“Big Twenty” – Is There Any Hope for the Future of Dragons?

The Big Twenty is Shur’tugal’s twenty week long series of in depth discussion and theorizing, all centered around twenty core questions, loose ends, and theories in the Inheritance universe. The Big Twenty is the ultimate fan guide to happenings in Book 4 — and we hope you’ll join us for the adventure! To learn more about the Big Twenty, view our announcement article.

Christopher’s recent revelation that “that’s it” – there are simply no other dragons
tied to Riders hidden from view – has left us all wondering whether or not dragons
have a future on Alagaësia. We know that the last dragon, hatching from the green
egg, is a male. The only female dragon (that we know of) is Saphira, meaning that
Saphira will need to choose to mate with the green dragon, Thorn, or Shruikan. But
will she do this, and will this be enough to save the future of the dragon race?

Dragons are on the brink of extinction in Alagaësia, and after the death of Glaedr,
only four dragons remain. This leaves Saphira in a unique position, since she is the
only female dragon left. And with Glaedr being the only dragon that Saphira has
had any extended period time with, we can only wonder what bonds she could form
with the male dragons who remain.

It is safe to assume that we can rule out Shruikan as a possible mate for Saphira.
Both Saphira and Eragon’s hatred for Galbatorix is too strong to overcome at this
point. We can assume that even if Shruikan somehow is not killed in the final
battle for Alagaësia, his mind would be too altered and warped to be involved with
Saphira.

A more likely candidate would be Thorn. They are nearly the same age, and we
know that Thorn and Murtagh are only acting evilly due to Galbatorix’s control over
them using their true names. If they could somehow escape his control, whether
through Galbatorix’s death or by changing their true names, they could live how
they want to and there could possibly be a relationship between Thorn and Saphira.
But will Saphira forgive Thorn for delivering the final blow to her mentor, Glaedr?
And can Eragon forgive Murtagh for killing Hrothgar? There are many obstacles to a
possible relationship between these dragons, but it is not out of the question at this
point.

The last, and most mysterious, candidate is the green dragon. Obviously, we know
next to nothing about this dragon at this point in the story besides the fact that it is
a male, green dragon. There are a few important questions concerning “Greeny”.
Most important of all is whether or not he will be sided with the Varden. This
could easily bloom into a relationship with Saphira if there was another dragon
on Eragon’s side, as evidenced with her easily crushing on Glaedr. But another
important question is, is Greeny already hatched when we end the story in
<i>Brisingr</i>, or is he only going to hatch in Inheritance? Could there
be time to even begin a relationship? And who would his rider be? Arya? Angela?
Roran? Or will it someone who would not side with the Varden? There are a
plethora of questions surrounding Greeny, but he is a worthy candidate for
Saphira’s future mate.

The future of the Dragons seems to all rest on Saphira. She has three eligible mates, but after a little analysis, we can definitely conclude that Shruikan is the least likely candidate in our choices. But with so many questions surrounding Thorn’s past
wrongs and Greeny’s unknown background, we are left with two equally weighted
possibilities for Saphira’s mate. But we know one thing for sure, Saphira and Eragon
must defeat Galbatorix in order for the procreation of the dragons to begin again.

This guest post was written by Chris Addison, senior staff member of Shurtugal.com, while Mike Macauley attends Comic-Con for Shur’tugal and Lytherus. Mike’s articles will return following Comic-Con!

  • Jubiegal320

    **SPOILER*** (Although this whole article is a spoiler)
    I think we should NOT  count out the wild dragons, after all, there is that theory about dragons living in the Spine. Perhaps she’ll want to find her family life FAR away from her war and work life?? Just a random theory I’m throwing out there. Maybe Christopher is only telling us the green dragon is male to throw us off course. Love to hear what you guys have to say!

  • nogare

    about the swords remeber broms sword is MIA so maybe the green rider will get his sword wich i could see eargon being ok with if its arya

  • Anonymous

    are there pink dragons in the past…..
    Just wondering.
    NO HOMO

  • AvaAnnaZ

    I think that it is most likely that Saphira and Greeny will mate, especially if Greeny is Arya’s dragon. Can you imagine how uncomfortable a relationship between Thorn and Saphira would be for Murtagh and Eragon? One thing that was not addressed in this article was future generations, as I don’t think Paolini would want to have in-breeding of Saphira’s children. So perhaps, at the end, if Eragon is indeed leaving with Arya, they are leaving in order to find dragons abroad, in other lands, and bring them to Alagaesia. Or to Vroengard? There may be dragons there…

    • Eragonfan2336

      i aggree with the first part, but not withe the second part. dragons are native to alegasiea, remember?

  • Sranjan 2007

    From what I remember CP said that there no more hidden dragons or eggs “connected to a rider”. which has a direct implication that wild dragons may still be there. Although if I have quoted wrongly then please notify/reply

  • CAM

    I going for the green one, not becuse I think it is the best but becuase that is what I see Christopher doing. I do like playing with this prediction though, very fun to imagine who will end up with who and what will happen there of.

  • CAM

    I going for the green one, not becuse I think it is the best but becuase that is what I see Christopher doing. I do like playing with this prediction though, very fun to imagine who will end up with who and what will happen there of.

  • David941104

    I dont get why noboddy takes Shruikan as a serious posibility as a mate to Saphira, people keep saying he’s braindamaged and unable to be Saphira’s mate since she wouldn’t respect him for this. The fact is that we know so little about Shruikan, all we know about Shruikan is what Oromis and Brom has told Eragon, we have never met him, I don’t really see why he can’t be imprissoned and enslaved but still fighting a losing battle against Galbatorix’s enslavement, Shruikan might still be at his minds full capacity but enslaved by Galbatorix, if Eragon would be able to separate Galbatorix from his Eldunari then Galbatorix might not be able to control Shruikan and so he will turn against Galbatorix and help Eragon and Saphira to kill him, if he does this Saphira might take a liking to him, besides, he has been enslaved for a long time and since I doubt Galbatorix would let Thorn or any of the foresworns dragons near him he will probably be drawn to Saphira like Saphira was drawn to Glaedr

  • David941104

    I dont get why noboddy takes Shruikan as a serious posibility as a mate to Saphira, people keep saying he’s braindamaged and unable to be Saphira’s mate since she wouldn’t respect him for this. The fact is that we know so little about Shruikan, all we know about Shruikan is what Oromis and Brom has told Eragon, we have never met him, I don’t really see why he can’t be imprissoned and enslaved but still fighting a losing battle against Galbatorix’s enslavement, Shruikan might still be at his minds full capacity but enslaved by Galbatorix, if Eragon would be able to separate Galbatorix from his Eldunari then Galbatorix might not be able to control Shruikan and so he will turn against Galbatorix and help Eragon and Saphira to kill him, if he does this Saphira might take a liking to him, besides, he has been enslaved for a long time and since I doubt Galbatorix would let Thorn or any of the foresworns dragons near him he will probably be drawn to Saphira like Saphira was drawn to Glaedr

    • I know how you feel I don’t know who side Shruikan is on but I want him to be on the good side with riders who would care and love him not directing him to do orders

    • I know how you feel I don’t know who side Shruikan is on but I want him to be on the good side with riders who would care and love him not directing him to do orders

  • David941104

    I dont get why noboddy takes Shruikan as a serious posibility as a mate to Saphira, people keep saying he’s braindamaged and unable to be Saphira’s mate since she wouldn’t respect him for this. The fact is that we know so little about Shruikan, all we know about Shruikan is what Oromis and Brom has told Eragon, we have never met him, I don’t really see why he can’t be imprissoned and enslaved but still fighting a losing battle against Galbatorix’s enslavement, Shruikan might still be at his minds full capacity but enslaved by Galbatorix, if Eragon would be able to separate Galbatorix from his Eldunari then Galbatorix might not be able to control Shruikan and so he will turn against Galbatorix and help Eragon and Saphira to kill him, if he does this Saphira might take a liking to him, besides, he has been enslaved for a long time and since I doubt Galbatorix would let Thorn or any of the foresworns dragons near him he will probably be drawn to Saphira like Saphira was drawn to Glaedr

  • Jackal

    I have decided to just post all my predictions. One is on topic. Here goes…
     
     
    1.       Arya has to be the new rider. The new Dragon is green, so is Arya’s magic (Eragon’s magic is blue, so is Saphira.) Eragon cannot afford to waste months training a new rider in swordsmanship, magic, meditation, graymare, and taking energy from your surroundings, and all but the latter Arya definitely knows. Also, the rider will have to be as fast as an elf or he/she will be at a major disadvantage against Murtagh and Galbutorix, and unable to keep up with Eragon in battle. Arya is an elf, therefore she is as fast as an elf.
    2.       The falling wall in the sneak peak will not kill Roran, as it would crush Eragon mentally, not to mention him physically. He CANNOT use magic to save himself, that would end his whole ‘Fighting without Magic’ thing, the thing that made Katrina call him the ‘greatest warrior of his age’, and for the same reason he cannot be the new Rider. Also, if he gets killed, then that will break his marriage promise of a farm and stuff in Palancar valley, and also who will help Katrina look after his kid?
    3.       When Galby has been overthrown, Orrin and Nausada will be King and Queen. Nausada has already considered marriage.
    4.       The vision of the people on the ship sailing away: the man and woman are Eragon and Arya, (possibly the new elf king and queen after Izlandi’s death, (which WILL happen,) or possibly Arya is queen and Rider, and as Riders cannot be leaders and she will have to leave,) surrounded by elves, (who are coming too,) leaving Alagaesia, going to Alaea, the elves original home, now that peace has been restored. Eragon comes too, because he can’t bear to be away from Arya, etc. etc. etc., and him leaving fulfils the ‘You are doomed to leave Alagaesia and never return’ prophecy of Angela’s. The man on the floor is Roran, devastated because Eragon, practically his brother, is leaving and he will never see him again.
    5.       Saphira will mate with the green dragon. Shruikan is way too twisted mentally, and Thorn is wrapped up in past wrongs. In fact, ‘Greeny’s unknown background’, what is actually unknown about it? And why should that be a problem? He’s a dragon who hasn’t killed any good guys yet as far as I know. And anyway, the ‘whether or not he will side with the Varden’ thing, for any doubters, he will. Let me put it this way: if he doesn’t, then Eragon and the Varden will get beaten into a bloody pulp. Therefore, he will. CP hasn’t spent all this time preparing the whole of Alagaesia for a massive final battle, Eragon and Saphira against Galby and his riders only for them to be outnumbered and crushed, and Galbutorix to extend his power over all Alagaesia, wipe out or drive away the elves, and crush the Beor Mountains to sand. Greeny is good and he will mate with Saphira and that’s the end of it.

    • Rainbowemoelk

      Murtagh couldn’t use magic at all and now his magic is red. It DOES NOT matter what color your magic is (if you can use magic at all) before you bond with your dragon. AFTER bonding however, your magic matches your dragon.

    • guest

      i agree with all except that roran is left on shore and yells back and that nasuada & orrin will be the rulers. Nasuda will be hated for siding with the urgals, and roran is acomplished in battle. all his soldiers have undying loyalty to him. Nasuada thought he was a threat because he could influence the villagers. The descendents of  King Palancar are the rightful line of kings. orrin enjoys his science better and would gladly relingquish the throne. Your comment was right on though.
       

    • I just thought of something- do all of the eggs have white lines? Maybe that might be a clue

      • CJ

        a clue to what?

        • a clue to might who their riders are or their past or something about the dragons ANYTHING

  • Jordox18

    You all forget that with only one female dragon, that Saphira’s children with have to either MATE with their mom or brother/sister to keep the dragons going……eww

    • Carlowen11

      Not if saphiras baby is a girl, in which case she can mate with thorn?

    • Eragonfan2336

      how could there be a mom if there is only one female dragon?

      • bear

        eh, Saphira is the mom?

      • bear

        eh, Saphira is the mom?

