“Big Twenty” – Eragon 1 and Bid’Duam: Their ‘Deaths’ and Roles in Book 4

The Big Twenty is Shur’tugal’s twenty week long series of in depth discussion and theorizing, all centered around twenty core questions, loose ends, and theories in the Inheritance universe. The Big Twenty is the ultimate fan guide to happenings in Book 4 — and we hope you’ll join us for the adventure! To learn more about the Big Twenty, view our announcement article.

Du Fyrn Skulblaka, or The Dragon War, was the terrible war which ultimately led to the formation of the Dragon Riders – a sacred and magical pact originally between elves and dragons to ensure peace between the once-warring races. The legend of Du Fyrn Skulblaka continues to live through the years as a tale of caution to future generations of Alagaesia’s residents. However, with the Fall of the Riders and the rise of Galbatorix, it appears that the lessons of the devastating war have been disregarded.

Legend of the first Eragon, an elf, and his dragon Bid’Duam remains a great inspiration to Alagaësia’s people. Although the race of Dragon Riders has since fallen – Galbatorix and his twisted dragon Shruikan having tarnished all that the sacred bond between dragon and Rider – a glimmer of hope lives on within a young Rider and his dragon who follow paths parallel to Eragon and Bid’Duam: Eragon and Saphira.

Our third Big Twenty article will explore the original Eragon and his dragon, Bid’Duam, as well as their possible deaths and the role they will play – dead or alive – in Inheritance (Book 4).

Christopher Paolini has confirmed that Eragon 1 and Bid’Duam will be involved in Book 4 in some way. His confirmation has left tremendous room for speculation. Fans are polarized: will Eragon 1 and Bid’Duam simply be mentioned in the final book, or will they actually make an appearance?

“Some history or knowledge pertaining to the original Eragon and his dragon, Bid’Duam, will appear in Book 4.”

The fate of Alagaësia’s original dragon and Rider remains unknown; their deaths have never been addressed or confirmed. The role they will play – if not by appearing, by possibly revealing information – will likely remain a mystery until the final book releases. However, speculation may lead us to likely outcomes.

Who were Eragon and Bid’Duam, and what role did they play in Alagaësia?

Eragon 1 and Bid’Duam were the first Rider and dragon in Alagaësia and are singlehandedly credited with ending Du Fyrn Skulblaka, or The Dragon War. This war was ignited by a young and naïve elf who hunted and killed a dragon for sport – enraging the dragons, who immediately retaliated by attacking the elves. Without the means to communicate – dragons do not speak – the elves were unable to ease the growing tension between the races and were forced to defend themselves in war.

The two powerful groups fought long and hard, slowly dooming themselves and each other to extinction, taking Alagaësia with them. It was not until Eragon, a young elf, happened upon an abandoned dragon’s egg that a miracle happened: the egg hatched for Eragon and the pair bonded. Once Bid’Duam was mature enough, Eragon and his dragon traveled together across Alagaësia in an attempt to bring peace between the elves and the dragons.

Destiny saw that the two were responsible for the end of the war after a peace agreement was reached between the leaders of both races. The core of this agreement lead to the creation of the Dragon Riders, an pairing of one elf and one dragon responsible for watching over Alagaësia and ensuring that Alagaësia would not fall to war in the future.

Are the original Rider and his dragon dead or alive?

It is very unlikely that the Eragon 1 and Bid’Duam remain physically alive. Du Fyrn Skulblaka took place many centuries ago, and we know that dragons grow with age. A dragon as old as Bid’Duam (if the dragon were still alive) would likely be the size of an entire continent – and impossible to hide.

As for Eragon 1, it is likely that a being of his importance, stature, and rank would be an incredibly powerful ally in a war such as the one Alagaësia currently faces. Would the original Eragon – the elf responsible for brokering piece among warring factions on his home continent – sit by idly while Galbatorix destroys the peace he worked so hard to ensure for Alagaesia? Very unlikely.

However, it could be possible (though improbable) that Eragon 1 has survived, and if so, would be so ancient that he is physically incapable of much. If this were the case, Eragon 1 would be able to offer valuable wisdom to his allies – the elves, the Varden, and Eragon. But if Eragon 1 was still alive, he certainly would have already shown himself. The longer he waits, the more hostile the conflict grows and the less likely he would be able to help. If the elves were hiding Eragon 1, or if he himself were hiding, it is likely that he would have come out of hiding to aid in the effort or instruct Eragon. His lack of involvement

Some fans have speculated that Tenga may be Eragon 1. While there is no supporting evidence for this theory, readers cite the following qualities as potential evidence:

  • Old, apparently wise
  • Mysterious
  • In-depth knowledge of the ancient language
  • Ability to cast spells without speaking words of power (rare)

This theory holds no merit in our eyes. While interesting to ponder, we simply feel that it is too far-fetched to be true.

