seen to let how they may feel about someone get in the way of enforcing the laws they have lain, the moment they do, others will too.

    • Random12345

      Mike, I think that your “perfect justification” is being torn apart! Arezoo Kashefipour has a good point. What’s your answer for this?

      • Opinions can’t be wrong — they’re opinions.

        Additionally, I’ve addressed these points already throughout the comments.

        But I’ll say again: my opinion is my own, and opinions cannot be wrong.

        • Arezoo Kashefipour

          I didn’t mean to imply that your opinions were wrong and am sorry if that is the way it came across. I was simply trying to point out that the actions that have caused your dislike were probably the only things that could have been done given the situation. So at the very least don’t blame Christopher’s writing! He’s one of the few authors I don’t have a bone to pick with!!! 

          • guest

            Well you should.

          • guest

            Well you should.

        • Random12345

          I think that is well put!

    • Lil Uhura

      Well said.

  • I cant find Episode 6 of podcast on itunes!! I subscribed on the podcast a long time back. Now that i open the podcast to download podcast 6, it is not there. Only episodes 1-5 are there for download. Please help

    • when I went to look, I only saw five as well, but the most recent one was the sixth one. I checked the date and then went by that.

      • But even if you go by date, the last one was released on 28/07/11 while this post was written on 05/08/11.

        • As far as I can tell, iTunes had a problem reading the feed and deleted Episode 5 from their episode list. I’m still working on trying to figure out a solution. However, Episode 6 IS available on iTunes.

  • Boss

    Nasuada comes in when the varden gets to surda and she gets attacked by the assasin, i also didnt like Roaran’s POV the first couple times I read the book but now i love him.

    • Boss

      I also dont like Nasuada very much, shes to hypocritical.  I think/hope that Nasuada dies, Roran will replace her at the head of the Varden and Katrina will be rightful queen.

  • Fairth

    Nasuada is a bit of a quandary for me.  I like her as a person, and tend to think that she’s doing the best she can as leader of the Varden.  On the other hand, I don’t like some of her decisions (although with many of them I agree with the why but not the how), how forward she can be (the girl needs to learn some respect), and I’m not exactly for her being the head of the Varden.
    My only other note on this (a problem I face in my arguments as well) is that at one time you expect her be less bold and make better-considered choices, but at others (such as the trial of the long knives*) you’re like “Forget the Varden cause, off with their heads!”

    *BTW: I do have problems with people deliberately cutting themselves except to save their lives.

    I like the idea of keeping the different POVs separate when covered in the podcast.

    I know that it could be a logistical nightmare for the editor and for how to talk through it, but you (Mike) mentioned that you hated having to keep spoilers to the end.  So, what if you came up with some way (preferably easy to edit) to talk about both at the time the subject comes up, and just have a version with spoilers in it and a version without?
    Just an idea, but if it worked well, it could be more organic and have a better flow for you and listeners alike.  The draw-back being more work post-production.

    • It would be too much work, unfortunately. Editing these already takes Bob multiple hours and we’re already tight on time. We have to record and edit all on Wednesdays, and Bob works a full time job until ~8pm, so he isn’t able to start editing until then and needs to eat, sleep, relax all before 2am. It’s too much to ask of him, unfortunately.

      • Then I get to 3am, realize I’m only 50 minutes into the episode then I have to finish Thursday night and delay the release by a few hours 🙁

  • Oh gosh Mike you like made me steam up by all the criticism of Nasuada. I know the whipping thing was really not the best idea, but I still say it was necessary. No matter what she’s still my favorite human. Sometimes I feel as sorry for her as Murtagh. And I wouldn’t expect Galbatorix to do that, I would expect him to do something much much worse.

    Oh by the way, I might start up those Propaganda Posters. 😉

  • Lauren I love your epic yes please continue with it 😀

  • I thought Christopher’s writing changed for the better in Eldest. It’s also probably good for Eragon too, because he seems more formal and mature.

    • I actually liked Eragon a bit more when he was still a bit immature/informal/out of his element. It made him more human.