  • troll

    i think greeni will have to hatch for arya and greeni and saphira will have to be with eachother cause CP said he kills characters (roran dosent die at wall he is alive in king cat chapter) so most likey thorn and murtagh (his editor cried meaning likeable characters died) AND DONT FORGET THAT THE BOOKS MENTION THAT if a dragon or rider has storng enough feelings for a person the other will feel the same way so that would bring eragon and arya closer at the same time as saphira and greeni

    but all that dosent change the fact that if roran became the next dragon rider HE WOULD BE THE GREATEST RIDER EVAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    now i challenge you all to predict what the dragons name is
    good luck (laughs creepily)

  • Robbybarr1994

    i honestly think that its gonna be the green dragon because i think murtaugh and thorn are gonna die

  • Coolio310

    The Greeny cos I think Arya’s going to be the next Rider and Greeny will be Arya’s dragon so if Eragon+Arya’s gonna be real, then Saphira+Greeny might be possible

  • the way it is

    they have to continue, because the fate of both the elves and humans are tied to the dragons due to the blood oath ritual. If dragons go so do the elves and humans. If this happens then it the dwarfs alone in the world.

  • CoolManColeCAM

    I am thinking the “Greeny”

  • that would be weird- kevin,eldest,brisingr,and inheritance

  • Anonymous

    “There are no other dragons tied to the Riders”. Meaning that there still may be wild dragons; Alagaësia is a big place and there could easily be a few in hiding somewhere, possibly even another female. However, i think the most “obvious” conclusion will be that Arya is the green dragon rider, which will pave the way for a relationship both between her and Eragon and between Saphira and Greeny. Could easily be wrong though.

  • Rainbowemoelk

    Could Thorn or Greenie possibly Shruikan’s kid?
    Think about it: The middle of a war, Glabatorix killing off dragons left and right, yet he still wants future dragons under HIS control. Wouldn’t it make sense if Greenie or Thorn (or both) were offspring of a captured (now deceased) dragon?
    Or Greenie being Gleadr’s child? Notice the GOLD eye instead of green.

    • Matt

      Sweet idea dude, I like the idea of the green dragon being Gleadr’s offspring.

      • ok if it was then who was the mother…

        • Rainbowemoelk

          Does it matter? The dragon egg was produced during or before the Fall, the mother is most likely dead.

          • I don’t care if it matters to you but to me it matters

          • Rainbowemoelk

            If Greeni is Gleadr’s son and Eragon/Saphira find out then it’ll probably be revealed through Gleadr’s eldunari.

          • wait i thought it didnt matter to you

          • Rainbowemoelk

            If Greeni is Gleadr’s son and Eragon/Saphira find out then it’ll probably be revealed through Gleadr’s eldunari.

          • Rainbowemoelk

            If Greeni is Gleadr’s son and Eragon/Saphira find out then it’ll probably be revealed through Gleadr’s eldunari.

        • Ebuchanan70

          Brom’s dragon Saphira could be the mother. She was blue, Gleadr is gold/yellow. Blue plus yellow makes green.

      • RSD

        Yeah and Saphira liked Gleadr, Greeny may be very similar!

    • Gum Jacket

      Well spotted, and you’re right. All the dragons featured before Greeny have had eyes the same color as their scales, but Greeny has gold eyes. Your theory makes sense but it could also be a coincidence…

      • bone

        where is the reference for the green dragon having gold eyes? i hadn’t heard that yet

        • Rainbowemoelk

          On the cover . . .

    • Britishfella

      his scales have a slight golden hue as well 🙂

  • Sherryroberts1967

    Wild dragons in the spine or in the desert, that is what I am thinking.  Didnt they say that some of the dragon riders dragons mated with wild dragons?  If they did then maybe all of eggs havent hatched yet and are hidden (in VOS ?)  I believe that they said with foresworn and Gaby killed all of the dragon riders but I dont think it said they killed all of the wild dragons.

    • Rainbowemoelk

      I’d never heard that theory before, dragon eggs in the VoS, I like that. It would make a lot of since. It might be a big hoard of dragon eggs, helping the dragons live on.
      Although, I believe all of the wild dragons are now dead, if I were Galby, I’d hunt every single one down.

      • troll

        its sense not since SENSE not since
        anyways
        CP SAID THAT THERE ARE NO MORE DRAGONS OR EGGS
        THERE ARE ONLY FOUR LEFT!!!!!!!
        FFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUU–

    • RSD

      If they did, then could there be sort of like, half wild dragons? Then they might be more inclined to join if there was a battle! ..Maybe.

  • RSD

    I’ve mentioned before that I it could be Nasuada. She carries a jeweled dagger around, this could be her weapon, or do new riders get/need a new weapon? I’m not sure/can’t remember..

    Or she could perhaps obtain/ INHERIT a sword from a lost relative who knows of her origins, as this is unknown.. her and Ajihad are said to have been from the Hadarac Desert (where i’ve seen mentioned before is where Saphira enjoyed being, and so may have other dragons) and we do not know anything about her mother, who might play an important role.. 
    Her father also met with both Morzan and Durza. He was also a close friend of Brom’s. It’s said that part of Ajihad’s past will be revealed, so maybe Nasuada has a link to a previous rider?

    • Rainbowemoelk

      New riders get a weapon at the end of their training, but Nasuada probably won’t have enough time (and Runon has to work through her, she’s too slow and not strong enough, or someone else), so she’ll either get Arva (I think that’s the green swords name) or something else.

      • RSD

        Hmm yeah, it will depend on her origins! We don’t know who her mother is! 

      • Eschwartz

        rhunon could make it through eragon or another elf

      • Jackal

        The green sword is Tamerlien, Arva was it’s first owner.

  • Harry59

    When Grenny hatches and we have a new rider, what weapon will they use? We know that Eragon had so much trouble when Murtagh took Morzan’s sword. He found out he had to have dragon’s rider sword ,so where will Grenny’s rider get one? This leads me to think maybe the owners of the other two swords, that are not in Galbaatorix control, may have someone in their families, that has been in all three books, may be Greeny’s rider.

    • Sherryroberts1967

      I could be wrong, but I think it may have said that there was enough of the metal left to make several more swords.

      • Kathryn

        Yes, Rhunon told Eragon that there was enough brightsteel to make 10 swords. Also, the owners of the other two swords, nor any of their family members as far as we know, have been in all three books thus far. We only saw one of them in “Brisingr”, the holder of Tamerlin, and we never met the other.

        And since Eragon got so much brightsteel from the Menoa tree there’s no reason why the new rider can’t have their own green sword.

        • Lil Uhura

          I may be wrong, but “several swords” is what I remember Rhunon telling Eragon.  That means only 2 or 3 of them at the most.

          • Kathryn

            You’re right. It’s several swords; I’m not sure where I got ten from. That being said, CP can define “several” in whatever way he wants. Officially, it means “more than two but fewer than many”.

            Either way, there’s more than enough brightsteel to make a sword for the new Rider, whoever it may be.

          • Yellowwired

            Is there time for this? They will have to get to the city to make the sword and that not considering how much time has already passed to get to this point in the book (Capturing the green egg and finding it’s rider).

          • Kathryn

            Well, we don’t know that they’ll capture the green egg. It could be that it will hatch for someone while still in Galbatorix’s control and then escape. There are hundreds of possible scenarios for that.

            Also consider that it takes only a few days for a dragon to fly to Ellesmera (assuming Rhunon is still there), and Rhunon made Brisingr in less than 24 hours. She mentioned that she didn’t like doing it that fast, but it is perfectly reasonable to think she would do it again if needed.

          • troll

            im quite sure i remember the exact number being 7 more swords not several mabye you guys read it wrong mabye i did
            someone go back and re-read cause my dads reading my IC books
            annnnd im reading hunger games series thru again in preparation for the movie coming out next year
            BUT more important
            NOVEMBER 8th FTW GO INHERITANCE YEAH

          • Sranjan 2007

            7 swords is what rhunon made with her last stock of brightsteel

      • That is right also

    • I think the elf that had handed the green sword to Eragon in Brisingr, might give the sword to the green rider

  • Horsegal4ever

    ‘no dragons left connected to riders.’ Connected to riders being the key term here. Brom wasn’t connected to a dragon. He wasn’t a rider in the series. A past rider, but not present. Yes, I believe a hundred fifty percent there is at least one more ‘real’ dragon out there, not eldunari, and most likely ancient, but out there, in the Spine, THE Spine, or in the beor mountains.

    • I was thinking somewhere in the Hadarac Desert I mean they just went a path they didn’t really explore the place very well

    • troll

      explains why spine is so terrifying and why galbys troops went missing

  • Matt

    Maybe if the new rider is Arya she will name the dragon Faolin after the elf. Think her and Faolin traveled everywhere together just as her and her new dragon will.

    • Kathryn

      I don’t think she would do that. For one thing, dragons choose their names. Eragon consulted with Saphira and she was the one who decided on the final name. Second, that would be such a slap in the face to Eragon. She may not currently return his feelings, but she doesn’t hate him. Elven culture teaches extreme curtesy because grudges and offenses can be held against you for years. I can’t even in my wildest dreams imagine Arya being so rude to someone that she cares deeply for.

    • Arya<3

      Haha Eragon would be so pissed.Also, Faolin would be a bad name for a dragon.

  • SpiritTamer

    Maybe the dream was just a dream, or was real, but I think it won’t be Eragon. I think when she says he’s destined to leave Alagasia forever, maybe she meant him dying?

    • Kathryn

      Not likely. The prophecy carries such importance in the series, and it has to be completed in its entirety before the end of the book. We know Eragon is not going to die for two reasons. First, the very first part of the prophecy is that Eragon will have an “extraordinarily long life” and possibly live forever.

      Second, “Eragon’s Guide to Alagaesia” is written from a post-Empire perspective. All references to the Empire in the book use past-tense verbs and adverbs. CP made a point of saying that there were clues to the final book in the Guide, so it was written that way for a reason. It shows that Eragon will live past the events of “Inheritance.”

    • Eschwartz

      then that prophecy could be made of every person ever to exist, and would have been. “leave alagaesia never to return” does not imply “oh, someday you will die”

  • Ihtjkbremyswnaf

    Can Greeny be Saphira’s brother?

    • Kathryn

      It’s not absolutely impossible, but it’s not very likely either. Saphira was in her egg for something like 1000 years before she hatched for Eragon. Plus, it’s unlikely that of all the dragons’ eggs that were given to the Riders in that amount of time the two eggs that are “related” to each other are both stolen by Galbatorix. The chances are miniscule, at best.

      • Matt

        Not possible. Saphira was the only egg that her parents gave to the riders, ever. Glaedr said so in Eldest.

        • Kathryn

          But that doesn’t mean that Vervada or Iormungr didn’t mate with other dragons. In which case the green dragon would be Saphira’s half-brother. It’s not likely, but it’s not impossible either.

          And where did everyone get the idea that dragons mate for life?

          • if dragons care who they mate with then it would be awkward to mate with your step brother

          • troll

            she would still have to
            😛

          • poor saphira- her whole race is on HER shoulders

  • Killerhawk

    “there are simply no other dragons tied to Riders hidden from view” this doesn’t mean that there are no other dragons that we don’t know of. The’re just not tied to a rider. I think that there are some wild dragons that we don’t know about living somewhere in the spine. That also explains why Galby’s army dissapeared when venturing in the spine. If this is the case i should not be a problem for saphira’s children to mate and the dragon race will surely survive

  • Killerhawk

    “there are simply no other dragons tied to Riders hidden from view” this doesn’t mean that there are no other dragons that we don’t know of. The’re just not tied to a rider. I think that there are some wild dragons that we don’t know about living somewhere in the spine. That also explains why Galby’s army dissapeared when venturing in the spine. If this is the case i should not be a problem for saphira’s children to mate and the dragon race will surely survive

  • random guy123

    saphira forgives thorn for delivering the final blow to her mentor.
    WHAT??????

  • Anonymous

    Everyone is saying that even if saphira does mate who are her babies going to mate with, well there is more then just one male dragon there are three. i think shruikan is out but i think greeny will be good and i think that murtagh will become good so saphira will mate with either greeny or thorn and whom ever is left that saphira didnt mate with, her children will

    • Horsegal4ever

      And honestly, if it came to mating with siblings or letting the dragon race die out, I think they would mate with siblings. Gross as it sounds, it happened for Adam and Eve’s kids, for those of you who believe in that stuff.