Our conclusion (speculation): Eragon 1 is dead, Bid’Duam lives on… as an Eldunari

It is our belief that Eragon 1 and Bid’Duam passed away years ago, living on only through tales of their bravery. However, we believe that Bid’Duam’s Eldunari remains on Alagaësia – either under Galbatorix’s control or lost/hidden. It is possible that Eragon will come to find the Eldunari.

What role will they play in Book 4?

Given the information we have now and time constrictions with Book 4, it’s likely that the role Eragon 1 and Bid’Duam play will be relatively tame and minor. We feel that the most likely scenario revolves around Eragon and Saphira receiving items, knowledge, or communication (passed on throughout the years) from the original dragon and Rider which will aid them in their journey to the gates of Urû’baen. This information could be as simple as advice or as elaborate as hidden spells or the locations of powerful weapons (Vault of Souls?).

It is also certainly possible that Bid’Duam’s Eldunari remains, though its whereabouts – if it exists at all – are clearly unknown. Such an ancient, wise, and important Heart of Hearts would be an invaluable tool in the war. The power that Bid’Duam would be able to contribute through the Eldunari would be incomprehensible. Is this weapon already in Galbatorix’s possession? Could this be hidden, perhaps in the Vault of Souls?

We believe it to be highly unlikely that Eragon or Bid’Duam will make physical appearances in Book 4.

Lingering questions

Christopher has informed fans that we will learn more about Eragon and Bid’Duam in Book 4. It is safe to say that the knowledge we learn will be of use to Eragon or the resistance in some way, rather than simple history or facts. At this point, Eragon and Saphira need all of the assistance they can get their hands on; the odds against them grow by the day. Who better to help – directly or indirectly – than the first Rider and dragon, both directly responsible for restoring peace to Alagaësia?

We want to hear from you! Answer these questions in the comments below:

  • Is Eragon 1 dead or alive?
  • Is Bid’Duam dead or alive?
  • If Bid’Duam is dead, do you believe the Eldunari remains?
  • What role rill Eragon 1 and Bid’Duam play in Book 4?
  • Is there any merit to the “Tenga is Eragon 1” theory?
  • Do Bid’Duam and Eragon 1 have anything to do with the Vault of Souls?
  • Be sure to share your own Eragon 1 and Bid’Duam theories should they not match our own!


  • Guest

    I believe Eragon 1 is most likely dead: however, your statement that he would be so ancient that he is physically incapable of much is misleading.  Rhunon, one of the oldest elves, is at least as old as Eragon 1 would be. She remembers the elves before their pact with the dragons, and she forged ALL of the Riders’ swords, Eragon 1, an elf, being the first Rider. She still actively contributes much skill e.g. sparring with Eragon and forging a new sword.  (Bk 3) The more likely scenario is that, while Eragon 1 is dead,  Bid’Duam’s Eldunari still survives.  Glaedr gave an indication of this when he said that the oldest dragons spent eternity contemplating questions that younger dragons could not understand and that such Eldunari were revered and treasured for their widom.  (Bk 3) Where is this Eldunari?  Most likely it is in the abandoned elf tower near the Boer Mountains that Eragon and Saphira passed on his way to Ellesmera. (Bk 3) Why is it there? Tenga – who I doubt is Eragon 1 because elves do not grow beards – was searching for “a key to an unopened door…fire, heat, lightening, light….” when Eragon met him.  With Angela, Tenga was searching for the number and quality of opals (Eldunari?) at the base of the Boer Mountains.  (Bk 3)  Rock of Kuthian was not in elvish writing (Oromis, BK 3) because it is a dwarvish name.  It would be ironic if it was in the part of the Boers inhabited by the As Sweldn rak Anhuin.  How will Eragon find out where the Rock of Kuthian is located?  He will FINALLY read the book given to him by Joed. (Bk 3)

  • Vakna

    Don’t like these “the spine is a dragon” theories. You’d think history would note something as huge as a mountain range suddenly appearing out of nowhere when the dragon decided to die/sleep, wouldn’t you?

