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- Introduction! Your hosts are Mike Macauley (Shur’tugal, Lytherus, The Inheritance Almanac), Lauren Zurchin (Lytherus.com), and Chris Addison (Shurtugal.com)
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- This week’s tangent: Mike shares a hilarious behind-the-scenes story from Comic-Con featuring him, Christopher Paolini, and the lead singer of Mike’s favorite band
- We jump into the book, discussing this section’s key events, including: the exploration of Tronjheim; the introduction of Ajihad, Orik, Hrothgar, and Nasuada; Arya heals; the Twins; the Battle for Farthen Dur; the defeat of Durza; Eragon’s scar; and more!
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- Hosts discuss some observations from this reading — facts to keep in mind going forward
- We reveal this week’s “sweepstakes word”… you’ll have to listen to hear it!
- Big announcement: Christopher will be joining us soon!
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- The spoiler-free portion of the show ends with a spoiler warning as we begin to discuss our spoiler-ridden theories!
- End of episode five!
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So when I went to iTunes, I couldn’t find this episode. Only episodes 1 2 3 4 and 6. And when I came here to listen to episode 5, it plays episode 1… What’s up with that?? I need help 🙁
That’s the exact thing that happened to me!
I really wanted to hear the last bit of Eragon!
Great story mike! MCR are my favourite band too, I think you are even more awesome now! So, author of favourite book series, lead singer of favourite band, star of favourite TV show, all in one day. Pretty good!
Great story mike! MCR are my favourite band too, I think you are even more awesome now! So, author of favourite book series, lead singer of favourite band, star of favourite TV show, all in one day. Pretty good!
Thanks for using my email in the podcast! Best podcast to date! Things are really heating up!
Anyone else think of the paradox brothers from that stupid Yu-Gi-Oh! anime when they think of the twins?
Nope… but I will now.
AMazing story Mike
Best episode yet!!!
Not all elves are gifted with magic Oromis told eragon that in book 2 during his training.
Didn’t Oromis say in Brisingr that if you used the transportation spell distance didn’t matter? If so, did Arya know something that everyone else didn’t or did she just think of Brom first?
I think he says that distance actually does matter.
no he says the size of the object does but distance doesnt
she thought of brom i would think it just appeared to eragon because of his hertiage i would think
He said that it was innaccurate.
so at about 4 minutes before the end they talked about the morzan spirit in durza, but Oromis said that elves don’t believe in an afterlife, and that spirits are their own race like humans or dwarves. Just wanted to pitch that thought in.
Morzan wasn’t an elf, but you are right about spirits being their own race, but that still doesn’t meant that they can’t come from dead people/things/beings
I agree with you but it must be considered that to elves, perhaps a kind of ghostly imprint of a former life such as a spirit doesn’t really count as an afterlife. Also, they may see these imprints as a race in themselves – they certainly have a very individual physical form. Besides, whilst I think that the elves are most probably correct in their theories, there is the possibility that they are just plain wrong about the nature of spirits and the existence of an afterlife.
I agree. Two points debunk that theory.
1. Morzan was not dead at the creation of Durza
2. Eragon asks if the spirits are the afterlife of any being, and she says no but rooms will have to tell you what they are
On point one, it is mentioned that galby learned his dark magics from Durza. So that would put his time before that of the fall. Morzan only died 16 years give or take before the events of Eragon
ok guys like or commment on this who thinks that the movie was really scrwed up i mean come on eragon dont find out arya is the queens daughter until the 2nd and in the book eragon dont fight durza in the air they fingt on ground in the bo0ok,why did they have to screw up the move so bad man i mean seriously
wow alot of spelling errors i made there
Hey! Just wondering if Mike and Chris could explain why they don’t like Nasuada(possibly in the next episode?). I’ve never felt that way about her. I’ve always thought she was a good strong character that has done the best with what she has been given. I’m just curious to hear what about her you guys don’t like. Thank you! 😀
Hey! Just wondering if Mike and Chris could explain why they don’t like Nasuada(possibly in the next episode?). I’ve never felt that way about her. I’ve always thought she was a good strong character that has done the best with what she has been given. I’m just curious to hear what about her you guys don’t like. Thank you! 😀
For some reason, I just don’t like Nasuada. IT’s just something about her, about the way she leads. To me, it’s like she expects people to do as she sais without objection. And when she ordered the whipping of roran, that got me really angry, I mean he saved the whole group’s worthless lives! I just don’t like her
Yes, but she did explain that any other soldier would have been whipped or hanged. Also, I hate Roran, he’s too perfect.