  • Sesshy

    I totally agree with mike about disliking Nasuada, but I would like to add why I do not like her.
    that is because I dont like the way she can go from a friendly and casual conversation to formal and unfriendly at times in the blink of an eye. That just tells me that she could turn on them and they would never see it coming. which would cause a problem for eragon see as how he swore fealty to her.

  • Seth_buchanan

    Yep fez’s and Bow ties  are cool.

  • “This week, it’s Doctor Who.” Lol whatta ya mean isn’t it Doctor who like every week? I’ll make sure to watch at least one episode sometime to see if it’s as good as people say.

    • I’ll have to tell you which one I really like that kind of captures the series. Because starting with the first one, and only watching that one, won’t do it for you, I don’t think… but I’m enjoying it. I succumbed to the pressure! 

      • Mark McMillar

        Laurn, if you’re still on Series 1, I’d recommend episodes 9 and 10.

      • Mark McMillar

        Laurn, if you’re still on Series 1, I’d recommend episodes 9 and 10.

        • Mark McMillar

          Sorry I menat ‘Lauren’, not Laurn.

        • Mark McMillar

          Sorry I menat ‘Lauren’, not Laurn.

  • Greenie

    Does it make me a bad reader that I don’t notice all of the things you guys see? I love to read but I’m worried that I might not as good as I thought I was.

    • Oh my goodness, no! I am reading this with a notebook and pen, and each chapter I try to notice something to talk about. When I initially read these, I don’t know if I thought about these things, I am just thinking of them now because I have to have a discussion about them! In general, I have a bad memory with reading, and I think it is because I read fast and get caught up in the flow of the story, which means I tend to miss little details like this sometimes. So no, I’d say you’re not alone, and don’t worry! This is our job, so to speak, to find all these little minute things to discuss. 🙂

      • Greenie

        Thank you that makes me feel much better. And I think I probably don’t notice thugs cus of what you said d, I’m a really fast reader. When brisingr came outsaan I finished it in 4 days and I was in the sixth grade. So again that you a ton for what you said.

        • Boss

          same! 🙂

        • Boss

          same! 🙂

    • Not at all. I’ve read these books dozens of time for work and pleasure. Our job is to read through them looking for these things. I’m sure I missed them all on my first read-through or two, just as I likely miss small things in books I’m simply reading for pleasure.

  • Anonymous

    It would probably help the podcast flow better if you guys kept all the Eragon parts together (skipping over the Roran stuff) and then do the Roran chapters.

    I personally like the Roran point of view stuff better – I feel like he’s a more believable character than Eragon. I’m glad that CP had his PoV in there to give another perspective on everything.

    And Chris, you should totally start your own tangent to counteract Mike and Lauren’s Dr. Who tangents haha

    • Yes, maybe there’s something Chris and I have in common that Mike hasn’t explored… god only knows what that might be exactly! 

      • Anonymous

        Either of you watch Scrubs? that could be a good tangent haha

  • Anonymous

    srsly guys, you were all amazing. i first thought this episode would be kinda boring.. but it happened to be exactly the opposite! it’s getting better each week, ‘n you’re enjoining it so that it makes a lot of difference. Lauren i loved you on this one. you went marvelous. srsly. 

    so, this week’s reading.. i thought it’d be sort of boresome.. and at some point it was, but it was also cool because i got really upset sometimes (yeah i kinda like it. for me turns the book into an interesting thing). i simply  hated the women in this beginning of eldest i mean look at Arya! she was hard to understand and she definitively pissed me off. she was playing? i pity eragon that poor boy. then shame on her. And Trianna what the hell was wrong with her? i was like “freakin bitc* get out of him!” and it was funny cos i didn’t realize the first time i read the book that she was using of magic to wrap eragon on that game. and relief overcame me when saphira interrupted her, at least one female went nice. 

    well then comes Nasuada. i don’t like Nasuada. i’m just like Mike. i admire her job and what she did for the Varden and stuff but i agree with Mike – what she did with Roran made totally no sense, no ok perhaps it makes sense but she did not have the right. she could have avoid it if she wanted. there was no need of that.  i’m eagerly waintin’ for this discussion when Chris joins the show. and i guess that’s it. the rest of the reading was ok (omg that scene when eragon tries to scry murtagh really caught my attention, even re-reading. i once more got sad) 

    and Chris! you’re cool chris, never mind that those two bad guys kinda let your aside when talkin about doctor who XD jk. come on man, you gotta try it. doctor who is pure awesomeness (lauren the second season is flawless, sad at some point and really crazy) i had such a fun on this one. i really did. thank you guys. you’re making this wait a little less tough to bear 🙂