  • sasquatch

    Maybe the last of the dragons are hiding in the spine, this would account for Galby’s soliders dissappearing, and all of the other odd happenings in the spine. People don’t just randomly dissappear, espically whole armies.

  • sasquatch

    Maybe the last of the dragons are hiding in the spine, this would account for Galby’s soliders dissappearing, and all of the other odd happenings in the spine. People don’t just randomly dissappear, espically whole armies.

  • sasquatch

    Maybe the last of the dragons are hiding in the spine, this would account for Galby’s soliders dissappearing, and all of the other odd happenings in the spine. People don’t just randomly dissappear, espically whole armies.

  • sasquatch

    Maybe the last of the dragons are hiding in the spine, this would account for Galby’s soliders dissappearing, and all of the other odd happenings in the spine. People don’t just randomly dissappear, espically whole armies.

  • Emily

    In  Angela’s casting of the bones,  it says that “There is a doom upon you, but of sort i know not.  Part of it lies in a death-one that rapidly approaches and will cause you much grief.  But the rest awaits in a great journy.”  I know some people have said that it might be Saphira.  But what if its Arya?   That would just about cause Eragon to leave Alagasia forever.  And also in Angela’s casting of the bones she says, “I cannot say if this passion will end happily, but your love is of noble birth and heritage.”    Just because Arya rejectid Eragon doesn’t mean thats the end.  What if they do get together and then she dies?

    • Elmiq

      I think that Islanzadi will get killed and Elves will be decimated by Galby. CP said that Elven children will play some role, but they are in Ellesmera so action has to take place there. Probabely Galby will burn it down and as a result after war Elves will leave Alagaesia and head to their native land. Due to this Eragon’s heart will be quite broken between Arya and Roran/Murtagh (the one who will be the king – Imo Thorn dies, Roran Dies, Murtagh rules FTW).

    • Jackal

      ‘Part of it lies in a death’, yeah, brom’s!!!

  • Mb

    isn’t the elven blacksmith from before the war… if she is from then and shes perfectly healthy (plus an adequate sordswomen)why cant earagon1 be alive 

  • DUDEYOUJACKEDMYCAR!!

    “Is there any merit to the “Tenga is Eragon 1” theory?”
    Correct me if i’m wrong, but Cp said there will be know more surprise DR’s.
    We already know about Tenga so it wouldnt be a “surprise”.
    Also My theori is that Eargon I and Eragon Have the same true name…Maybe Eargon one put Bi’daums (ik i spelled it incorrectly.)Heart of Hearts in the vault(maybe before or during the Dragons fall.)Of souls.And he expected to come back and speak  HIS true name, but died before he could.Eargon and Eragon I having the same name would enable Eragon to open it….Thats my theorie.

  • Proke999

    What if the spine isn’t actually a living Bid’daum but his body. The Rock of Kuthian could have been made by Eragon 1 in his old age with the intentions of Bid’daum protecting it. Slowly, Bid’daum died for whatever reason and nature took over and his body became the base for the mountain range. Or perhaps instead of dying he “embedded” his body magically into nature as a means to protect the Rock of Kuthian. My main reasoning for this theory is that if an old dragon died, someone would have to have seen the carcass. Also maybe it is just me, but I cannot see Paolini just letting dragons bodies rot into the ground. As magical beings I fully expect something to happen that lets them die gracefully.

    • Vakna

      Don’t like these “the spine is a dragon” theories. You’d think history would note something as huge as a mountain range suddenly appearing out of nowhere when the dragon decided to die/sleep, wouldn’t you?

  • Amyga

    I feel that Eragon1 might still be alive, but if he is he returned to wherever the elves came from originally. As far as Bid’Daum goes, his Eldunari is probably at the Vault/RoK, but he’s no longer physically alive. His body is the Spine. Since it’s no longer living, that could explain why trees/etc grew there.

    • TheMuffinMan

      If Eragon1 was still alive, would he not bring his dragon’s Eldunari with him? 

      • Amyga

        Not necessarily. Obviously it would be a really huge store of energy/knowledge, so it’s understandable that he might’ve hidden it somewhere (Vault/RoK) for future Riders to use.

  • Shrrgnien

    Eragon I could easily be alive because Rhunon is alive and she made the swords for the Dragon Riders, and she was around during Du Fryn Skulblaka

  • Beerski

    Personally I always thought that the Spine was a huge dragon that fell asleep. Now that I think about it, the Spine easily could be Bid’Duam. Thoughts?

    • One2love4ever89

      why would there be trees and water falls on him then?