  • Eternal Rider

    Considering that Saphira does mate with another dragons she would need both female and  male hatchlings (I think Ormis said that dragons normally have 5 – 7 eggs)and I doubt they would think on mating with their siblings. Even if there were other dragons left in Alagesia for Saphiras hatchlings to mate with the other dragons would probably be too old to mate with. So in a way its kinda the hatchlings option to decide the fate of dragons. Can someone correct me. (i dont like the idea of no dragons left.)
    Sorry for any spelling mistakes:)  

    • I dont know for sure but what Kathryn is suggesting above the fact that they dont care who they mate with they probaly might

  • Lcollins7

    I’m a Saphira/Thorn shipper. Thorn is under a spell thanks to Galby. Thus, when Thorn killed Glaedr, it wasn’t really Thorn, but Galby.

  • dragonchick88

    it most likely wouldnt be roran considering he is so bound to alagaesia and katrina and his future home in the valley. if anything, roran could become the next king.

  • Xxxxxx

    greeny’s rider will probably not be angela- christopher paolini said shes not an official charecter, just based on his sister.

    it’ll probably either roran or arya- ayra because she is an elf and knows magic already, roran because he is eragon’s cousin and that would mean this would be eragon, murtagh, roran, and galbatorix.

    then again, i could be someone as unexpected as nasuada or orik!

    • Lantern13

      it will not be a dwarf, as dragons can’t bond with them. Angela became an “official” character when paolini decided that angela was fun to write, and when he learned that everybody likes her.

    • Kathryn

      When did CP say Angela wasn’t an official character? He has said that she started out as a joke on his sister, but he made a point of saying that she has developed into someone important to the story. She will have several moments of awesomeness in “Inheritance” according to CP.

  • Sherryroberts1967

    I can’t remember, does it ever say who Shruikan’s original rider was?  Did Gaby have Shruikan before or after Morzan teamed up with him to form the forsworn and kill the other riders?

    • Lantern13

      No. I believe Morzan killed the original right after (or close enough) shruikan hatched.

  • Arya<3

    Question… Galbatorix is said to be immortal. But C.P. said that when a Rider’s dragon dies, the Rider will not be immortal, rather have an extended life. Since Galby fake bonded with Shruikan is he really immortal or is he getting old?

    • Sherryroberts1967

      I think that he is using spells to protect himself, like how Oromis used them to help protect himself (well for as long as he could) and just a theory but maybe he is “drawing” energy somehow also.  I think that somehow Gaby has control over spirits… kinda like a shade.
       

      • Majialei

        Even though his dragon died, he is bonded to Shruikan (be it with twisted magic) so I think he is probably immortal because he IS a dragon rider.  Of course it really depends on what magic he used to force the bond between him and Shruikan.  Technically Shruikan should have died when his real rider died, but he didn’t.  So, they must be pretty closely bonded, Shruikan and Galbatorix.

      • Majialei

        Even though his dragon died, he is bonded to Shruikan (be it with twisted magic) so I think he is probably immortal because he IS a dragon rider.  Of course it really depends on what magic he used to force the bond between him and Shruikan.  Technically Shruikan should have died when his real rider died, but he didn’t.  So, they must be pretty closely bonded, Shruikan and Galbatorix.

        • Sherryroberts1967

          I sure am hoping that Shruikan is only bonded with Gabys magic (which I think is dark magic) … hoping that Gaby dies and that Shruikan is free and that he turns out to be good or maybe a wild dragon and helps to restore peace.  I would think that maybe Shruikan would be resentful and hate Gaby for forcing him to bond after they killed his original rider … yeah I know that is ALOT of hoping. 

        • Eschwartz

          the bond is like this-he has shruikans eldunari and uses it to control him. any magician can do the same, imposing his consciousness on the eldunari to control its owner. the fact taht he is immortal just goes to show that CP never said riders who lost their dragon arent immortal any more

        • Rainbowemoelk

          No, Shruikan still would’ve lived if Galby hadn’t taken him.
          “If a rider dies, so does his dragon.”-Was NO WHERE in the books. A dragon CAN live on.

        • Rainbowemoelk

          No, Shruikan still would’ve lived if Galby hadn’t taken him.
          “If a rider dies, so does his dragon.”-Was NO WHERE in the books. A dragon CAN live on.

        • Rainbowemoelk

          No, Shruikan still would’ve lived if Galby hadn’t taken him.
          “If a rider dies, so does his dragon.”-Was NO WHERE in the books. A dragon CAN live on.

    • Deryk1490

      you also have to think about the tons of eldunari dudes got stocked up.

      • Sherryroberts1967

        extactly , that is what i think he is drawing from

      • Sherryroberts1967

        extactly , that is what i think he is drawing from

    • Eschwartz

      no he never said that

    • Eschwartz

      no he never said that

  • Jackal

    I reckon that Saphira will mate with the green dragon and as dragons are magical there will be no gene pool problem.

  • Anonymous

    I am pretty sure it was mentioned that Shruikan is insane, after having his rider killed(I believe galby stole a hatch-ling?) and galby forcing a bond between them. I think if Shruikan breaks free, or is freed via galby’s death. He will become a wild dragon.

    • Rainbowemoelk

      I think Shrukian is sane, but he can’t think for himself anymore because of all the spells Galby has placed on him, that and Galby has his HoH.

  • Deryk1490

    Does anybody know if eldunari have an easier way of being stored? i mean Glaedr’s is almost a foot across how does murtagh hide his….do they shrink and get swallowed my the rider or dragon? just would like to know your opinions.

    • Kathryn

      This is not really relevant to the article, but the eldunari are probably not all the same size. I’m sure it depends at least partially on the age and size of the dragon.

      • Deryk1490

        well then wouldnt that pose an even bigger problem then because the older and bigger the dragon the larger the eldunari and all of the other eldunari are either from the fall of the riders or before so i would assume they would be larger than or equal o glaedr

        • Kathryn

          Not necessarily. It would depend on the age and/or size of the dragon when he or she released their eldunari. Not all dragons were old and large when Galbatorix rebelled. And if you remember, Oromis said that it became common for the dragons to give their eldunari to the riders for convenience’s sake. So I imagine that most of the dragons had released their eldunari prior to the downfall of the riders.

    • Anonymous

      I have wondered that same thing, mainly because I wondered if brom’s ring might be the first sapphira’s eldunari? I know that there are alot of problems with that theory. a) too small b) brom gave it to the runner to the varden, etc. But it is a very cool thought.

      • Anonymous

        I agree, but sadly Christopher said in an interview that if it was saphiras eldunari, then eragon would have felt her conciousness when he felt it in Brisingr

      • Lissa

        That’s couldn’t be true either way, if it was saphira’s egg or the first saphira’s enudnari. Oromis said that brom went kinda crazy after his Saphira died, implying she died a true and complete death. Also, Eragon’s Saphira’s egg is currently buried or hidden somewhere on the ruins of Roran’s farm in carvahall.

        • Eschwartz

          YES!!!!! finally someone who understands that brom would feel an eldunari-saphira even without being “taught” about them

        • I still like the way he/her had creativity at least give him/her credit for that

    • Anonymous

      I have wondered that same thing, mainly because I wondered if brom’s ring might be the first sapphira’s eldunari? I know that there are alot of problems with that theory. a) too small b) brom gave it to the runner to the varden, etc. But it is a very cool thought.

  • Sumitlali

    Awesomeness

  • . . .Or you guys could theorize in a better place, like…I don’t know? The forums? 

    • Kathryn

      Why? That’s what the comments section is for: for fans to theorize and discuss the comments in the article. Don’t like it? Don’t read it.

      • Eschwartz

        but still theres a difference between theorizing and simply being stupid. its like theorizing that the sky in alagaesia is purple

  • The Grey Rider

    Or,-and this would really urk me if this ACTUALLY happens,- the vision Saphira has in Brisingr is her being spirited away by an extraterrestrial dragon ‘cousin’ species, or that dragons exist on another world, and they decide to take the remainder of their lost kin back to their homeworld.

    If you look at it that way the ‘land’ the elves came from originally could be another planet, and they’ve forgotten their technological background ala Dragonriders of Pern.

  • The Grey Rider

    Or,-and this would really urk me if this ACTUALLY happens,- the vision Saphira has in Brisingr is her being spirited away by an extraterrestrial dragon ‘cousin’ species, or that dragons exist on another world, and they decide to take the remainder of their lost kin back to their homeworld.

    If you look at it that way the ‘land’ the elves came from originally could be another planet, and they’ve forgotten their technological background ala Dragonriders of Pern.

    • Kathryn

      Uh, no. First, I don’t have my books with me so I can’t be sure but I don’t remember Saphira having a vision in any of the books. Are you confusing her with Eragon? Second, that would be completely random. I made this comment for one of the other Big Twenty articles, but “Inheritance” will mostly be about tying up loose ends. The clues are already in the previous books and the last one will show us how all these given pieces fit together. This sci-fi extraterrestrial theory is completely wrong when you take the given information into consideration.

      Another comment I made in a previous article that seems to bear repeating here: While there be be similarities between the Inheritance Cycle and Dragonriders of Pern you can by no means attribute plot lines and character personalities from one series to the other. They are each their own stories.

      • Lalala

        Saphira has a “vision” during a dream in Brisingr, while Eragon is with the Dwarves. She’s high in the sky, and feels alone, then asks “Eragon, where are you?”

        • Kathryn

          Ah, yes. I remember now. Well, I wouldn’t call that a vision. A premonition maybe, but not a vision. She dreams of flying as high as the stars and past the moon. We know for a fact it’s not possible for her to actually fly this high. She can’t even fly high enough to look over the Beor Mountains. She tried in the first book, and she and Eragon ran out of oxygen.

          • The Grey Rider

            It IS a way of interpreting that dream, whatever it was, and I’m fervently hoping it won’t happen, but with the description of the Ra’zac, the only option left for them is ‘alien’, so there’s a damn good chance that other sci-fi elements might crop up.
            I just hope it isn’t the one I mentioned.

          • Kathryn

            The Razac weren’t aliens. You should go re-read “Eldest.” Eragon and Oromis have a conversation about the Razac where Oromis explains their life cycle and that they came across the sea from the same place the humans came from.

            The Inheritance Cycle isn’t sci-fi. It’s fantasy.

          • Eschwartz

            its a freaking dream. dreams happen. they dont mean anything. end of story.

            there was no special clarity about it to say it was a vision OR a premonition.it is most likely just her subconscious expressing the fact that she missed eragon

  • Noodley

    I think Arya will be Greeny’s rider and Greeny and Sapira will mate, therefore Saphira wouldn’t feel so awkward about Eragon liking Arya because Saphira and Greeny will feel the same way.

    • Kathryn

      Saphira doesn’t feel awkward about Eragon liking Arya. She thinks it’s tragic since Arya doesn’t return his love (at the moment), but nowhere does it say that Saphira feels awkward about it.

      Also, there is no evidence that dragons have to be in love in order to mate, or that they mate for life. At this point, I see no reason why Saphira couldn’t mate with any or all of the three male dragons currently known to us. In fact it makes more sense, logically, that she mate with as many males as possible.

      • Arya<3

        I agree. The same thing is with the elves. Arya or someone said that Elves do not mate for life, they can mate with as many people as they can. Since they are bonded with the dragons they are similar.

        • thinker

          Bear with me here… I think that   Eragon’s one true love is Arya, but
          that she feels that she should not, can not reciprocate those feelings.
          However, in book 4 there is going to be mutual suffering and sadness on a
          grand scale, and nothing brings people together like shared pain. Allow
          me to digress for a moment to explain something.