I will never understand why people don’t like her. I LOVE Nasuada. She deserves almost as much sympathy as Murtagh.
Nasuada is a good person I guess, but she doesn’t realize that she’s not the only one that can help the Varden. She acts like she is the final authority or the most powerful person.
She doesn’t take King Orrin’s feeling’s seriously and treats him as though he is a child.
She is unfair to Roran even when he actually saved her a lot of trouble.
She KNOWS that Elva doesn’t want to be use her “blessing’ from Eragon but still bothers her about it to help the Varden. She even tries to make it seem like Elva is the selfish one for not wanting to keep her ability to help the Varden when it is Nasuada who is being selfish for not considering Elva’s pain. Plus, she admits that she thinks Elva is creepy, so why should Elva do as she says?
She always tries to use everyone’s power without considering their feelings or thoughts on it. She just expects everyone to follow orders without any questions.
Also, she stinks.
I also find some of things that she does are distasteful but I think that she can be aquitted because for all of the things that you list above, she can be absolved on the basis that she did so for the cause of the greater good. She is therefore rather logical in her approach. I’m sure Arya approves.
Dude, I just got back from vacation… where the hecks the interview? did I miss it…
Question:
How did the Ajihad know Murtagh was the son of Morzan?
How did Ajihad know Murtagh had a scar down his back?
If Galbatorix kept the secret of Murtagh’s birth from the Forsworn, how did the Varden know?
Most likely Brom found out when he was undercover at Morzan’s estate but I don’t know how he found out about about the scar possibly from Brom as well.
Because Brom knew about Murtagh and Morzan. He also helped form the Varden, so Ajihad-the third succesor- would know.
Because Brom knew about Murtagh and Morzan. He also helped form the Varden, so Ajihad-the third succesor- would know.
Don’t forget that when Selena changed sides she gave Varden secrets
I can just imagine the conversation…
Selena: So Galbatorix has army’s here, here and here, the forsworn are hidden here and there is a secret entrance into the castle here. Oh, and by the way I have a 3 year old son names Murtagh, he has a large scar on his back.
(I do see your point, that Selena (or Brom) could have told the Varden)
I can just imagine the conversation…
Selena: So Galbatorix has army’s here, here and here, the forsworn are hidden here and there is a secret entrance into the castle here. Oh, and by the way I have a 3 year old son names Murtagh, he has a large scar on his back.
(I do see your point, that Selena (or Brom) could have told the Varden)
By his voice, it says so in Eragon. Ajihad met Morzan once, and so I’m sure the voice was so chilling he wouldn’t forget it. I’m sure he knew about the scar cause of Brom and Selena and the same with the birth
I agree, it must be that Brom or Selena told the Varden about Murtagh.
The thing I didn’t like about recognition by voice was, would someone recognize your voice, because they heard your fathers voice 20 years ago? No matter how creepy Morzan sounded, it wouldn’t have affected how Murtagh sounded.
MIKE
Where is that interview with CP from comic-con? It’s been a week since the convention ended.
wait a minute. I thought they said in Brisingr that spirits aren’t dead people? like that part where the spirits meet Eragon and Arya on the way back to the Varden?
That’s what I thought. I think I said I don’t think it’s dead people. I honestly haven’t read brisingr in awhile though. That’s why we’re doing the re-read!
Say, I wonder if that blind dude with a “vision”, who could see diamonds of Beloth the Wise belt, could be of some good use. I wonder if he can see through Eldunari. If he did, that could be a big advantage for Eragon.
I don’t remember this, could you point me to a page number, and was it in Eldest or Brisingr?
It is in Brisingr after the first battle of Laughing Ghouls. Eragon is asked to heal the wounded and he meets this guy who claims to be “touched by gods”. I hope this helps.
Yes, that jogged my memory. Thank you.
In Brisingr we learn that spirits aren’t human, elf or dwarf, they are a seperate race unto themselves, page 215 hardback.
100 more days until green book comes out! WOOOOOOO!
100 more days until green book comes out! WOOOOOOO!