  • Spiral

    Here is a crazy twist for you…what if the ceremony (where Eragon 2 became part elf) was the spirit of Eragon 1 and Bid’Duam, and the actual elf qualities Eragon 2 obtained is actually Eragon 1 becoming part of Eragon 2? lol now that is just plain crazy

    • Louis Moon

      Well, opinions are opinions and all of them are possible. 🙂

    • One2love4ever89

      twisted but i like it

    • Bid’DaumSaphira

      one of the better theories

  • Elmiq

    We have to remember that someone is going to imprison Eragon 2 (not Galby) so actually first Eragon could possibly do that easily for breaking into the Vault, without knowing E2 reasons. Tenga could be E1 as well as he is quite skilled and may get mad after E2 questions about Vault ? Who knows ? Also Bid’Daum could be as huge as some mountains in the Spine, so maybe he is the one alive. Both options will be ok for me, but maybe CP thought about something completely different.
    Anyway, if in the end, Roran is going to charge through Castle/battlefield/anything and kill Galby with his BIG Hammer I’m going to kill myself. 

  • Elmiq

    We have to remember that someone is going to imprison Eragon 2 (not Galby) so actually first Eragon could possibly do that easily for breaking into the Vault, without knowing E2 reasons. Tenga could be E1 as well as he is quite skilled and may get mad after E2 questions about Vault ? Who knows ? Also Bid’Daum could be as huge as some mountains in the Spine, so maybe he is the one alive. Both options will be ok for me, but maybe CP thought about something completely different.
    Anyway, if in the end, Roran is going to charge through Castle/battlefield/anything and kill Galby with his BIG Hammer I’m going to kill myself. 

    • One2love4ever89

      i think e2 gets imprisoned trying to steal the green egg?

      • Timmytiger1

        if he did Galby would probably cast some spell or maim e2 so that e2 couldent fight

      • TheMuffinMan

        It was also confirmed that Galby wasn’t the one who imprisoned him.

      • RSD

        Or maybeee, those dwarves that don’t like him capture him, even though they have been banished, they might cross paths.. 

        Orr, the Urgals for some reason? Maybe something happens? Perhaps Nasuada’s cousins who wanted to take over in ruling the Varden but failed..

        Or it could be by someone / some people he is yet to encounter!

  • Vrael

    Its pretty safe to assume that after the Dragon War ended, Eragon 1 and Bid’Daum took up the mantle as The First Leaders of the Riders. Although it was mentioned that Galbatorix attempted and often succeeded in forcing dragons to give up their hearts during his takeover, and therefore we can determine that not all dragons had separated from their hearts, it isn’t farfetched to assume that dragons over the centuries decided to give up their Eldunari. The two purposes this serves is 1. While they and their Rider lives, to maintain contact and powershare across long distances, and 2. To empower the future generations of Riders, even after the death of either or both Rider and Dragon. So lets entertain this idea:
    -Dragons, as they either die or settle down in their old age and become mentors, decide to “donate” their Eldunari to future generations of Riders.
    -The leader, Eragon 1, decides that in order to protect the hearts, a Vault must be established to keep out the unwelcome.
    -“Speak your name to open the Vault of Souls” The password to access the Vault is “Eragon” or possibly “Brisingr” assuming thats Eragon’s true name.)
    -Eldunari could be loaned to Riders who were sent on missions. (Example: Irnstad’s battle with the shade he killed would have been easier managed with a few Eldunari in his satchel.)
    -For security purposes, only the current leader of the Riders knows the location and password of the RoK/VoS. (Explaining why Oromis never mentioned it.)
    -I could also see that a spell was cast by Vrael or others before he fell at Utgard to erase any memories of The RoK/VoS to prevent Galbatorix from ultimate power.

    As to Bid’Daum being the Spine, no way. Its an extremely interesting idea, and sounds appropriate with the “ancient dragons could sometimes be mistaken for large hills” quote, but c’mon guys. A mountain range suddenly waking up and saving the day? No. I do like the idea that the RoK/VoS is located in the Spine, as thats where Sapphira’s egg was found and because thats the one place still shrouded in true mystery in these books besides Vroengard. Oh, and because Galbatorix has twice had misfortune there, first with the death of his original dragon, and then when he tried to march his army through the area.
    And now we come to Tenga being Eragon 1. Many facts point to this being possible. First off, he is completely bananas. This is an extremely telling sign, as its common that Riders lose their sanity when their dragon dies. His extensive knowledge in the ancient language also helps, along with Angela being his pupil. Who better to teach her all her mysterious powers than one who has had thousands of years to develop secret magical arts? Besides the fact that he can cast spells without any energy spent. The fact that he has a beard and that elves don’t grow them doesn’t sway me, as Bloedgharm has a full pelt. And yet, even with all these points, I don’t like the idea that Tenga is Eragon 1. He just isn’t how I want the first Rider to turn out if he has managed to live all this time. But still, an extremely intriguing twist. 