          Throughout the
          series there are scenes of akwardness on both sides regarding their
          relationship (such as when Eragon and Arya share the room at the inn).
          This works excellently to build up an atmosphere of unresolved sexual
          tension, that when combined with the suffering creates passion for each
          other on both sides. Arya will in the heat of this passion come to FEEL
          her love for Eragon as opposed to THINKING it.
          Though what I’m about
          to say will seem a little convoluted, my reasons for it actually take up
          a whole page… Bottom line, the sexual tension will be resolved in a
          very intimate night (that also is the end of Arya’s feeling and the
          start of her thinking again) and Arya will be pregnant with Eragon’s
          child.

          The next morning, Arya will sense the child’s “thoughts”
          and realize what happened. Eragon and Arya will first grow more distant
          then come together over the child and share a closeness like a family
          (along with Saphira, of course).
          Now I’d like you to remember that
          elf children are the most powerful members of there race and the scene
          in Brisingr where the elf children and Maud watch Eragon in Rhunon’s
          forge. I would also like you to recall the Urgal legend that Eragon was
          told by Nar Garhzvog.

          Enter the Menoa tree: There are many, many
          similarities between the Urgal legend and what happened between Eragon
          and the Menoa Tree. I personally think that the “pinch” that Eragon felt
          was like the signing of an unbreakable “contract.” The Tree could
          harness the power and grace of the elf child in many ways to help
          herself and the forest, maybe going so far as to make it a part of the
          forest.
          Keep in mind that Arya’s pregnancy does not necessarily have
          to be nine months. Being that she, Eragon, and the child are all
          magical, perhaps the process is expedited sort of like how Eragon
          condensed months of growing for a flower into many minutes, though not
          as drastic.

          After the Menoa Tree takes the child Eragon and Arya
          will once again grow distant, and after Galbatorix is toppled, Eragon
          will have nothing left for him in Alagaesia and will leave forevermore.
          If Arya is with him is questionable.

          Feel free to tell what you think about my theory and what you think, I’d love to hear it!

    • Kathryn

      Saphira doesn’t feel awkward about Eragon liking Arya. She thinks it’s tragic since Arya doesn’t return his love (at the moment), but nowhere does it say that Saphira feels awkward about it.

      Also, there is no evidence that dragons have to be in love in order to mate, or that they mate for life. At this point, I see no reason why Saphira couldn’t mate with any or all of the three male dragons currently known to us. In fact it makes more sense, logically, that she mate with as many males as possible.

  • p.i.m.c!

    my theory is that Roran will b Greeny’s dragon rider but after the war he will decline the position for his love of Katrina so when Eragon leaves with the elves (supposedly) it will be Roran who is left on the shore watching his brother & dragon go. Greeny & Saphira will become mates. I really don’t think Arya will be the next rider because i think if she was worthy to b a dragon rider, Saphira would have hatched for her while she delivered the egg and CP has said that she could have hatched for Murtagh and he is was certainly not more powerful than Arya (pre-Thorn, of course). Also CP said his original idea behind the series was centered around three brothers. Three eggs, three brothers….

    If Greeny does not hatch for Roran, my next bid would be Nasuada since CP has also mentioned that both of these characters developed differently from his original plan. Perhaps they have switched roles.

    • Kathryn

      I don’t think this theory is possible. Roran would have to refuse to become a rider from the get-go. He couldn’t win the war as a rider and then choose to turn his back on it. There has been only one person who was chosen and then decided not to become a rider, and that story is described as “tragic.” Once the bond is created, it seems to be nearly impossible to reject. I mean, look how hard it is for Eragon and Saphira to be separated for just a few days.

      • Eschwartz

        where did you hear that story from?!?!?!?!??!

      • Eschwartz

        where did you hear that story from?!?!?!?!??!

      • Eschwartz

        where did you hear that story from?!?!?!?!??!

    • Anonymous

      It has nothing to do with Arya not being “worthy” to be a rider (which I believe she is!). A dragon could chose a person who has been passed by, by 10 other dragon eggs. It is about who the Dragon thinks is the right person to be their rider.

    • Zoranna

      I doubt Roran would even touch the egg with fear of becoming immortal and out-living his love that he pretty much died for a couple times and risked his life for more than once.

    • Jackal

      YOU CAN’T DECLINE BEING A RIDER!!!

      • I agree with Jackal because Eragon didnt want to be a rider because of Garrow’s death but he still had to go on

  • I don’t think that Thorn will survive past the end of Inheritance. I just don’t see away that could happen. That leaves Shurikan and Greeny. Dispite the fact that Chris writes him off so easily, I think that there is a distinct possiblity that Shurikan will be the one that saves the Dragons. It would be an interesting way for him to sort of pay pennance if you will. Granted, I also believe that Shurikan will break free of Galby’s force bond, and be his downfall, but that’s just what I think

    • Rainbowemoelk

      I think it’s more likely that Shrukian dies than Thorn.

  • Matt

    I think Martaug/Thorn will bring the last egg to the varden having changed their true names very close to the beginning of the book (CP did say their would be a lot more of them in this book, maybe that’s why). They may not stay to help and go into hiding more for the trouble they’ve caused and having the empire trying to get them back and the dwarves hating them. If it happens Eragon may not even tell the varden who it was who brought the egg, or may tell them that the werecats stole it (another possible way that the egg may be brought to the varden).

  • Matt

    I think Martaug/Thorn will bring the last egg to the varden having changed their true names very close to the beginning of the book (CP did say their would be a lot more of them in this book, maybe that’s why). They may not stay to help and go into hiding more for the trouble they’ve caused and having the empire trying to get them back and the dwarves hating them. If it happens Eragon may not even tell the varden who it was who brought the egg, or may tell them that the werecats stole it (another possible way that the egg may be brought to the varden).

  • Matt

    I really hope/think that Shruikan will not be killed in the final fight. I think that possibly what Eragon/Saphira may focus on while fighting them is breaking the magic that has confined him for so long instead of going for Galbatorix directly (it would probably be much easier). It would be cool to see him and saphira mate but it probably won’t happen. He may even after being released ask for Eragon and Saphira to kill him. Given Eragon’s behavior in the past I don’t think that Saphira and Eragon will be able to bring themselves to kill him if they can’t help it in the final fight.

    • Matt

      Breaking the magic between Galbatorix and Shruikan would certainly turn the odds in Eragon and Saphira’s favor (he now has to fight two dragons and a rider).

    • Matt

      Breaking the magic between Galbatorix and Shruikan would certainly turn the odds in Eragon and Saphira’s favor (he now has to fight two dragons and a rider).

    • Rainbowemoelk

      But remember: Galbatorix used dark magic, AND he has Shruikan’s HoH (most likely), making it pretty much impossible to break away.

  • Naegling

    My guess is she will mate with Thorn. Yeah, there’s the issue of he killed Glaedr, but you know something? We don’t know that. For all we know, it could’ve been Murtagh. It says in Brisingr that Glaedr felt a “sharp pain at the base of his skull” or something like that. With a big crushing bite from a dragon (who cares if it’s 3 times smaller than him), I don’t think that would be a sharp pain. But a blow from a sword, maybe. And that’s what I’m leaning towards. Saphira won’t have to forgive Thorn. Murtagh will probably die redeeming himself, taking him out of the equation

    • Kathryn

      Have you ever been bitten by a dog or cat? I would definitely describe the teeth sinking into my skin as a “sharp pain.” Also, the dragons’ teeth are described as being sharp as knives. I would think feeling multiple stab-like wounds would qualify as a “sharp pain.”

  • Yeah

    My guess would either be Nolfavrel the kid from Carvahal as he was in all three books as far as i could see and he would be young enough and would have all the traits dragons usually look for (courage, strength, ect, since he did fight the empire and pirate a ship). But I think CP is probably gonna surprise us all like he usually does. (Did anybody seriously see Murtagh coming?) As for the wild dragon theory I think there are Wild Dragons in the Spine and thats what killed off half of Galbys army and really why nobody usually can last for any long period of time in the spine. It would also make sense as to why Eragon was on of the ones that could go into the spine and survive, cause the wild dragons (even though being independent of the riders pact) are still magical and could at some level feel he was the son of a rider and most likely not  a threat to them. And if there are any Dragon in the spine there wouldn’t be that many. Enough to kill off half of Galbys army, but small enough to escape detection. So anywhere from 50 to 100 no more no less. If they do exist that is.

    • Kathryn

      I don’t remember him being mentioned specifically in “Brisingr.” He may not even be with the Varden at this point. If you remember, it mentions in “Brisingr” that some of the Carvahall villagers chose to live in Surda instead of continuing with the Varden. With Nolfavrel not being mentioned by name we have no way to know whether he stayed with the Varden or left for Surda.

      • Yeah

        But in Brisingr it does his mother is there, she thanks Eragon when he comes back from defeating the Razac, and his mother doesn’t seem like someone who would leave her son behind. She seems like someone who want to keep a constant eye on him  (she doesn’t to loose him too) despite the fact that they’re in the middle of an army.

        • Kathryn

          Regardless of whether Nolfavrel is with the Varden, the new Rider is someone who has been in all three books. Nolfavrel wasn’t in Brisingr so it can’t be him. If you want to make the argument that he was there he just wasn’t mentioned then you have to make the same argument for EVERY SINGLE CHARACTER who ever got mentioned in the series.

          • Yeah

            Hmm yeah you do have a point there. But I am still entitled to my opinion, and I like the idea of Nolfavrel it’s more refreshing than the same old “It’s Arya” “It’s Roran”. I am aware that I am most likely wrong, but it’s still a new name to add to the mix.

          • Kathryn

            You are entitled to your opinion. However (and no offense), if you continue to hold onto a theory when all the given information clearly proves said theory wrong it is equivalent to insisting to believe the sky is yellow. Sometimes what we come up with just doesn’t work, however new and refreshing it might be. 🙂

    • Lil Uhura

      Does anyone remember that savage & war-loving Urgals live all throughout the Spine?  Their existence is a much more logical reason as to why Galbatorix lost half his army in there than “the dragons did it”.

      • Kathryn

        If that were true then why is it a mystery? Why didn’t the other half of the army just come out of the Spine and say, “Urgals killed half our men?” It’s a mystery because there is no logical answer.

        • Rainbowemoelk

          Kathryn- If that is true then why is it a mystery? Why didn’t the other half of the army just come out of the Spine and say,”DRAGONS killed half our men?”

          • Kathryn

            First of all, I didn’t say anything about dragons killing half the army. I find that to be the most likely theory based on the information we are given in the books, but CP could very well surprise us. But I wasn’t the one who brought up dragons in the Spine. Second, if it was a dragon it’s not completely unreasonable to think that he or she killed the army with magic. I mean if there is a dragon in the Spine then it managed to hide all these years. I’m sure it could kill half an army without being seen.

            I find this much more likely because Urgals are not at all skulk-y when it comes to fighting. If they had been the ones to kill the soldiers then it would have been done in the open with war cries and hand-to-hand combat. Their culture teaches that attacking and killing in battle is a source of pride and status. A village of Urgals attacking the army is something that the surviving half would have remembered.

          • Kathryn

            On a side note, you can disagree with me or question my logic without mocking me. That’s rude.

          • Rainbowemoelk

            I wasn’t meaning to mock you, I was stating that you’re argument could go both ways.

    • Miya

      I like the idea that Nolfavrel could be a dragon rider, and who knows , maybe? he’s really tough and that would be a bit more surprising then like Roran. As to wat Kathryn said, about him not being mentioned, i thought he was? I don’t know, he could come join the army if he wasnt in Brisingr. I really enjoyed him in Eldest (though it was horrible what happened to his dad). Oh, and, i actually did see the whole Murtagh thing coming, i thought, “this guy is awesome, I hope he stays in the books, ooh, what if he’s a Rider like his dad! (I hope he’s good, though)”
      Oh, and the Wild Dragon thing, your idea makes some sense, but wouldn’t they have revealed themselves or given more eggs to the elves? I guess they’d be afraid for their young, what with Galbatorix on the loose and now Murtagh, but still, they struck me as honorable, and I thought they’d abide by their treaty, or at least help a little with the humans or the elves or something, but themn again, i suppose self-protection is their number 1 priority.
      (sorry for rambling, i talk too much)

      • stochl

        dragons in the spine would be a nice twist but in brisingr orimis says he scoured the land looking for hoh dont you think he wouldve felt the presence of more dragons

        • Yeah

          They could just be hiding their presence in fear of Galbatorix finding them and thus Oromis wouldn’t be able to sense them either. And that also goes for why they wouldn’t help the Varden, they wouldn’t know there was a fight going on because they would be in seclusion hiding themselves. Buuutttt who knows half his army could have just fallen of a cliff for all I know.