  • Anonymous

    srsly guys, you were all amazing. i first thought this episode would be kinda boring.. but it happened to be exactly the opposite! it’s getting better each week, ‘n you’re enjoining it so that it makes a lot of difference. Lauren i loved you on this one. you went marvelous. srsly. 

    so, this week’s reading.. i thought it’d be sort of boresome.. and at some point it was, but it was also cool because i got really upset sometimes (yeah i kinda like it. for me turns the book into an interesting thing). i simply  hated the women in this beginning of eldest i mean look at Arya! she was hard to understand and she definitively pissed me off. she was playing? i pity eragon that poor boy. then shame on her. And Trianna what the hell was wrong with her? i was like “freakin bitc* get out of him!” and it was funny cos i didn’t realize the first time i read the book that she was using of magic to wrap eragon on that game. and relief overcame me when saphira interrupted her, at least one female went nice. 

    well then comes Nasuada. i don’t like Nasuada. i’m just like Mike. i admire her job and what she did for the Varden and stuff but i agree with Mike – what she did with Roran made totally no sense, no ok perhaps it makes sense but she did not have the right. she could have avoid it if she wanted. there was no need of that.  i’m eagerly waintin’ for this discussion when Chris joins the show. and i guess that’s it. the rest of the reading was ok (omg that scene when eragon tries to scry murtagh really caught my attention, even re-reading. i once more got sad) 

    and Chris! you’re cool chris, never mind that those two bad guys kinda let your aside when talkin about doctor who XD jk. come on man, you gotta try it. doctor who is pure awesomeness (lauren the second season is flawless, sad at some point and really crazy) i had such a fun on this one. i really did. thank you guys. you’re making this wait a little less tough to bear 🙂

  • Anonymous

    srsly guys, you were all amazing. i first thought this episode would be kinda boring.. but it happened to be exactly the opposite! it’s getting better each week, ‘n you’re enjoining it so that it makes a lot of difference. Lauren i loved you on this one. you went marvelous. srsly. 

    so, this week’s reading.. i thought it’d be sort of boresome.. and at some point it was, but it was also cool because i got really upset sometimes (yeah i kinda like it. for me turns the book into an interesting thing). i simply  hated the women in this beginning of eldest i mean look at Arya! she was hard to understand and she definitively pissed me off. she was playing? i pity eragon that poor boy. then shame on her. And Trianna what the hell was wrong with her? i was like “freakin bitc* get out of him!” and it was funny cos i didn’t realize the first time i read the book that she was using of magic to wrap eragon on that game. and relief overcame me when saphira interrupted her, at least one female went nice. 

    well then comes Nasuada. i don’t like Nasuada. i’m just like Mike. i admire her job and what she did for the Varden and stuff but i agree with Mike – what she did with Roran made totally no sense, no ok perhaps it makes sense but she did not have the right. she could have avoid it if she wanted. there was no need of that.  i’m eagerly waintin’ for this discussion when Chris joins the show. and i guess that’s it. the rest of the reading was ok (omg that scene when eragon tries to scry murtagh really caught my attention, even re-reading. i once more got sad) 

    and Chris! you’re cool chris, never mind that those two bad guys kinda let your aside when talkin about doctor who XD jk. come on man, you gotta try it. doctor who is pure awesomeness (lauren the second season is flawless, sad at some point and really crazy) i had such a fun on this one. i really did. thank you guys. you’re making this wait a little less tough to bear 🙂

    • See Chris? People are judging you for not watching. Judging you!

      • Anonymous

        nah.. everybody loves Chris XD

  • Anonymous

    I think that discipline should be kept in an army, but i think Roran should have been an exception in this instance. He did the right think and kept his fellow soldiers alive instead of leading them to their death

  • Random12345

    I agree on the fact that it was hypocritical on Nasuada’s part to whip him for insubordination, while she herself disobeyed her father’s orders. 