    Hit me with any comments, new theories, anything!

    Btw, Shoutout to Vrael, hes my favorite.

    • Vrael

      A few more notes…
      -Vroengard is an island, standing apart from Alagaesia. This was the Rider’s home of old, and it is here I’m predicting Eragon will take up permanent residence at some point after the fall of The Empire. Maybe he gets injured or crippled in some way, and decides to stay on Vroengard and tutor the new generations of Riders for the rest of his existence, fulfilling Angela’s prophecy by never again returning to the mainland. Possibly, and I hate thinking this, Saphira dies in the end, and the loss pains Eragon too much to want to return. I know that she is the only female dragon, but maybe her death occurs after she pumps out a few babies or something. Depressing thought I know..
      -The dragons vanished without a trace when Galbatorix took over. It never outright states that they were all killed off, which gives me the small hope that they will be making a comeback in the final book. Maybe, just maybe, the RoK/VoS contains some way of contacting the living dragons, and that they return to provide Eragon the power he needs to take down Galbatorix or something.
      -Its been mentioned that theres a good chance Galbatorix would die if he learned his true name, and that anyone who uses it would also die, and I have a feeling this will also play a part in the end. Maybe someone (Sapphira) sacrifices themself by using the name in front of Galbatorix, effectively killing him without having to overpower him. This seems like a solution to the problem of Galbatorix being all powerful.

      My mind is bursting with ideas guys, more to come 😀

      • Louis

        What I’m going to say right now is really minor just a correction. In your first post, you said Saphira’s egg was found in the Spine. It didn’t magically appear out of the RoK/VoS (If they even exist in the Spine) it was sent by Arya to Eragon because Arya thought that Eragon was Brom (Father and son.)

    • Kathryn

      It never said that Tenga could cast spells without energy spent. It says he casts spells without using the ancient language.

  • One2love4ever89

    I was thinking maybe the e1 went back to the elf home land? or maybe they are dead but they say a shade comes in book 4 maybe e1 is the shade who joins with e2 to kill gal and restore his world to peace and retrives Bid’Duam heart from the spine where it rest hiddin from the world? idk if they have ever said there was a good shade but hell y not

    • One2love4ever89

      another thought would be that the rok is in the dwaf tunnels it was said that it is very complex in there and back before the elves can the dwarfs fought with the dragons so maybe its a hidden cave that the dragons of the old used to store them in? anythoughts?

      • Jackal

        Some Dwarves, the mad ones that live in the tunnels alone all the time would have found it by now.

  • One2love4ever89

    I was thinking maybe the e1 went back to the elf home land? or maybe they are dead but they say a shade comes in book 4 maybe e1 is the shade who joins with e2 to kill gal and restore his world to peace and retrives Bid’Duam heart from the spine where it rest hiddin from the world? idk if they have ever said there was a good shade but hell y not

  • Eiyra

    hey, I know this is stretching it a bit… but we all know that C.P. said that at one point in the book ” Eragon was hanging bloodied from manicles in a dungeon other than Galbatorix’s.” What, if like the elves, he was only telling part of the truth and this was really Eragon1? I know it’s a stretch, but tell me what you think.

  • Miya

    I dont really think Eragon 1 is alive, and if he is, he may not be very capable. IF hes alive, then he is much more “handicapped” then Oromis was, like maybe Bid’daum dies and Eragon 1 went crazy, like Galbatorix crazy (maybe more so, but in a different way?) If Eragon 1 is alive then that could be a reason that Eragon Bomsson leaves and never returns: hes looking for Eragon 1.
    Or maybe its a different scenario, where Eragon 1 is dead but Bid’daum is alive, or hes an Eldunari (im personally holding onto the slim chance that the Spine is Bid’daum, every since i saw that map i thought it looked like a dragon or something!)
    Anyway, so Eragon gets to somehow communicate with Bid’daum and thats how he gets advice. I dont think Bid’daum i truly dead, but i hope he will finally get to rest by the end of the final book (is that weird?)
    im actually hoping we will hear a much more in depth story on Eragon 1 and Bid’Daum, too, becuase when did Eragon learn Bid’Daum’s name? He didnt (Bid’Daum was always a dragon so great we never got the name right, or am i mistaken?), so something must happen in Inheritence in which Eragon learns ALOT more about Dragon Rider history, which i will like 🙂
    Another thing, kind of off topic is, what if Saphira dies? I really hope I am wrong but it makes sense: it explains why Eragon would leave and never come back, and i read somewhere that there was a death that made CP shed some tears, and i think we’d alllll cry if Eragon lost Saphira. I hope im wrong, but i thought i shoud share the theory.