          • Eschwartz

            they may be able to hide their physical presence and guard their minds from intrusion, but you can still feel their mind is there, unless you’re the raa’zac

            oromis wasnt found in ellesmera by galby because he was kind of guarded by a whole forest of elves and their wards so dont tell me “but galby didnt know of glaedr”

          • Eschwartz

            they may be able to hide their physical presence and guard their minds from intrusion, but you can still feel their mind is there, unless you’re the raa’zac

            oromis wasnt found in ellesmera by galby because he was kind of guarded by a whole forest of elves and their wards so dont tell me “but galby didnt know of glaedr”

        • Yeah

          They could just be hiding their presence in fear of Galbatorix finding them and thus Oromis wouldn’t be able to sense them either. And that also goes for why they wouldn’t help the Varden, they wouldn’t know there was a fight going on because they would be in seclusion hiding themselves. Buuutttt who knows half his army could have just fallen of a cliff for all I know.

  • Arteza147

    What if grennie does hatch in the 4th book to the varden and gets her pregnant? THis could keep her from the final battle.

    • Kathryn

      Dragons don’t get pregnant. They lay eggs.

  • Flamespike

    Saphira might have to mate with ThornANDGreenie, although only truly love one of them, she might be forced to mate with both to produce enough dragons. Remember, they only had one or two eggs a year.

    • Eschwartz

      no, the dragons GAVE only one or two a year, typically, to the riders. dragons could probably lay 8 or so eggs at a time, and who says they can only mate successfully once a year?  i think most egg-laying animals can mate however much they want( chickens once a day, when they DONT care about hatching them) since their nonexistent womb is not already occupied. the males, certainly, the females, why not? theres definitely no proof otherwise.

      • Zyanna

        That does seem more dragonlike, laying a hoard of eggs, although I’d think after laying a lot they’d wait for them to hatch before laying more.
        They could probably produce like chickens, considering that they don’t have to incubate the eggs or anything. Not daily, just often.

        • Eschwartz

          they can hatch at any time without the parents why not lay more especially now give bunch to eragon to spell for riderhood and lay as many as possible to raise numbers back up.

          even of old they laid them and then just let them hatch when they felt like it. “usually according to the climate and food availability” etc.

    • Eschwartz

      no, the dragons GAVE only one or two a year, typically, to the riders. dragons could probably lay 8 or so eggs at a time, and who says they can only mate successfully once a year?  i think most egg-laying animals can mate however much they want( chickens once a day, when they DONT care about hatching them) since their nonexistent womb is not already occupied. the males, certainly, the females, why not? theres definitely no proof otherwise.

  • Flamespike

    Saphira might have to mate with ThornANDGreenie, although only truly love one of them, she might be forced to mate with both to produce enough dragons. Remember, they only had one or two eggs a year.

  • Alec venecia

    I really hope that Greenie is already hatched, perhaps wild. It would really make for a good twist as for how he will bond with his rider, and his development with that situation of being trained and molded into the sort of icon that the other dragons have become.

    • Zoranna

      Wild Dragons can’t bond with Riders, it wouldn’t really make sense. Remeber Gleadr mentioning that wild dragons are much more wild? It’d be too hard to contact with one, and I doubt a wild dragon would want a bond with a ‘measly human/elf/dwarf’ (as they would probably put it).

      • Eschwartz

        more, the magic to bond is resident within the words spoken over the egg to activate that part of the elves pact. a wild dragon CANT bond. also, the egg is known to be spelled to wait for a rider. he got all three from the riders not the dragons. and these eggs CANT hatch on their own, they HAVE to wait for a rider

        • Alice

           Plus, the dragon is still in Galby’s hold. Eragon and Saphira have yet to rescue the last egg

      • I agree with you but dwarves can’t be dragon riders because they are scared of heights and I don’t know for sure but they had said that they didn’t join a spell for elves and humans to become DRAGONRIDERS! But I do agree with your statement

        • Eschwartz

          what does scared of heights mean, that has nothing to do with magical bonding, ALL that matters is they were never included in the elves spell which causes the bond

          • Ok if you are a dragonrider and you can’t ride youor dragon what kind of dragon rider are you?

          • Ok if you are a dragonrider and you can’t ride youor dragon what kind of dragon rider are you?

          • Ok if you are a dragonrider and you can’t ride youor dragon what kind of dragon rider are you?

        • Eschwartz

          what does scared of heights mean, that has nothing to do with magical bonding, ALL that matters is they were never included in the elves spell which causes the bond

    • Kathryn

      The green egg was stolen from the Riders. Since the Riders had the egg in their possession it means that it had been enchanted to hatch ONLY in the presence of the person destined to be its Rider. With that in mind, if the green dragon has hatched prior to the beginning of “Inheritance” (which is entirely possible) then he would not be wild, but would already have bonded with his Rider.

  • Brendans Mommy87

    I just can’t wait to learn “Greenie”‘s real name! The suspense is killing me lol

    • Guest

      And what sucks is that dragon names are almost impossible to predict XD

      • Marzipan

        well, if the blue dragon is Saphira like saphire . . . we could have Emeril like emerald. . . *bam* *bam* XD *dies laughing* XD

        • Yea but thorrn’s would’ve been ruby or something like that but i like your way of thinking ;D

      • Marzipan

        well, if the blue dragon is Saphira like saphire . . . we could have Emeril like emerald. . . *bam* *bam* XD *dies laughing* XD

      • Marzipan

        well, if the blue dragon is Saphira like saphire . . . we could have Emeril like emerald. . . *bam* *bam* XD *dies laughing* XD

  • Joshua Griep

    I think that Greeny could hatch to Katrina or horst or even jeod those are my top 3 picks

    • Zoranna

      But then Katrina would out-live Roran, he one true love, be kinda harsh considering what they’ve been through.

      • Noodley

        Yeah, but Roran is far too perfect . . . something needs to go wrong. He’s slayed thousands of men, he uprooted Carvahall, vowed to take down the king, has true love, etc. He needs to suffer a grievous injury and be useless in battle or something like that. 
        No character is perfect, and those that are, die fast.

      • Noodley

        Yeah, but Roran is far too perfect . . . something needs to go wrong. He’s slayed thousands of men, he uprooted Carvahall, vowed to take down the king, has true love, etc. He needs to suffer a grievous injury and be useless in battle or something like that. 
        No character is perfect, and those that are, die fast.

        • Miya

          He lost his father in the first book, lost Katrina (not for good, but still) in the second book, and totally resented Eragon, his only living relative, for the longest time. also, is slaying thousands really good? It hangs on his soul, rember how each time he killed a man he felt horrible? He couldn’t believe himself….sadly, though, I agree, i think something bad will happen to him. I just hope it doesn’t include Katrina and the baby…

          • not to be suicidal here but what if katrina commited suicide if he died

    • I don’t think any dragon would want to hatch for Sloan he is scared of the Spine and might consider it unappropiate for him to be a dragon rider(and I think he is wayyyyyyyy to old)

  • justin

    well there are wild dragons right? i mean we dont know that there all gone, we just havent seen them in awhile. maybe they go to the spine and saphira finds one.. who knows.?

    • Eschwartz

      wild dragons are never really touched upon in the books, definitely all the bonded ones fought, but really, what kind of self-respecting dragon would be hiding all this time? they probably all fought right at the start, before it was shown to be futile. galby hunted down all dragons that wouldnt serve him, and would account for all recorded/known riders, but i suppose he could miss a wild one- if said dragon was cowardly, a distinctively undragonlike trait.

      • Kathryn

        Perhaps they hid for the same reason that Oromis and Glaedr did. It had nothing to do with cowardice. Maybe they want to ensure that there will be some dragons, somewhere, who would be able to continue their race.

        • Eschwartz

          they wouldve fought and died in the first battles, like all the riders, who should also have hidden “for the sake of their future”

          or they’d hide their eggs somewhere and fight

      • Jackal

        Or wounded, like Glaedr.

  • Mrsm160

    I think Saphira will mate with all 3. Slut.

    • she is not a slut she has too continue her race SHE HAS TOO SHE has  NO CHOICE OR THE DRAGONS WILL BE DECIMATED

  • Saphiraimafan

    Howaboutroran?

  • Derethor

    I might have missed something but what about wild dragons? i might be mistaken but i cant find anywhere where it specificly says that all the wild dragons were killed, hmm brainfart maby Eragon leaves Alagaisia to seek out wild dragons for Saphira?

    • ZyannatheRider

      Most probable theory I’ve heard all day.

    • Majialei

      It has been said that there are probably still dragons in the wild, and Eragon told Saphira that they would go and look for more dragons one day.  In addition, the wild dragons are more wild so it would be difficult to find and mate with one; that does not rule out that Saphira could mate with one, just says it is improbable.  

      But your theory is also good.  It is probable that dragons exist elsewhere in the world and that Eragon, because of his promise to Saphira, go searching for them, thus leaving Alagaesia.  However, while that may be one of the reasons, or one of their plans when they leave, I don’t think that will be the only factor in them leaving.  He leaves and is fated to never come back.  I feel like something else with also force them to leave, but, who knows, I could be completely wrong, theorizing is so fun!

  • Unicycle95

    I see people are obsessed with Arya being the rider for Greeny.  But I have to disagree, she is simply to old.  She is an adult by the elves standards, and all throughout history, dragon riders have been young when they are first paired.  The only other possibility i see is it could be one of the elf children or it could be the teenager of the two mysterious women whos future angela predicted.  

    • Colonel Graff

      Traditionally only children have been introduced to dragons, probably because if they are picked, they need to have time to train. But there is no reason that they cannot bond with older people. Besides, if they have to bond with children there is only one character that is possible – Elva. And I don’t know about you, but I think Elva as dragon rider would be a bad choice, mostly because she is erratic and also has no training, magical or otherwise.

      • Rainbowemoelk

        Remember also that Saphira said that she was introduced to all of the elves in Du Weldenvarden (sp?) and picked Eragon instead. That was in “Eldest”.

        • Eschwartz

          emphasis on “all”

          not necessary if only the two children were capable of bonding

    • pyro54

      i like your opinion-it makes sense but CP said it was going to be a minor character that was in all 3 of the previous novels, so that rules out the teenager & the 2 elf kids.

      i do hope that it’s arya but she’s a main character-not a minor(haha, she’s not a minor) that only leaves: elva(heck no), jormundur(IDK), the villagefolk of Carvahall, &……. yeah tat’s all i can think of now

      • Brendans Mommy87

        I remember him saying it would be a character in all three books, but I don’t remember him specifying that it would be a minor character….

        • I think it would be most likely because if we had another major character then 1/2 of us would already know who that was

      • Detour

        he never, ever said that it was going to be a minor character. just that it was someone in all 3 books

      • Majialei

        Well, I didn’t hear CP’s comment about the character being minor so I can’t comment on that either way, except to say that CP likes to try and trick the fans with his cryptic comments and sometimes those comments can mean something completely different than what one first thinks.  Personally I think that Arya would be a very good choice because whoever becomes the next dragon rider will have to either learn VERY fast in order to be of any help at all in the fight, OR they will have to already have a sufficient knowledge of magic and fighting.  Oromis trained Arya, we already know that, so while there would be things she would need to learn (like flying and fighting from the air and such), she wouldn’t have to learn magic and general fighting, thus making her a perfect candidate.  

        If CP did in fact say it would be a MINOR character and not just one that was in all three books, well than I have no idea who it could be, he will probably surprise us all.  And I also have no idea how the rider would be effective at all, the rider will not have a lot of time to train as they have already begun their direct assaults against the empire.  Eragon is so central, so essential, that he will not be able to be spared for long to train a new rider almost from scratch.