    At the same time, I believe that while it was a heroic act on Roran’s part, the military SHOULD have strict punishments, otherwise the soldiers will end up running around without a care in the world as to what their commanders say….. but still Roran should have got a medal of honor or something AFTER he was whipped. 

    Maybe this situation is CP trying to say that Nasuada ISNT fit for command…….. a plot hint for the future?

    Guys, if you like this comment please reply to it, like it, etc. Thanks.

    • Anonymous

      a plot hint for the future? possible. after all one would have to rule that continent and if that’s what you’re proposing, then CP means that nasuada is not this proper one.

    • Matt

      If I remember correctly, he did get his own command afterwards based on the leadership qualities that he has shown. I can’t remember if it was in Eldest or Brisingr though.

  • BigFan

    i think that i read in brisingr (or it could just be one of my theories, not sure) that the reason why arya and angela couldn’t heal Eragons is because of the spirits that came out of Durza when he died, i think some of them went in to Eragon. but it does say in Brisingr that arya offered to heal the scar(not the “curse”), but eragon didn’t want to because he felt that he was the same as Murtagh. 

  • Logic Lawyer

    I have to completely agree with Mike regarding Nasuada. It seems that the decision to whip Roran really divides the fanbase in strong opinions, and I’m definitely on the disapproving side. I remember getting into long debates on the forums back when I was under a different name regarding the subject, and it seems the debate is still going.

    One thing I thought of when listening: Here, in “Eldest,” Nasuada violates Ajihad’s orders and fights in the battle, going against orders to do what she believed was right, and there was no mention of her receiving any kind of punishment. However, in “Brisingr”, Roran does effectively the same thing to great success, and Nasuada very harshly punishes him. What a self-entitled hypocrite.

  • Anonymous

    Why isn’t this podcast up on iTunes yet?

  • Anonymous

    Why isn’t this podcast up on iTunes yet?

    • Not sure — I’ll look into it.

      • Anonymous

        Episode 6 is now on iTunes (Thanks Mike!) but now episode 5 has disappeared…

      • Anonymous

        Episode 6 is now on iTunes (Thanks Mike!) but now episode 5 has disappeared…

  • Anonymous

    I must agree with hating that Murtagh just “disappears”. That always bothered me as well. And I don’t dislike Nasuada as much as you guys do. I think she is a very good ruler (managing an army that humongous surprisingly successfully) and will end up being queen of Alagaesia. HOWEVER, I don’t like some of her decisions, such as participating in the Trial of Long Knives (she should have said “F*** you! Go die in a ditch!”) and (especially hurt me on the inside) flogging Roran. That definitely, to me, sent the wrong message.  But she is not power mad or egotistical. If she wanted, she could make Eragon a total servant and derive a lot of personal gain off him, but she chooses not to.

    • Anonymous

      this is what i admire on her and at the same time what drives me crazy. 
      i admire her because of what she did in the Trial of Long Knives. i think that went pretty well, fit well. obviously that she could have denied it, but that just assure her job as a ruler, as she herself stated in the book. but anyway another thing about her relationship with eragon is that the boy sometimes made wrong decisions. in eragon’s case, idk he could have said fuck off, i’m a rider, look at Saphira here by my side. i wont swear fealty (what a word eh guys? hahaha) to anyone… but he didn’t and i know he was in a trap, it was necessary but it wouldn’t turn out being a bad thing if he had denied it. 
       
      and agree with what you and the guys say about Murtagh. apart from Eragon everyone else seemed to forget the guy. for me it just confirms that he didn’t belonged to that place not yet at least. 

    • Anonymous

      this is what i admire on her and at the same time what drives me crazy. 
      i admire her because of what she did in the Trial of Long Knives. i think that went pretty well, fit well. obviously that she could have denied it, but that just assure her job as a ruler, as she herself stated in the book. but anyway another thing about her relationship with eragon is that the boy sometimes made wrong decisions. in eragon’s case, idk he could have said fuck off, i’m a rider, look at Saphira here by my side. i wont swear fealty (what a word eh guys? hahaha) to anyone… but he didn’t and i know he was in a trap, it was necessary but it wouldn’t turn out being a bad thing if he had denied it. 
       
      and agree with what you and the guys say about Murtagh. apart from Eragon everyone else seemed to forget the guy. for me it just confirms that he didn’t belonged to that place not yet at least. 