    • Eiyra

      Um, Oromis was hadicapped cuz Galbatorix really badly injured him when he was being tortued after the Fall.
      You’re forgetting that Rhunon was perfectly capable in Eldest and Brisingr, and that she was alive BEFORE the Riders were FORMED, and witnessed Bid’Daum and Eragon 1 in real life. So either Bid’daum and Eragon 1 are dead, or somehow imprisioned somewhere. Or they just don’t care what happens to Alagaesia, which I find highly unlikely.

    • Guest

      Um, I think Roran dies. I read a couple of chapters off the internet. One of them suggests something terrible happens to Roran.  It WOULD make sense, what with Katrina being pregnant and everything, plus Eragon being so close to him. Makes sense CP cried about his death. Also, in a dream he had (I think in book 1) it said he (Eragon Bromsson) had a vision of him with a lady on a boat with two dragons flying overhead. It doesnt sound like Saphira dies, from that point. Nice theory, though 🙂

  • Tara

    Okay people hear me out.  This is pretty random, but I don’t think theres a fitting place to discuss this.  In Brisingr on pages 350-352 the injured swordsman who Eragon talks to says: 

    “You cannot fool me, Shadeslayer.  I know better.  The world burns around me , and from the fire, I hear the whispers of minds, and I learn things from the whispers.  You hide yourself from me now, but i can still see you, a man of yellow flame with twelve stars floating around your waist and another star brighter than the others upon your right hand.” 
    and also 
    “I saw your brother, and he burned.  But he did not burn like you.  Oh no.  the light from his soul shone through him, as if it came from somewhere else.  He, he was a void.  A shape of a man.  And through that shape came the brilliance that burned…” 
     and then 
     “I could feel them close at hand, raging in the world as if they hated everything in it, but their bodies were hidden from my sight…” and ends by saying “like the largest thunderstorm you’ve ever seen crammed into a tiny glass bottle.”
     
    I am pretty convinced that this man will play a big role in Inheritance.  Maybe, just maybe HE will help Eragon find the Vault of Souls/ other Eldunari.  He seems quite good at sensing magic and energy itself.  If he could feel the emotions of the Eldunari from a distance, through Murtagh…  I think its clear he has a helpful ability.  And if Eragon 1 or Bid’Duam are still around in some way, who better could find them? 
    I really hope there is going to be a whole discussion about this. 
     
     
     
     

    • Eiyra

      hey, you reminded me of something: Murtagh was a void. What is that supposed to mean? Was Murtagh somesort of apparation, like when they hid Eragon leaving the Varden’s camp in Brisingr? Just a thought.

      • Kathryn

        This has already been cleared up. The injured man’s decription of Murtagh’s light coming not from him but through him was a reference to the Eldunari that Murtagh got from Galbatorix. It meant that he wasn’t using his own power and/or energy.

        • RSD

          Yeah and the “I could feel them close at hand, raging in the world as if they hated everything in it, but their bodies were hidden from my sight, like the largest thunderstorm you’ve ever seen crammed into a tiny glass bottle.” describes the Elundari that he was using.

  • Luke

    i havent read all the comments so i dont know if this has been adressed but i think i remember tenga having a beard… elves cant grow beards and eragon 1 was an elf. another point to make is that rhunon would be just as old as eragon because she was alive before the dragons and elves were joined. this is significant because tenga was described as looking very old while rhunon is still spry with only a few signs of her age.  if tenga were eragon 1 he would not be described as he was.

  • Luke

    i havent read all the comments so i dont know if this has been adressed but i think i remember tenga having a beard… elves cant grow beards and eragon 1 was an elf. another point to make is that rhunon would be just as old as eragon because she was alive before the dragons and elves were joined. this is significant because tenga was described as looking very old while rhunon is still spry with only a few signs of her age.  if tenga were eragon 1 he would not be described as he was.