    • Kathryn

      Age is completely irrelevant at this point in terms of who can be the green dragon’s rider. Eragon was also too old when Saphira hatched for him; six years past when human children were paraded past the dragons’ eggs.

      • DuSkulblakaEbrithil

        That’s exactly what I was thinking. 😀

    • OK, but we have to cancel the facts here what are the characters that have been here in all 3 books? If we come up with all we have at least identified the rider in the list
      Murtagh-dragonrider
      Eragon-dragonrider
      Arya-Dragonless
      Galby-Dragonrider
      Angela-Dragonless
      Nasuada-Dragonless
      I might be missing some characters but it is a start

      • Kathryn

        There isn’t room on this page to make a comprehensive list of the characters who have been in all three books. You haven’t even brushed the surface. There’s everyone from Orik (not possible since dwarves aren’t part of the spell that bonds the Rider to the dragon) to Jormundur.

  • firemonkey

    I’m putting my chips on Greenie with Arya as his rider.  AXE and GXS is the way I want it to be.

  • SpiritTamer

    I think that Greeny will hatch for Arya and mate with Saphira. Pretty simple when you type it out.

  • Rubydragon

    The general idea that there are no more dragons with Riders aside from the ones we know, it can also possible that there may may other dragon eggs that are destined for a Rider but out of Galby’s reach. It was never mentioned so I guess this theory could work. What if this “Greeny” was actually a wild dragon? I think that would be cool, but a little firey since it may have an odd temper. The idea of searching for the wild dragons should already come up to Eragon’s noggin sometime unless CP has an interesting plot to show us. I wonder why out of many characters that have been captured by any means, why has Saphira herself never been captured?

  • Rubydragon

    The general idea that there are no more dragons with Riders aside from the ones we know, it can also possible that there may may other dragon eggs that are destined for a Rider but out of Galby’s reach. It was never mentioned so I guess this theory could work. What if this “Greeny” was actually a wild dragon? I think that would be cool, but a little firey since it may have an odd temper. The idea of searching for the wild dragons should already come up to Eragon’s noggin sometime unless CP has an interesting plot to show us. I wonder why out of many characters that have been captured by any means, why has Saphira herself never been captured?

    • Kathryn

      To your point about the possibility of the green dragon being wild: I don’t think that’s possible. If I remember correctly, Galbatorix took his three eggs from the riders after or during the war. If the riders had them that means the eggs were enchanted to hatch only upon sensing the presence of the rider destined for them. So the green dragon will only have hatched if he’s come in contact with his rider.

      About Saphira’s capture: it has already happened. The Razac captured her, along with Brom and Eragon, in the first book. The Razac mention to Eragon that she was easy to capture once they threatened Eragon’s life.

      • Rainbowemoelk

        Besides, if he was a Wild Dragon he wouldn’t have hatched under Galbatorix ‘care’, because wild dragons hatch when the time is best.
        Galbatorix? Not exactly a good time.

        • Jackal

          who said greeny hatched under galby’s care? he could have been the son of 2 wild dragons

    • Majialei

       Well, wild dragons cannot “bond” with their riders, however Eragon and Di’Buam (spelling?) happened before that pact and bonding spell were in existence, so it could be possible for a wild dragon to consent to be a rider, or it could be possible to find an egg in the wild that when hatched could consent to be a partner with an elf or human.  It is improbable but I don’t see why it couldn’t happen.

       Another thought:  why do dragons have to be bonded to be helpful?  They have been said to still exist in the wild, and they are just as intelligent as elves and humans.  If it is true that it was wild dragons who defeated half of Galbatorix’s army then theoretically if one could find them and somehow communicate with them, one might be able to enlist their help in the battles.  They have a score to settle with Galbatorix for killing off so many of their species.  They would not necessarily NEED to be dragon riders.  A dragon, even on its own, is still a formidable fighter, especially a wild dragon which is said to be more ferocious.  A twist like that could be what is needed to even the odds against the Varden. 

  • I may be wrong but I remember reading somewhere that from the very beginning Alagaesia was only inhabited by dragons which makes of that continent the only land in the whole world where dragons could exist. I remember reading that Alagaesia was once the place where the Dragons lived directly bounded to magic, and that the elves and the other races just invaded the place. So, believing that Alagaesia was the unique dragon’s residence, I don’t think that there is any other dragon beyond the boundaries of that continent. 
    So, I think that it will be either Thorn or the Greeny (it’s obvious that the Greeny will hatch to someone who is next to Eragon.. so there’s a huge possibility here).. But things tend to complicate a bit more when we mention Thorn and Murtagh. But I believe that if these two escape from Galby’s control Eragon will give them a chance to redeem their honor so that Saphira could have a chance with the red dragon. 
    In the other side, we need to remember of the vision Eragon once had of his future. He would leave Alagaesia and it’s clearly mentioned that there will be a green dragon and its rider leaving  that land as well.

  • I may be wrong but I remember reading somewhere that from the very beginning Alagaesia was only inhabited by dragons which makes of that continent the only land in the whole world where dragons could exist. I remember reading that Alagaesia was once the place where the Dragons lived directly bounded to magic, and that the elves and the other races just invaded the place. So, believing that Alagaesia was the unique dragon’s residence, I don’t think that there is any other dragon beyond the boundaries of that continent. 
    So, I think that it will be either Thorn or the Greeny (it’s obvious that the Greeny will hatch to someone who is next to Eragon.. so there’s a huge possibility here).. But things tend to complicate a bit more when we mention Thorn and Murtagh. But I believe that if these two escape from Galby’s control Eragon will give them a chance to redeem their honor so that Saphira could have a chance with the red dragon. 
    In the other side, we need to remember of the vision Eragon once had of his future. He would leave Alagaesia and it’s clearly mentioned that there will be a green dragon and its rider leaving  that land as well.

    • Rblax

      You never know if the dream was his future, what if i WAS JUST a dream?

      • Eiyra

        Er, it’ strue it could just be a dream, but every other ” very vivid” ( as descirbed in the book) has come true: Eragon’s dreams about Arya, the Burning Plains premonition, ect. Plus, I doubt that C.P would have randomly put the dream in the very begining of Eragon ( was it before Saphira even hatched?) to never be mentioned again if it didn’t mean *something*. And I believe that the end of the page after the dream it had three stars: usually used by author to show that ” Hey, this is important! Look at me! And don’t forget me!” usually that isn’t something that’s “just a dream”
        Sorry to blow you theory out of the water.

        • Kewers77

          Alright Eiyra, you don’t know I your right so you didn’t blow anything out of the water. Maybe the dream isn’t what you thought. Maybe Eragon is the one left on the shore, maybe the dragons aren’t both good. You don’t know. And the stars? In eldest and brinsingr they simply meant the change of perspective

          • Gerkin

            One could conjecture a million “maybe”s, and in that case what matters is what is most (and overwhelmingly) likely. I believe we’ll have to defer to Eiyra’s point above, in this case.

          • TopHat

            remember angela the witch read eragons future from the knuckle bones of a dragon. She said he was doomed to leave alagaesia forever. so i would bet Eiyra is right. but it is a vivid dream their are many possibilities. but i do have to agree it is not a meaningless dream. it is called forshadowing events in the book. personally, (and this is my own theory) I think it is Eragon and Arya leaving with Saphira and Thorn. And the man on the beach is Murtagh crying out.  However i know i could be wrong as it could be the green dragon instead of Thorn. Or even Shruiken ( but i think that is unlikely) Anyhow one thing for sure the dream is not “just a dream” it is obvious foreshadowing for the climatic ending of the series. or then again maybe it is not for the ending. but i am willing to bet it is. Whats a better place to put forshadowing for the ending of the series, at the beinging of the story Book 1 Eragon.

      • Eiyra

        Er, it’ strue it could just be a dream, but every other ” very vivid” ( as descirbed in the book) has come true: Eragon’s dreams about Arya, the Burning Plains premonition, ect. Plus, I doubt that C.P would have randomly put the dream in the very begining of Eragon ( was it before Saphira even hatched?) to never be mentioned again if it didn’t mean *something*. And I believe that the end of the page after the dream it had three stars: usually used by author to show that ” Hey, this is important! Look at me! And don’t forget me!” usually that isn’t something that’s “just a dream”
        Sorry to blow you theory out of the water.

      • talking about dreams eragon to me has a power very few dragon riders have limited powers to do scrying and in the ancient language it is meant dream stare and he also had vision dreams i wonder if that means eragon has a type of power to help him with galby i hope ;0

    • Kathryn

      I’m not sure you’re right about Alagaesia being only inhabited by dragons in the beginning. Didn’t Orik say that dwarves were one of the races original to Alagaesia? I know the dwarves were there before the elves. The Grey Folk were also in there at some point.

      But even if the dragons were the sole original race, nowhere does it say that the dragons didn’t travel there from another land. Nor does it say that some of them didn’t leave Alagaesia.

      • Eschwartz

        it never says anywhere that the grey folk were from or ever in Alagaësia. and oromis said when the elvish race was YOUNG, the grey folk did their thing, and then faded away. this is for sure before they came to Alagaësia, so at the least the grey folk were there across the sea, and where do we see that they werent FROM overseas?

        and the whole idea of “original race” is the gods created them THERE (along with the dwarves.) they could travel away from Alagaësia, but they certainly started off there

        • Kathryn

          Ummm, according to pretty much everyone in the Inheritance Forums (since I don’t have any of my books with me) the Grey Folk are a race original to Alagaesia. The dwarves, the Grey Folk and the dragons are the three original races.

          Also, sorry about the confusion about my final paragraph in my previous comment. It should have been, “Even if the DWARVES were the sole original race…” I was typing and thinking with separate parts of my brain. 🙂

          • Eschwartz

            we know acc to dwarvish history that the dwarves and dragons were the originals. and like i just said before, the grey folk were definitely across the sea when they did their great thing with the magic, SINCE IT WAS BEFORE THE ELVES CAME TO ALAGAESIA, and they knew of the grey folk and their work. in absence of any compelling reason to think the grey folk were ever here, why should they have been? the dwarves(i cant remember if it was in the foreword of domia abr wyrda-seen in eldest limited edition-or in one of their speeches to eragon) seem quite adamant that they and the dragons were the ONLY original inhabitants of the land.

          • Kathryn

            From the “Inheritance Almanac” entry for “Ancient Language”:

            “An enduring remnant of Alagaesia’s ancient history is the original language of truth and magic created by the INDIGENOUS RACE known as the GREY FOLK.”

             From the Merriam-Webster dictionary:

            “indigenous – having ORIGINATED IN and being produced, growing, living, or occuring naturally in a particular REGION or environment; innate, inborn; synonyms: see NATIVE”

            Seeing as the “Inheritance Almanac” is approved and endorsed by CP, I would say it’s pretty certain that the Grey Folk is native to Alagaesia.

    • Eschwartz

      BOTH the dwarves and dragons are the only natives of alagaesia, the humans, elves, and urgals came long after, but yeah, dragons are native. still, if the elves, humans, urgals could come from across the seas, the dragons could GO across the seas. and also, there is much of alagaesia that lies far beyond what we know, to the east north and south (west is the spine, vroengard and the sea). dragons and lots of others could be living unaware of the whole empire the elves and humans very existence, and much more, just waiting to be found. other dwarf nations, other races we never heard of, and maybe humans who traveled there long ago though i doubt it. dragons could very likely abound there by the thousands. if we lived in times that far back, would we know in Europe all about people and events in far-off china? although the race of dragons probably has to be dying off for the balance to be so askew that the elves and humans declined 🙁 so probably no dragons there either, b/c they cant be anywhere. but if not for that then dragons could stil be around elsewhere in alagaesia, and have migrated across the seas sometime.

      • oh yeah. you’re right. i’ve forgotten about the dwarves. but still, for me the dragons are a very special race, truly rare. i know there’s always the possibility that they’re living beyond Alagaesia, but again, for being so rare, i don’t believe that there are more of them out there. 