100 more days until green book comes out! WOOOOOOO!
hmmmmmm if you ask me i think Brisingr is “THE” best book out yet in the Inheritance cycle
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i cant wait to read the 4th it should be as good as the 3rd just wait and see and like or reply to this if u think they realy screwed up the movie and need to find a way to fix it
Its a lost cause…
Its a lost cause…
Needs more Chris Addison (and his sexy accent)!
i love your name…Shurtypoo…amazing
agree.. why aren’t u that talkative chris? i mean we barely listen you in the show =s
Yeah, I think I’m listening to this 70% because of my extreme fandom and 30% because of Chris Addison. Although Lauren and Mike are also great, of course. But I think that perhaps the fact that Chris speaks more rarely means that when he does, it’s more… err… special? I concede: I dunno what I’m talking about.
So my personal theory is sorta out there, but possible. I was thinking about this, and its pretty illogical, but i think it MAY be right or at least leading up to something. On Brisingr’s cover, Gleadr has some semi-crinkled scales along his neck, and he was rather old and aged. Possibly indicating wear and tear on the scales just by time. On the Inheritances cover, nearly the entire dragon is crinkled. I’m thinking it may be possible that this new dragon is actually a old dragon. Possibly a rider who stumbled upon the egg during the early fighting or sometime before it, and decided to flee instead of risk going to the elves and being killed. Or it could been like in eragon’s case. Stumbled upon the egg, and when it hatched he (or she) was too excluded from the rest of the country to understand the meaning. Its just a errant thought, highly unlikely, but im deeply fascinated by the different appearances of the dragons. Even Thorn, a young dragon had smooth scales. I’m wondering what you guys think about my theory?
So my personal theory is sorta out there, but possible. I was thinking about this, and its pretty illogical, but i think it MAY be right or at least leading up to something. On Brisingr’s cover, Gleadr has some semi-crinkled scales along his neck, and he was rather old and aged. Possibly indicating wear and tear on the scales just by time. On the Inheritances cover, nearly the entire dragon is crinkled. I’m thinking it may be possible that this new dragon is actually a old dragon. Possibly a rider who stumbled upon the egg during the early fighting or sometime before it, and decided to flee instead of risk going to the elves and being killed. Or it could been like in eragon’s case. Stumbled upon the egg, and when it hatched he (or she) was too excluded from the rest of the country to understand the meaning. Its just a errant thought, highly unlikely, but im deeply fascinated by the different appearances of the dragons. Even Thorn, a young dragon had smooth scales. I’m wondering what you guys think about my theory?
i personally think that the crinkles mean hes young, like how a baby cat is fuzzy and then after time the fur becomes flat and smooth
i dont think that is the case considering glaedr is over 100 yrs old
I mean this with all due respect, but don’t you think that this might just be reading into it a little too much? Do you think that CP really told Jude Palencar to be sure to have that subtle hint in there? It’s possible, but I doubt it.
Yeah, some stuff you just have to overlook as random detail
christopher has said before there are no more hidden dragons and their riders
Not that I find it annoying or anything but just out of interest, do you keep reposting this on all of the comments pages… because I’ve seen it around a couple of times, I think, and I’m starting to worry about being delirious, possibly as a result of my excited anticipation of Book 4?! Thanks
yeah Mike, the killing durza, saphira breathing fire scene is defintly my favorite. amazing. but I also thought of this…
in Eragon, before the battle, he heards the vouice saying, “Are you ready?” is that Oromis maybe?
as mike said it may be, but there’s the possibility of it being brom’s voice whispering in Eragon’s dreams, either oromis or brom is fine, the point is – it’s not too relevant if it was brom’s voice (cos probably eragon was just imagining it since brom’s dead and one dead cannot talk to the living).
I agree with marcosfong– it was probably a crazy intense dream inspired from the stress and fear of going into battle. The voice may or may not be relevant. It was probably his own struggle with himself over his adequacy for future challenges.
*spoiler alert*
Hey mike i just listened to the podcast and i just believe that in book three pg 215 eragon asks Arya if we become spirits after we die and arya replys with a no. so that would kinda disrupt the whole morzan as a spirit in durza thing
I don’t remember reading that. What chapter is that from??
Morzan can’t be a spirit in Durza, Durza became a shade before Morazan died.
I couldn’t help myself. I’ve already read halfway through Brisingr.
My particular theory is that that Arya has been the Green Dragon’s rider since before the first book. As you said, her magic color now would not matter except as possible foreshadowing if she is just an elf. But, if you theorize that she is ALREADY a Rider, like myself, then her magic color being green is actually evidence for that theory. And, btw, i have several reasons to think this will be the case, and I have defended my theory from dozens of challengers. It is completely possible even if it seems unlikely to you.
hum. it sounds interesting cos it’s quite different from others’ theories..but wut makes ya think like that?
hum. it sounds interesting cos it’s quite different from others’ theories..but wut makes ya think like that?