  • firemonkey

    When will the Comic Con interview be released?

  • Logic Lawyer

    Eldest wasn’t the first mention of the title “Shadeslayer.” Arya mentioned it at the end of the first book, when she said that Eragon had paid a grave price for his deed and called him “Eragon Shadeslayer.”

    Ajihad definitely knew about the nature of killing a Shade by the time that he fought Durza-he didn’t find it out from that duel. He specially mentions to Eragon about the scratch on Durza’s blade, “I put it there while trying to cut out his heart.” Beyond that, he doesn’t say whether he escaped or disembodied Durza in that duel.

  • iLoveDragons

    I wholeheartedly agree on the whole “Nasuada is unfair/pompous” thing. There are so many instances where Nasuada makes it really hard for me to like her. Especially when she so brazenly uses everyone. She has no problem using Eragon’s fealty to her advantage. She uses King Orrin   a lot  and treats him as though he is  a child.  Nasuada even basically tells him “blah-blah-Eragon is sworn to me not you blah-blah”. There is also the whole Roran thing, I can’t really elaborate any more than Mike and Chris did in the podcast. 

    But what really upsets me is the how Nasuada treats Elva. Elva is so obviously a tool to Nasuada and it is not okay with me. 

  • AvaAnnaZ

    Poor Chris – he’s starting to get seriously bashed by Mike and Lauren. I really enjoy his (brief) contributions!!

  • AvaAnnaZ

    Poor Chris – he’s starting to get seriously bashed by Mike and Lauren. I really enjoy his (brief) contributions!!

    • We’re only joking with him. Chris is a good friend and contributor, he just needs to talk more (and say ya’ll less)!

      • Anonymous

        agree, what about pushing him into doctor who Mike? so he wont suffer that much XD 
        and i love when he talks, i mean i get all anxious like “omg, Chris is gonna talk, there comes cool points.” (and also his voice is interesting) 

      • Anonymous

        agree, what about pushing him into doctor who Mike? so he wont suffer that much XD 
        and i love when he talks, i mean i get all anxious like “omg, Chris is gonna talk, there comes cool points.” (and also his voice is interesting) 

      • I like the y’all! 

        • AvaAnnaZ

          As I seem to have captured your attention, I just thought I’d take this opportunity to say how wicked the book club is. It’s really wonderful and I look forward to it each week. So thank you very much Lauren, Chris, Robert and especially Mike. Shurtugal.com (and also now Lytherus) is seriously becoming one of the highlights of my life.

        • AvaAnnaZ

          As I seem to have captured your attention, I just thought I’d take this opportunity to say how wicked the book club is. It’s really wonderful and I look forward to it each week. So thank you very much Lauren, Chris, Robert and especially Mike. Shurtugal.com (and also now Lytherus) is seriously becoming one of the highlights of my life.

      • Y’all!!!!!!!!

    • Chris is awesome, and he makes me laugh really hard every week, whether on the podcast or in our personal chats before and after. I guess I should say too that Mike and I have been discussing me watching Doctor Who for months now, and it just happens to be right now, and it sort of fit in with his CP story last week, and I don’t know, it was just time. Poor Chris is just going along for the ride, I guess! I just tease him because Mike and I can talk A LOT, and he needs to speak up more, because I like what he has to say! 

  • Guest

    Mike for leader of the Varden

  • The best leaders make smart decisions, not the “right” decisions. However, the smart decisions aren’t always the best liked.

    • Like I said in my rant on the show, I did not feel that punishing a heroic warrior for saving the lives of many by ignoring the commands of an incompetent soldier was warranted, which means I do not think it was a right OR smart decision.

      • Noodleyful

        I think you like Roran too much.
        I despise Roran . . .

        • Anonymous

          why?