        • Eschwartz

          i quite agree. its possible but unlikely and i would hate it

    • Eschwartz

      BOTH the dwarves and dragons are the only natives of alagaesia, the humans, elves, and urgals came long after, but yeah, dragons are native. still, if the elves, humans, urgals could come from across the seas, the dragons could GO across the seas. and also, there is much of alagaesia that lies far beyond what we know, to the east north and south (west is the spine, vroengard and the sea). dragons and lots of others could be living unaware of the whole empire the elves and humans very existence, and much more, just waiting to be found. other dwarf nations, other races we never heard of, and maybe humans who traveled there long ago though i doubt it. dragons could very likely abound there by the thousands. if we lived in times that far back, would we know in Europe all about people and events in far-off china? although the race of dragons probably has to be dying off for the balance to be so askew that the elves and humans declined 🙁 so probably no dragons there either, b/c they cant be anywhere. but if not for that then dragons could stil be around elsewhere in alagaesia, and have migrated across the seas sometime.

  • Tex Is Toast

    I know most evidence points towards Arya being the green rider, but what about the elf children Alanna or Dusan, the 12 year olds? Has anyone discussed their possibilities? Far out theory, the girl (I’m assuming Alanna) could become the rider, Eragon trains her, she matures, possible romantic relationship. I see the holes in this, of course (for example, no royal blood, unless they do and we just don’t know it)… just conjecturing.

    • Eiyra

      uh, where did it say they were twelve? for all we know they’re accually older than Eragon, after all, it says that the *elven children* were presented to the dragon eggs when they were *20 years old.* suggesting that 20 years old is still considered young for elves.
       
      Another thing, Arya is one hundred years old, and she caried Saphira’s egg for 70 years: so when she left Du Weldenvarden she was 30 years old: suggesting that elves become considered “adults” somewhere between 20 and 30 years old, since I doubt Arya would have been alotted the responsibility of a dragon egg if she was a child
      … Alana and Dusan could be anywhere between 10 and 30 years old.

      • Pwmller

        Arya didnt start to ferry Saphira’s egg until she was in her late 70’s to early 80’s.  She became ambassador in her 30’s. 

        • Eiyra

          oh, thanks for catching that, guys. I haven’t read Eldest for a while. Sorry about the mix up.:)

      • Tex Is Toast

        quoting Rhunon:
        “There was much rejoicing when they were conceived twelve years ago.”
        -pg. 673, hard cover. 

    • Eiyra

      the prophacy said ” noble blood” so if Alanna was a child of one of the elvish Lords/Ladies, then she is a possiblity for Eragon’s love.

      • Flamespike

        Doesn’t matter if the one Eragon ends up with is ‘noble’ or not. Because Angela said he would fall in love with one of ‘noble blood’, but she said she couldn’t tell if it would work out or not. That would be Arya, who rejects Eragon, who can then go and marry some peasent or something.

    • Kathryn

      You’ve forgotten one piece of evidence which nullifies your theory: CP has said that the new rider will be someone who has been in all three books. The elven children have only had one very brief mention in “Brisingr.”

    • Kathryn

      You’ve forgotten one piece of evidence which nullifies your theory: CP has said that the new rider will be someone who has been in all three books. The elven children have only had one very brief mention in “Brisingr.”

    • RSD

      Nasuada is in all three books.. Maybe she will become the rider to Greeny, leave with Eragon like in the vision, and perhaps make Roran the leader of the Varden? 
      And we don’t know the identity of her mother, nor why she was born within the Empire, Ajihad just showed up in the Varden with a baby in his arms it says. Hmm could be something more to Nasuada we are yet to learn!

      found this little interesting note online.. “Eragon acknowledged that he was charmed by Nasuada and that he cared for her. Just like Eragon, Nasuada was desiring marriage and Eragon was committed to Nasuada already by oath. Eragon and Nasuada were good friends, and Saphira liked Nasuada. Also, Nasuada was the only human female Eragon’s age that he shared a caring bond with. However, Nasuada was not immortal the way Eragon would have liked for his mate to be. She was a candidate for becoming the third Dragon Rider. Even though she was mortal, Eragon has bonded with Nasuada, and his language toward Nasuada became ever more observant and noteworthy. Importantly, Nasuada met the requirements of Angela’s fortune to Eragon: of noble birth and heritage, wise, powerful, and beautiful beyond compare.” .. hmmm

      I think Nasuada. It would be sad that Eragon wouldn’t be with Arya though, who he has liked for so long though..

      • Kathryn

        The epic romance in the prophecy is already happening. It’s with Arya. Angela said she couldn’t see if it would succeed or fail, and up to this point it has failed, but it is most definitely Arya.

        Nasuada cannot be an option for Eragon as she is his liege lord. It would be inappropriate. Not to mention that Nasuada has no problem lording this position over Eragon as we see when she forces him to go to Farthen Dur alone for the election of the dwarf ruler. That would make a relationship with her very awkward, to say the least.

      • Jackal

        ‘Of noble birth and heritage’, Ajihad was not a king, and leading an army does not mean you are royal.

  • Michaelfan13

    I say it’s greeny

  • Saphira’s gonna be a mommy =D Even though I think Thorn really deserves a break and that Saphira’s affection would be good for him, it’s much more likely that Greeni would be her mate.

  • Saphira’s gonna be a mommy =D Even though I think Thorn really deserves a break and that Saphira’s affection would be good for him, it’s much more likely that Greeni would be her mate.

  • Victini

    This theory discusses the future of dragons based only on the four we know exist for sure, but how about the posibility of other dragons living wild somewhere else? If I recall correctly Christopher said that there are no other dragons tied to riders, but I don’t think he’s denied the posibility of wild dragons living somewhere in or outside of Alagaësia, actually I think I’ve seen some theories saying that there are dragons on the spine or inside the vault of souls, to name some places.

    If dragons do live somewhere we haven’t found yet then the future of their species wouldn’t necesary recall on Saphira, though she might eventually mate with one, given the few options she has for mating with one related to the raiders. In fact, since we know almost nothing about the green dragon, there’s a chance that it is actually a wild one, we can’t deny that possibility.

  • Victini

    This theory discusses the future of dragons based only on the four we know exist for sure, but how about the posibility of other dragons living wild somewhere else? If I recall correctly Christopher said that there are no other dragons tied to riders, but I don’t think he’s denied the posibility of wild dragons living somewhere in or outside of Alagaësia, actually I think I’ve seen some theories saying that there are dragons on the spine or inside the vault of souls, to name some places.

    If dragons do live somewhere we haven’t found yet then the future of their species wouldn’t necesary recall on Saphira, though she might eventually mate with one, given the few options she has for mating with one related to the raiders. In fact, since we know almost nothing about the green dragon, there’s a chance that it is actually a wild one, we can’t deny that possibility.

    • Rblax

      Yes, but a wild one would be much older than her, which would make the therory that she mates with “Greeny” or Thorn much higher.

      • Victini

        That might not be completely true, a wild dragon could perfectly be Glaedr’s age if we asume it hatched when the raiders still existed and Saphira actually tried to mate with him, so it is posible. Not only that, but there’s also the very remote posibility that the wild dragon is actually younger, if by any chance the dragons managed to hide an egg from Galbatorix and it decided to hatch before the events of the books.

      • Majialei

        Who says that a wild dragon would have to be older?  If there are indeed wild dragons still living somewhere in alagaesia they are probably reproducing (we have not indication otherwise), so who is to say that there aren’t any young wild dragons?  

  • Zeep

    The egg will probably hatch for Arya, who will feel more related to Eragon afterwards. The dragons will mate at some point, and the feelings/bond they have for each other will probably result in a relation between the 2.
    Nice post btw!

  • Mr Cleveland

    i would like to point something else out that may hinder the rise of dragons in alagaesia. i am assuming that even though dragons are  magical creatures, they have DNA and it has been shown time after time that to create a healthy species there must be genetic diversity. since saphira would be mother of the new dragons, they would all be related. if the dragons would continue to mate, the new generations of dragon would merely get weaker and weaker. 
    however, this is simply assuming that dragons are like animals on earth. if this weren’t to apply to them, i think dragons have a chance of rebuilding. if it is the same as with normal creatures, the dragons’ only chance would be to look for dragons elsewhere to continue the dragon race.
    (sorry if you think this is a bit too scientific for a fantasy novel. this is just my outlook on it)

    • Hrothgar

      This opinion is interesting but the problem with this is that the main reason that species become weaker from no genetic diversity is that they get recessive genes that bring out rare diseases and deformities that hinder their abilties to escape and fight off pretadors but dragons have no natural pretadors (that we know of) and no known diseases or deformties that come from birth that are brought out by recessive genes. The second reason I believe that they will not be weaker, even if your theory was correct, is that Saphira is an extraordinarily strong, intelligent, and powerful dragon (even Glaedr commented on how amazing Saphira’s flying is) so even if the next dragons had idetical DNA that Saphira did, which they wouldn’t, they would all still be incredibly strong and amazing dragons, not “weaker and weaker”.

      • Hyruleherojoe

        has anyone here taken a bio or genetics course?

        • Anonymous

          I’m currently getting my undergraduate degree in biology, and they’re correct about the recessive gene problem. This isnt’ the only issue though. Since the gene pool is so small, extinction is hightly likely because natural selection can’t occur. Even if thousands of eggs are laid, they still have little to no genetic diversity. They are all extremely likely to die if any climate or other drastic change were to occur because no one has abilities to withstand the change because everyone has the same genetic material.

          On a non-science-y note, incest probably will be a huge problem. All of the currently known dragons have grown up bonded to a Rider, even if the bond is warped in Shruikan’s case. I’m positive that the humans, elves, and even dwarfs in Alagaesia have strong opinions agains incest like people in the real world do. Just like bonding to a dragon cause the dragon to be less “wild/ferocious” like Glaedr said, they will probably have many of the same moral ideals as their Riders.

          • Eiyra

            what about that mountain in the Hadarac… what’s it called…. er…Du Fells Nagoroth, where the wild dragon’s had gone to mate, to raise young and to eventually die. On page 861 in Eldest Eragon and Saphira agree to return there one day, as they pass it on there way back to the Varden.
            Now, this is a far out theory, but what if, because, as we know, Galbatorix doesn’t control the Hadarac because of it vastness, and since the Mountain is hidden in the deepest part of the desert, there are the last of the wild dragons there? Saphira could perhaps mate with one of them, and there’d be other females: solving the gene-pool-too-small-for-the-dragon problem.
            one other peice of evidence: Saphira loves the heat from the Hadarac by instinct: so other dragons would too, making du Fells Nagoroth the perfect hiding place: out of Galby’s reach, out of Galby’s mind, comfortably warm; Perfect for dragons.

          • Anonymous

            I like your theory about the dragons being in the Hadarac! They could also be in the Spine, which could explain why half of Galbatorix’s army disappeared there

          • Eiyra

            you should look at the comments on the Bid’daum/Eragon 1 big twenty! There was theories there about the Spine accually being Bid’daum, and I think you might like ’em.

          • Kathryn

            The biology lesson is interesting and all, but it does not take into consideration the magic that is inherent in all dragons, plus the elves. I’m sure between the two races they could find some way to fix the genetics issue.

            You also have to consider that this story is FICTION. The world, including genetics, of Alagaesia do not necessarily follow the same rules as the real world.

          • Kathryn

            Also, what does incest have to do with the dragons bonding to a Rider? The bonded dragons currently known in the series aren’t related as far as we know, and the bonding process doesn’t change the dragons DNA to make all bonded dragons physically related.

            Saphira was in her egg for about 1000 years before she hatched, and there’s no telling how long Thorn, Shruiken and the green dragon sat/have been sitting in their eggs for. For all we know Saphira was “conceived” (for lack of a better term) 1000 years ago; Thorn 200 years ago Shruiken 2500 years ago; and the green dragon 5000 years ago. The chances of the four of them being related and thus having an incestuous relationship are miniscule at best.