  • justin

    has anyone thought that the vault of souls is really just a hiding place for the heart of hearts?  if they consider their heart of hearts to be there souls then it would make sence

    • Kathryn

      Yes, only about 99% of the people who posted on this article have thought of that. 🙂

      • TheMuffinMan

        lol

  • Diegomoralescgu

    I think that maybe Eragon 1 is Tenga or that they are within the vault of souls waititng to make a test for eragon to pass in

  • Sherryroberts1967

    I know that Broms dragon was killed.  Does it ever say in the books what happened to Broms dragons Eldurari? 

    • Diegomoralescgu

      I don’t remember well but i think that his dragon did not decided to pass his mind to her eldunari

      • Kathryn

        We don’t know.

    • Eschwartz

      yeah, his dragon died. that means his eldunari wasn’t used, or shed be alive, just not with all her body. and don’t say brom didn’t know she entered her eldunari, since he didn’t know of them, because he’d still sense his Bonded, and be like “what the heck, shes dead but i still feel her presence”

    • Eschwartz

      yeah, his dragon died. that means his eldunari wasn’t used, or shed be alive, just not with all her body. and don’t say brom didn’t know she entered her eldunari, since he didn’t know of them, because he’d still sense his Bonded, and be like “what the heck, shes dead but i still feel her presence”

  • Sherryroberts1967

    I know this may be a little off topic, but does anyone remember Angela talking about loosing a VERY important cyrstal?  Could this crystal be Eldurari?

    • Eiyra

      I know Angela’s kinda eccentric, but I think that  even she would know not to gamble with a Dragon’s eldunari. And it’s possible that she didn’t know what it was, but wouldn’t the dragon in the Eldunari have contacted her once it sensed her intention to gamble it? It’s possible, I guess, but I dunno, I just don’t see a dragon letting itself be treated like an object.

    • Eschwartz

      eldunari are made of a weird organic rock-like substance, probably keratin like your teeth, but DEFINITELY not see-through crystal

      • TheMuffinMan

        Actually, it was said that the eldunari were made of a faceted substance like crystal. how else would eragon be able to see eddies and currents floating around inside?

    • Eschwartz

      eldunari are made of a weird organic rock-like substance, probably keratin like your teeth, but DEFINITELY not see-through crystal

  • Eiyra

    What if… someone–not necessarily Galbatorix– had trapped Eragon 1 and/or Bid’Daum somewhere. Total speculation, but possible.
    And another thing: what if Eragon 1 created the Vault of Souls to protect the rider’s Eldunarya, and magically hid the name Rock of KUthian from everyone’s memory like when the dragon’s banished the Forsworn’s names? Maybe Eragon(2) can remember the name because of a loop hole in the spell; Eragon 1 figured no one else would have his name, so he left himself, and consequently Eragon 2 out of the spell. Hence the “speak your name to open the Vault of Souls” in Solembum’s prophecy.
    Sorry, a little off topic, but  I thought I’d speculate about the Eragon 1 and Vault of Souls question above.

    • Miya

      I dont really think Eragon 1 is alive, but wat you said about th Rock of Kuthian totally makes sense! everyone seems to have heard of it, but almost no one rembers wat the heck it is. Actually, im not even sure Eragon 1 or his dragon have anything to do with it at all, but really, wat is the rock of kuthian? Mybe someone else charmed it….. Oh, and some idea just came to me, im not really sure if i myself believe it myself, but maybe like Bid’Daum’s eldunari is the rock of kuthian…? its just a weird theory. but it would make sense if Eragon 1 made everyone forget about the rock of Kuthian because it is his dragon’s Eldunari, or has something to do with Bid’Daum’s Eldunari at least.

    • Miya

      I dont really think Eragon 1 is alive, but wat you said about th Rock of Kuthian totally makes sense! everyone seems to have heard of it, but almost no one rembers wat the heck it is. Actually, im not even sure Eragon 1 or his dragon have anything to do with it at all, but really, wat is the rock of kuthian? Mybe someone else charmed it….. Oh, and some idea just came to me, im not really sure if i myself believe it myself, but maybe like Bid’Daum’s eldunari is the rock of kuthian…? its just a weird theory. but it would make sense if Eragon 1 made everyone forget about the rock of Kuthian because it is his dragon’s Eldunari, or has something to do with Bid’Daum’s Eldunari at least.