Okay my first question is this then: How is she able to conceal this dragon’s prescence? They have to meet eventually bc remember Saphira gets terribly lonely and misses Eragon– if not for only a few days. Evidences of a dragon are prominent, as we have learned from the beginning of Eragon, and it is likely that her dragon would have attempted to save her earlier, especially at her original capture.
Secondly, She was riding a horse in the beginning. Wouldn’t it be so much easier and faster to ride a dragon instead? She would not waste time or make effort to have bodyguards if she did have a dragon.
My last and final point is that she does not have the gedwey ignasia. You may say she is concealing it like Brom but what would be the reason? Certainly it would have appeared when she shot blasts from her hands.
Not to be mean or put you down but the theory just doesn’t work out. It is still a possibility, though, that she may become a rider so don’t discount that.
Mike if you happen to see this … I heard you say you haven’t read the Dragon Rider’s of Pern books they are very good if you get some free time
wow! really nice job, you three! So, i was impressed to notice that i’m not the only one that didn’t know that not all elves are able of magic. That’s my first time re-reading the series.. so it might be natural.
uhn.. my favorite part during this week’s reading was probably when Eragon walked in Hrothgar’s room in Tronjheim. It’s just amazing i think it sounded quite glorious.. idk it’s just that i love dwarves (though i agree some of them are jerks) and all those thrones and statues of dead dwarf kings.. that all was just brilliant to me. re-reading that gave me chills.
I liked when Lauren mentioned that her favorite part was when she realized Solembum was hanging around with Saphira and then Eragon arrives and he seemed to mean that that was TOO weird, and then Saphira and the werecat are all like “what?! y u being so like that? it’s isn’t so unique.” but that is actually unique XD i just loved that.
there are so many points.. I really liked that theory (idk i forgot the name of the guy..) of galby’s motivation being bringing his first dragon back to life. I think that’s amazing, and it’s a good reason, though i’m pretty sure that even galby knows that it’s impossible, even if he had all the power of alagaesia (exception be taken, if he found the true name of the AL he would DEFINITIVELY be able to this.) I also agree with Mike. He’s not capable of love, but he can change (even one like him).
so excited for (idk episode eight?) when chris joins the show O
Arya is also my favourite character (except for Saphira who is pure “awesomeness”). Don’t know why I like her soo much but everytime she and Eragon talks and are togheter in general I get like, really happy for some reason. She’s such a kick ass chick without going all drama. XD
I think that his talk with her was one of my favourites during this week. Don’t remember exactly since I’m not following the read-through (I read through the entire series just as this started, or else I would totaly have joined the party ^^), but I was just looking back at it out of pure curiosity and totally loved it.
I just had to take a moment to share my agreement with you Chris. Can’t wait to see what we’ll get to see from her in Inheritance after such a great ending of Brisingr.
The theory about Morzans spirit possessing Durza is impossible. In Brisingr Oramis says that Galbatorix broke the will of the first heart-of-hearts with the help of Durza. That was before morzan died!!!
I wanna say thank you to Mike for using 4 of my points (this is Josh A. by the way :)) i was so excited not only to hear my name on the podcast, but to hear so many on my points used! 🙂 My new goal: break my own record 🙂
Yay! The theory I sent in was read on the show! 😀
That aside, I can’t wait for the week that Christopher will be on… It’s going to be amazing… 😀
Oops, forgot to mention that my theory was the last one they read… Silly me.
I know this is not real, but if saphira was real. I would not want to mess with in anyway
i’m quite like that too hahaha
and she’s totally right of assuming her independence. i mean she cannot let others command her actions. none of the dragons would allow it. and then i think of Shuriken (saying his name is such a tough thing XD). I think that if he could he’d grab galby’s head with his claws and take it away, stab his body with one of his mortal scales and stuff like this. but he can’t do it. not yet.
hehe shuriken [naruto]. Its Shruiken like SHREW ICK KEHN
I’m sorry if this is wrong, but I can’t get past 20 minutes on the first episode, so I can’t get the first secret word. Can anybody tell me it?!? 😉
Furthermore, the spirits that possess shades are NOT the spirits of the dead returned from the afterlife. CP confirmed this before Brisingr was even released. Eragon even raises this very point in Brisingr when he and Arya encountered spirits.