      • ItsEminem

        What do you know of the army? It runs on discipline and a strong chain of command. Insubordination is a very serious crime in the army. The military does not bend it’s rules just because a few lives were saved. Roran got of very lightly, most cases like his ended with a death penalty. Take the Roman army: insubordnation could end in crucifixion. The army runs on discipline. If men just get away without punishment after disobeying an order it gives chances for others to follow their lead when they will = loss of discipline = no order = army falls apart.

        • Let’s pelt Mike with stones!

        • Agreed. I think Nasuada was saying to her troops “Look, not even Stronghammer can escape punishment from disobeying an order, even if that order is stupid.” Which I think is a good thing for the Varden to know. Disorder isn’t something that the Varden as a military force needs as a time of war. Watch the Military Channel and you can see what were talking about.

        • Hard to ask your soldiers to follow orders when you yourself do not. My personal belief is that when someone goes against the orders of an incompetent fool to save the lives of his fellow soldiers, he isn’t the enemy. The fool who made the death orders and the fool who put the first fool in that position of power are the enemies.

        • Anonymous

          ok so he disobeyed her, and so he should be punished. ok until here i totally agree. but the punishment was too tough, unnecessary and by all means she could have chosen another thing but whipping him. it was too cruel. i’d agree with this wholeheartedly if the circumstances were different, but roran saved lives, and that’s what matters. in the whole book CP ensures that life is the most precious thing of the world, that even ants are precious, even plants. i know nasuada thought that and she considered it, but not by the right ways.

          • ItsEminem

            Precious to the elves not to the humans. Either way the elves are joes when it comes to war and command. You think the punsihment was harsh because your not a soldier he actually got off quite well. Most cases like his would end in death. Most people on here are not part of the army nor do they understand it. CP doesn’t really go into depth on the army in IC, which is to be expected seeing as it isn’t a military novel. But yeah. It doesn’t matter how incompetent the commander is, an order is an order. That guy in IC whatever his name was, he wasn’t even incompetent he just didn’t have imagination he was a average officer.

          • ItsEminem

            Meant to say elves are jokes when it comes to war and command. Yeah life is only worshipped by the elves not anyone else.

          • ItsEminem

            Precious to the elves not to the humans. Either way the elves are joes when it comes to war and command. You think the punsihment was harsh because your not a soldier he actually got off quite well. Most cases like his would end in death. Most people on here are not part of the army nor do they understand it. CP doesn’t really go into depth on the army in IC, which is to be expected seeing as it isn’t a military novel. But yeah. It doesn’t matter how incompetent the commander is, an order is an order. That guy in IC whatever his name was, he wasn’t even incompetent he just didn’t have imagination he was a average officer.

          • ItsEminem

            Precious to the elves not to the humans. Either way the elves are joes when it comes to war and command. You think the punsihment was harsh because your not a soldier he actually got off quite well. Most cases like his would end in death. Most people on here are not part of the army nor do they understand it. CP doesn’t really go into depth on the army in IC, which is to be expected seeing as it isn’t a military novel. But yeah. It doesn’t matter how incompetent the commander is, an order is an order. That guy in IC whatever his name was, he wasn’t even incompetent he just didn’t have imagination he was a average officer.

  • Guest

    Can you guys do a podcast all on Book 4 ideas/theories before Book 4 comes out

    • Maaaaaaybe.

      But that’s what our Big Twenty series is for.

  • k-b

    the way i say ingeitum is in-jeet-um

  • Guest

    CP writes politics as good as The West Wing

    • Arteza147

      Victory is mine, victory is mine its a great day in the morning cause victory is mine!

  • Noodleyful

    I will totally make the WWII stye posters!!! 😀 I’m going to make them like the ones from the Winston Churchill episode with Matt Smith. I think I’ll be using still images from the movie, of Eragon flying with Saphira, with a background of blue and white stripes. I have to come up with a slogan . . . 

  • Noodleyful

    I will totally make the WWII stye posters!!! 😀 I’m going to make them like the ones from the Winston Churchill episode with Matt Smith. I think I’ll be using still images from the movie, of Eragon flying with Saphira, with a background of blue and white stripes. I have to come up with a slogan . . . 