          • Majialei

             The problem was not with Saphira mating with one of the current dragons, the issue was her kids.   Who would they mate with? Themselves?  If so, that is an extremely small breeding pool, and definitely incestuous.  And if Saphira mated with more than one of the current dragons the gene pool would be bigger but still limited as it would still be her offspring mating with more of her offspring, still incestuous.  And I agree with JeannetteGerry, that Saphira herself would be against sleeping around so to speak and against the idea of her kids mating with themselves.  I personally think that wild dragons will come into play somewhere, sometime, but I am not positive in what way.

            But it is true, the story is fiction, anything can happen, the genetics of dragons might not be affected, CP is the final authority on how dragons work in his world.

          • Kathryn

            I don’t know where everyone is getting the idea that dragons mate for life and/or love. Because Saphira was flirty with Glaedr? That’s hardly evidence. Mating animals behave that way and it has little or nothing to do with love or mating for life. Mutual compatability and respect is surely taken into consideration, and dragons are sentient beings. But considering that dragon eggs (with the exception of the Riders’ eggs) hatched based on environmental conditions these sorts of things would be a bigger consideration when it comes to mating.

            Love would take a back seat to things like is the partner a strong flier, are they beautiful, are they strong, etc. Especially with the end of the race looming, I’m sure Saphira would HAVE to think more about how to ensure the longevity and continuation of the dragons.

    • Hrothgar

      This opinion is interesting but the problem with this is that the main reason that species become weaker from no genetic diversity is that they get recessive genes that bring out rare diseases and deformities that hinder their abilties to escape and fight off pretadors but dragons have no natural pretadors (that we know of) and no known diseases or deformties that come from birth that are brought out by recessive genes. The second reason I believe that they will not be weaker, even if your theory was correct, is that Saphira is an extraordinarily strong, intelligent, and powerful dragon (even Glaedr commented on how amazing Saphira’s flying is) so even if the next dragons had idetical DNA that Saphira did, which they wouldn’t, they would all still be incredibly strong and amazing dragons, not “weaker and weaker”.

    • Hrothgar

      This opinion is interesting but the problem with this is that the main reason that species become weaker from no genetic diversity is that they get recessive genes that bring out rare diseases and deformities that hinder their abilties to escape and fight off pretadors but dragons have no natural pretadors (that we know of) and no known diseases or deformties that come from birth that are brought out by recessive genes. The second reason I believe that they will not be weaker, even if your theory was correct, is that Saphira is an extraordinarily strong, intelligent, and powerful dragon (even Glaedr commented on how amazing Saphira’s flying is) so even if the next dragons had idetical DNA that Saphira did, which they wouldn’t, they would all still be incredibly strong and amazing dragons, not “weaker and weaker”.

    • Primus

      incest shouldn’t be a problem. The problem is just overblown because society looks down upon incest. 

      The problem with beings that are a product of incest is that he or she has a greater chance of containing recessive genes that may lead to a disorder. Or in other words, there is a smaller gene pool.

      In the end, i believe that if Saphira were to be the mother of the next-generation dragons, she will produce many many eggs. And her children will also produce many many children, so eventually if the limited gene pool results in being a problem due to some exotic disease or disorder (which probably won’t happen), then hopefully natural selection will play it’s role. Or else extinction will occur. 

    • Guest

      over thinking to the max

    • Flamespike

      Dragons are magaical.

  • Hello

    I didn’t know Saphira’s mentor was Thorn?

    • Aplussoccerkid

      He wasn’t it was just a mistake. Her mentor was Glaedr.

    • Aplussoccerkid

      He wasn’t it was just a mistake. Her mentor was Glaedr.

  • John

    You never know maybe she will mate with both of them…….

  • NinaSvitKona

    I’m sure the dragons have a future.
    I think Saphira ‘ll have eggs with the Green dragon OR with Thorn. I HOPE she’ll mate with Thorn, then it meand that they become good. And I REALLY hope Murtagh and Thorn ‘ll return to the good side!  

    • then maybe murtagh and eragon the two step brothers can be closer together

      • Anonymous

        I hope so 😀

        • I just want a happy ending to the end of this cycle

      • Kathryn

        They’re not step-brothers. They’re half-brothers. Same biological mother, different fathers.

        • yeah something like that i dont have a big vocabulary i am only 13 what really broke my heart though was when eragon thought morzan was his father but in the end of brisingr when i heard brom was his father i was so happy

      • Kathryn

        They’re not step-brothers. They’re half-brothers. Same biological mother, different fathers.

  • Jwelde

    We know that at least one dragon will exist in alagaesia after the books because in eragon’s guide to alagaesia the rider has received a female dragon. We also know that galbatorix falls because it says where urubaen ‘was’ while the rest was in present tense.

    • Zoranna

      It was just a guide, so it could feel like you were going through training, not nessicarily what would happen in the books.

    • Zoranna

      It was just a guide, so it could feel like you were going through training, not nessicarily what would happen in the books.

      • Sam

        in a interview CP said that eragon wrote the guide after the battle for alagaesia and that he was planing on returning to Alagaesia after leaving.

        • Zoranna

          Then I stand corrected.

          • Kathryn

            He also said that if you were paying attention while reading the Guide there were clues to things that are going to happen in “Inheritance.”

    • Zoranna

      It was just a guide, so it could feel like you were going through training, not nessicarily what would happen in the books.

  • Prometheuslkr

    I think the dragons have no future… in Alagaesia. I reference Eragon’s mysterious vision from early in the book. The elves are leaving with two dragons flying overhead. I think that Eragon and Arya are leaving the land of Alagaesia for the land of the elves, and taking Saphira and Greeni with them. The dargons will have a great future on a far distant continent

    • TopHat

      Prometheuslkr is a smart guy. finally someone posts a comment in harmony with the books.

    • Flamespike

      Orimis said (or was it Orik? I think Orimis) that dragons have been along since the begining of Alagaesia and that if there were ever and end to the dragons, it would be the end of Alagaseia. (Or something along those linesl.) If the dragons leave, I would consider that an ‘end’.

    • Flamespike

      Orimis said (or was it Orik? I think Orimis) that dragons have been along since the begining of Alagaesia and that if there were ever and end to the dragons, it would be the end of Alagaseia. (Or something along those linesl.) If the dragons leave, I would consider that an ‘end’.

    • Kathryn

      I don’t know. I think there has to be Riders in Alagaesia at some point. “Eragon’s Guide to Alagaesia” was written in a format as if it’s for a Rider living in post-Empire Alagaesia. And CP said that there were clues to “Inheritance” in the Guide, so that must be important.

  • Anonymous

    “Thorn and Murtagh are only acting evilly due to Galbatorix’s control over them…”
    Wouldn’t that apply to Shruikan too? He may not even WANT to serve Galby.  

    • that is true he is forced to do galby’s disgusting needs

    • Zoranna

      He probably doesn’t. Galby killed his rider and stole his HoH. BUT Glaby also twisted him with dark magic, which probably messed with his head. He’s probably like a zombie by now.

  • Ben98Lalonde

    Greeny will probably hatch for Arya (I dont know if it’s a coincidence, but The shur’tugal owning tamerlain’ s name was Arva (close to Arya) and the dragon was green), but I want it to be Roran, he’d be a great rider, but then it might be wired for the dragons to mate…

    • talking about dragon rider’s names don’t you notice Eragon’s name? Era gone like a whole era has been gone and I may be wrong but wasn’t it an era ago when the first dragon rider found the white dragon egg? I think it is a coincedence

      • Eiyra

        ooooh, i like that. C.P did say that Eragon was originally going to be called Kevin, and he also said that Eragon was “dragon” with the first letter being replaced by the next letter in the alphabet: E-dragon…E-ragon…Eragon. But it’s possible he’s resorted to elvish trickery again: only telling part of the truth.
        Era-gone… I love that!Well, except for the part where the dragons go with it…:(

        • Flamespike

          Kevin? Not really a hero’s name xD, like naming a dragon Steven. . . I like Eragon better.

          • Eiyra

            lol, that’s exactly what C.P said. He also said that Keven was an awesome name, just not for a book. Imagine Eragon called “Kevin, first in the Inheritance Cycle.”

          • Flamespike

            I’m gong to go re-read “Kevin” and replace Eragon’s name with Kevin mentally while I read it.

          • Eiyra

            lol, you’re amazing.:)

          • Jackal

            That is genius.

          • Jackal

            That is genius.

          • Eiyra

            lol, that’s exactly what C.P said. He also said that Keven was an awesome name, just not for a book. Imagine Eragon called “Kevin, first in the Inheritance Cycle.”

      • Kathryn

        That’s reaching. The contemporary Eragon was named after the first Rider. This has been mentioned several times in the books. That would mean that the “era gone” would have to have relevant meaning for the original Eragon, since it doesn’t apply to ours. Not everything has a secret meaning.

        Something similar happened in the Harry Potter series with the whole “Drubble’s Best Blowing Gum” wrappers that Neville Longbottom’s mom was giving him. People kept trying to say it was an anagram for some message that she was trying to pass to him. JK Rowling finally had to step in and say it didn’t mean anything; it was just a sad story of a boy trying to connect with his insane parents.

        • Eiyra

          Okay, good point there. It probably is just a fluke, but we don’t know yet. And, it does apply to the first Eragon as well: When Eragon1 found the dragon egg and became the first Rider, he also happened to end the War between the Elves and dragons ( Era-gone) and started the Era of Dragon Riders. Just a thought. It very well may be false. Like I said, we just don’t know yet.

          • That’s what i was thinking if the first Eragon started peace with dragons and elves why can’t the second Eragon start peace with Alagaesia and Galbatorix??????????????

    • TopHat

      that is an excellent point. thoug it is not incest. it does seem to cross traditional matrimonial bounds

    • TopHat

      that is an excellent point. thoug it is not incest. it does seem to cross traditional matrimonial bounds

    • Noodley

      i noticed that! I thought, “hmm . . . coincidence? mwahaha  . . .” because I am an AxE and SxG shipper. 🙂

      Roran’s too perfect . . . I don’t want him to be a rider . . . 🙁

    • Noodley

      i noticed that! I thought, “hmm . . . coincidence? mwahaha  . . .” because I am an AxE and SxG shipper. 🙂

      Roran’s too perfect . . . I don’t want him to be a rider . . . 🙁

  • Pwmller

    I would say no more dragons in Alagaesia.  My theory and it may have already been posted is that Thorn gets killed in Inheritance, Greeny hatches for Arya and Eragons vision of 2 people on a boat looking to shore at a third on his knees with 2 dragons flying overhead…the 2 on the boat are Eragon and Arya and the one on the shore is Murtagh.

  • Tyler H.

    But will Saphira forgive Thorn for delivering the final blow to her mentor, Thorn?

  • Hrothgar

    What about wild dragons? Earlier you said that there were no more “dragons tied to riders” but what about wild dragons being a possible mate for saphira????

    • Denmark111

      You’re right, it is a possibility, but an unlikely on. As already have been stated (don’t ask me where probably some comment halv a  year ago or something), is it very unlikely that any wild dragon would just stand and watch while Galbatorix annihilate the intire race of dragons (in case it didn’t know about the eggs, which i don’t expect it to).

      • Eiyra

        Dragons are sentient. Maybe they relized that the only way to save their race was to protect themselves– hide– not fight Galbatorix, but instead go into hiding, mate, grow their race, until their numbers were so large that they could unseat the king who cause them to have to “hide like rabbits in their den” to quote Saphira. Perhaps in the last book Eragon will return to the Blasted Mountains ( see my post above about du Fells Nagoroth) and find the wild dragons who are ready to kick some butt.Just a guess though.

        • Rainbowemoelk

          I like the theory, but tons of wild dragons would make kind of an easy win, true Galby has tons of HoH, but if all those dragons with all that Eldunari and random bursts or energy, one is bound to kill Galby. It’d be kinda boring if it was an easy win.

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  • Hope you all enjoyed! It’s a bit on the shorter side this week as I had to take a break due to Comic-Con committments (I spent my day traveling and working). I’ll be in Phoenix and San Diego until next Tuesday, so Chris stepped up to help me out.

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    • Prometheuslkr

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      • Peters1612

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