Eragon: “They aren’t human spirits, are they? Nor elf, nor dwarf, nor those of any other creature. That is, they aren’t ghosts. We don’t become them after we die.”
Arya: “No. And please do not ask me, as I know you are about to, what, then, they really are. It is a question for Oromis to answer, not me.”
Brisingr, chapter “Shadows of the Past,” page 215.
Mike, the foreboding of when Murtagh speaks about Nasuada is because Murtagh says that Nasuada carries herself like a princess and acts more royal than the ladies of Galbatorixes court. Eragon was thinking about his future that he would love a NOBLE. But he did not know for sure.
I always thought he was worried for Murtagh; he should look at himself, he’s the one falling for Arya which is bad enough even if you can’t blame him. But he’s right, the son of Morzan falling for the daughter of the Varden’s leader is not a very good sign. That’s always what I thought the foreboding was for.
No! Not all elves can use magic! Magic is not inborn in elves!
“You must keep in mind that the ability to use magic is exceedingly rare among the races. We elves are no exception, although we have a greater allotment of spellweavers than most, as a result of oaths we bound ourselves with centuries ago.”-Oromis, Eldest, chapter “The Nature of Evil,” page 377.
Please, please, please get this straight. Not all elves can use magic. That idea is explicitly refuted in the books themselves, in plain English, by one of the oldest and most knowledgeable characters in the entire series. Not all elves can use magic.
Thank you for a direct quote settling all of this. It was all speculation before.
I’m a week ahead of the reading D:
I’m a week ahead of the reading D:
Mike, Lauren, and Chris, if you guys want another fun book series to read, the Artemis Fowl books are awesome 🙂 enjoy
I know Eoin Colfer 🙂 very well actually!
Thats awesome! 🙂 Tell him i love the Artemis Fowl series a bunch 🙂
Artemis Fowl rocks! I love the series to:)
same
Not to tangent more in the comments but I felt the AF series was very predictable and rigid in structure– just my opinion. Each occurred in different places generally but each time the fairies have to bail Artemis out, especially the main characters.
One of the book series I’ve read a bunch of! My literary tastes are so small.
Hah, in Mike’s story, that sounds like something Angela would say.
cunt
i dont think all elves cqan use magic because of something said in either eragon or eldest cant remember where though
i dont think all elves cqan use magic because of something said in either eragon or eldest cant remember where though
it is in eldest i’ve been reading ahead. 😀 but it said that while they can all feel the flow of magic strongly not all can use it and definitely not all can use it proficiently and with ease.
sweet good to no thx
i dont think all elves cqan use magic because of something said in either eragon or eldest cant remember where though
Spoiler
When arya sent the egg and it appeared before eragon, didn’t Oromis say in brisingr that it takes the same amount of energy to move the stone from here to the other side of the river as to the other side of alagasea. it is mentioned that trojheim was too far away, but this contradics what oromis says. I think its because that arya knew their was a traitor in trojheim?
That’s something that caught my attention as well. Your idea that Arya knew that there was a traitor makes a lot of sense. Obviously she would know that distance doesn’t matter in teleporting items. It may just be a little plot hole, maybe intentional so as not to confuse the readers (this being book 1 and all) with something that seems to totally contradict everything they have learned about IC magic.
i agree. arya obviously seemed to know that there was a traitor. she leaves it very clear that she doesn’t approve the twins’ actions, i guess she knew ever since the beginning that she could not completely trust them.
Plus, her actions towards the twins when they are testing Eragon and she confronts them suggests a history with them… and not the good kind.
uhum. and that’s make me wonder why she permitted the varden to trust them. remember that thought read in the podcast of examining the examiners ? that makes a lot of sense and Arya should have examined the Twins’ minds. i wonder why she didn’t.
She knew she could trust Brom explicitly him being an elf friend of the highest regard.
Thanks for letting me know that I have been saying Nasuada’s name wrong for the last 5 years lol. Also I think that when Durza respawns, he most likely respawns to Galbatorix’s castle, because with all of his power I am pretty sure that Galbatorix could make that happen. And not only that, but I think that if something went so FUBAR that Durza was forced to respawn, that Galbatorix would want to know what happened as soon as possible, so it makes sense to have Druza’s respawn point in his castle.
SPOILER WARNING
Excerpt from the chapter entitled Shadows of the Past in Brisingr near the end of the chapter or from pg. 213 and pg. 214 in my copy.”‘What,’ he asked and then had to cough and start over again, his throat was so dry. ‘What are they?’