    • Noodleyful

      Actually I’m going to use my own artwork . . . I want suggestions for slogans @ noodleyful.blogspot.com. Comment on the blogpost entitled “Varden Propaganda”

  • GS

    I’m a little surprised Mike didn’t realize Murtagh was still alive at first. I figured everyone and their grandmothers would suspect it. And I thought it was hilarious when Mike said Nasuada should think about whipping herself..lol. True dat.

    • Guest

      well aren’t you great maybe you can tell us who the green rider is if you are so smart

    • Guest

      well aren’t you great maybe you can tell us who the green rider is if you are so smart

  • Har

    I dislike Nasuada too! Brom spent the entire first book trying to make sure Eragon was a free rider and the first thing Eragon does in the next book is give it up to a newbie leader by swearing fealty to Nasuada. She could’ve just refused it and say his freedom is more important to the fate of alagaesia. I hated the way she tried in control Eragon in Brisingr and not let him return to Ellesmera to complete his training even though he clearly needed it. He could barely beat Murtagh for christ sakes. I understand the Varden is important but homegirl needs to look at the big picture!

  • As

    Mike, I also love how much of an anglophile you’ve become,

    • Dremayor

      I realised that too. He likes Harry Potter, Doctor Who, Torchwood..

      Probably likes Lord of the Rings as well.

      • I could list many more British shows, movies, etc that I enjoy other than the obvious 😛

    • Yeah, it’s bad. I was born in the USA but my heart belongs in Britain!

      • Dremayor

        What’s your favourite Doctor Who series, Mike?

        • Probably easier to answer who my favorite Doctor is — it was a tie between 10 and 11 before series six. Now my favorite is 11.

          • Mark McMillar

            David Tennant probably still edges it for me, but I loved Christopher Ecclestone and Matt Smith too.

            As for the podcast, I have began to re-read Eldest, I hope to catch up in time for next week’s podcast.

      • AvaAnnaZ

        Yay!!! My British Eragon-fan friends and I here in London are pleased by this!

  • Dremayor

    Enjoying these Doctor Who talks.

    Doctor Who makes me proud to be British!

    • We’ve got to be careful — it’s starting to turn into a Who-cast!

      • Dremayor

        Fine. But you should start a some sort of Who-Club on Lytherus.

        Anyway, enjoyed the podcast. I find Nasuada annoying as well.

      • five minutes in a 90-minute podcast… I think we’re safe… for now 🙂

  • Dremayor

    Enjoying these Doctor Who talks.

    Doctor Who makes me proud to be British!

  • As

    Love Doctor Who.

    Of the revamped series’, series 1,2 and 5 are awesome.

    Series 3, the one with Martha Jones, was a let down.

    But I love these discussions. Torchwood is AWESOME TOO!

  • Anonymous

    Is it weird that I stay up and wait for these to show up? If it is, then I don’t care, hahahaha.

    • Be proud! I don’t care what they say about you!

      • Anonymous

        Me either 🙂

  • First.

    Yeah, I admit, I posted this story and I am the first commenter. I deserve it after having to edit together 1 HOUR and 34 MINUTES and 24 SECONDS.

    Longest episode yet! It’s pretty funny though! Entertaining for sure.

  • First.

    Yeah, I admit, I posted this story and I am the first commenter. I deserve it after having to edit together 1 HOUR and 34 MINUTES and 24 SECONDS.

    Longest episode yet! It’s pretty funny though! Entertaining for sure.

    • For whomever is curious, a tiny snapshot of the edits for this episode:

    • For whomever is curious, a tiny snapshot of the edits for this episode:

    • For whomever is curious, a quick little snapshot of the edits for Ep. 6:

      • WOW! You can definitely tell which one is Mike, which is me, and which is Chris…! 

        Bob, you’re my hero for doing this. I know I was a bit loopy this week being sick, so thanks for all you do 🙂

        • I felt sorry for you during this show! I definitely edited out a bunch of sniffles 😛

          • Dude, and I was trying to do you a favor; I muted my mic every time I coughed, which was pretty frequently! Thanks for editing out the sickness. Too bad that doesn’t work in real life! 

        • Anonymous

          Get well soon Lauren! 🙂