(pg. 213) ‘Spirits,’ said Arya. She sat.
‘They didn’t look like the ones that came out of Durza when I killed him.’
‘Spirits can assume many different guises, dictated by their whim.'”…
…(pg. 214) “Her shoulders rose and fell. ‘Spirits have as much difficulty predicting our behavior as we do theirs. They share so little in common with the other races of Alagaesia, conversing with them in even the simplest terms is a challenging prospect, and any meeting is fraught with peril, for one never knows how they will react.'”
The first quote proves that the spirits encountered he are the same kind that made-up Durza, and, by extension, are the kind that sorcerers and shades draw their power from.
The 2nd quote, then, serves to show that they are very much their own species in the world in-which Alagaesia resides. This conclusion being drawn from the statement that spirits have a hard time understanding the other species of the land and said species shortage of understanding on how to deal with spirits.
This was in response to the theory that Morzan could have been one of the spirits that was in Durza. I would be happy if someone could prove me wrong because I think it’s an interesting theory.
One last thing I would put for your consideration is this question: If the spirits of some (perhaps not all?) beings remained in the mortal world, would it not be quite easy to repair the body and then coax (for lack of a better word) the spirit into its’ original body?
-Fairth
Idunno about this whole “morzan’s spirit being Durza”, because as you pointed out, spirits are not humans. They are a completely different species. Therefore not human/elf/urgal/dwarf/dragon etc. Nor where they ever.
Also someone bellow your comment pointed out, Morzan was Galby’s most trusted follower, and if youll remember Durza had his own ambition, having tried to talk Eragon into joining him instead of Galby.
eragon page 298
“…while im gone you would do well to think on who you would rather serve: a rider who betrayed your own order or a fellow man like me.”
Not the kind of thing you would expect to hear from a man who was supposedly Galbys fave. And he also denies any afilliation with the riders,talkbout the order with spite not with love as is expected from a rider
Just saying
(soz for spelling)
The Morzan theory is the most terrifying thing I’ve ever heard….
Oh, Mike, I’m so jealous of you. *curses the skies for someone else meeting Matt Smith* I tried getting into the signing at Amoeba, but only 200 people could get in. I was #207 . . . grrr . . .
LAUREN YOU MUST WATCH DOCTOR WHO!!!! ACK!!!
I’m working on it. I actually went to watch my first episode this morning, but my wi-fi is on the fritz, and Netflix couldn’t pick it up on my Wii… I’ll keep trying! Trust me, I am ready to see what it’s all about. A lot of my friends are into it, it’s about time I joined in the conversations! 🙂
oh ye! ya better do it 😀 wouldn’t it be awesome if you ‘n mike discuss doctor who stuff related to inheritance cycle? i’d just blow ^^’ jk.
i’m new in this tardis world too. i’m on the second season. it’s really great. you’ll like it.
For an odd reason, I get the strange feeling that the scene where Isidar Mithrim breaks seems very “fateful”. I really don’t know the word but like something alluding to the future.
Nasuada is actually my favorite human; I love her judgement and if I had to have someone sentence me to death it would be her. I never know why people don’t like her, she’s amazing.
spoilerish:
Because many people do not agree with what Nasuada did to Roran in Brisingr. I personally understand why she did what she did, but the majority of readers seem disagree with her actions, and they are not soon going to forgive her for it.
idk i don’t like her either. but i really admire her cleverness if i can say like this.
she’s a great leader. but sometimes like that one with roran.. i can’t help.
spoilerish:
Because many people do not agree with what Nasuada did to Roran in Brisingr. I personally understand why she did what she did, but the majority of readers seem disagree with her actions, and they are not soon going to forgive her for it.
i liked the theory that morzan was one of the spirites that was in durza, that would also kinda explain why galby trusted durza so much, because his most faithful servant was partly controling him
I almost peed my pants when Mike mentioned that there were only fifteen weeks left for book 4. YESH!!!!
Same here. Almost jumped off mu chair of pure surprise. Cause you’re always thinking that. “oh, it’s such a long time left” and never realise that for every day we’re moving closer to the release. I think it was really great for me to get that pointed out. 🙂
when does the interview go up?
Yes, finally!
Whoo!
that was an amazing comment about the chess board.
perfect description haahah
Thanks for posting! I’ve been anticipating this next podcast! 😀