      • Eiyra

        the reason I said that Eragon 1 created the Vault/RoK was because it was the only way I could think of that would leave Eragon 2 out of the spell, so he could remember the name Kuthian. It would make sense for Eragon1 to want to hide Bid’daum’s eldunari, but I don’t think that it accually is the RoK. If only for the reason that Solembum said, “go to the RoK and speak your name to open the vault of souls” ,  as far as we know, uh, eldunarya don’t “open” and souls is plural, and unless Bid’Daum had more than one soul, he couldn’t be the Vault of Souls. 

    • Miya

      I dont really think Eragon 1 is alive, but wat you said about th Rock of Kuthian totally makes sense! everyone seems to have heard of it, but almost no one rembers wat the heck it is. Actually, im not even sure Eragon 1 or his dragon have anything to do with it at all, but really, wat is the rock of kuthian? Mybe someone else charmed it….. Oh, and some idea just came to me, im not really sure if i myself believe it myself, but maybe like Bid’Daum’s eldunari is the rock of kuthian…? its just a weird theory. but it would make sense if Eragon 1 made everyone forget about the rock of Kuthian because it is his dragon’s Eldunari, or has something to do with Bid’Daum’s Eldunari at least.

  • Kerusso

    Also the Spine could be Bid’daum….

    • Eiyra

      good point. I mean, that would explain why all of Galbitorix’s soldiers disapeared. I mean, who would hate the tyrant King more? plus, I believe that the end of the spine was refered to as it’s “tail ” in Eldest.

      • Amyga

        It may just be Bid’Daum’s body, and his Eldunari is elsewhere.

      • Amyga

        It may just be Bid’Daum’s body, and his Eldunari is elsewhere.

    • Arya<3

      yeah but what if Bi’duam got hungry? the front of his head would have to be somewhere.

  • Kerusso

    I think the Menoa Tree might say that Eragon and Saphira must leave Alagaesia to Vroengard, because she said “Fire Must Be Extinguished….”

    • BitingWound

      The Menoa Tree was responding to Saphira’s remark that dragons are fire.

      • Kathryn

        Actually, she was responding to Eragon’s comment that she couldn’t kill Saphira because she was the last female dragon. The Menoa tree’s comment was something like, “Dragons breathe fire. Fire must be extingquished.”

  • Tara

    Sorry again that this doesn’t really fit in with the Eragon 1 and Bid’Duam theme but its about Eragon Bromsson leaving Alagaesia forever/ Menoa Tree taking something from him.  What if the Menoa Tree took his “immortality” and eventually he’s just going to die?  Angela never said when he’d leave Alagaesia.  Just that he’d never again “stand” there.  She doesn’t know where he’d end up, but no one really does.  About the timing of when Eragon’s Guide… is written,  it could still be before he dies.  Isn’t it pretty much everyone’s fate to no longer stand in Alagaesia eventually? 

    • Kathryn

      Not true about the “stand[ing] there” part of the prophecy. The actual line is: Your fate will be to leave this land forever.”

      I don’t think the Menoa tree took Eragon’s immortality, either. The very first part of the prophecy is that Eragon will have an extraordinarily long life.

    • Eschwartz

      then that would be a very stupid prophecy. “oh, by the way, just like everyone in existence, your fate is to one day die?”

    • Eschwartz

      then that would be a very stupid prophecy. “oh, by the way, just like everyone in existence, your fate is to one day die?”

  • anonymous

    maybe tenga is eragon 1 and he has his dragon’s eldunari with him…

  • anonymous

    maybe tenga is eragon 1 and he has his dragon’s eldunari with him…

  • Louis Moon

    Oh wait I was reading this article on dragons and it shows that Brom once said “The most ancient dragons could be confused for hills or small mountains because of their size.” and that’s nowhere near the size of a continent.

  • Louis Moon

    Or maybe it won’t work but who cares. If you think my opinions are good, like them or reply to me. Anyways as said already as dragons grow in size with age, that means Bid’Daum would already be the size of a small continent and impossible to hide. Unless not in Alagesia which could have something to do with Eragon being banished. Or Eragon 1 could have used a spell to somehow either hide Bid’Daum or shrink him like Galbatorix did with Thorn. If that’s right, then that means there’s a big chance of Tenga being Eragon 1 since he will make a reappearence.

    • Arya<3

      But C.P. said there would be no new riders. So Tenga can’t be eragon 1 if Bid’uam is alive.

      • Ctemgem

        but he was introduced in brisngr

        • Arya<3

          he means other than galbatorix. I’m pretty sure he was clear on what he meant, but maybe it was a trick.

    • am6744

      He could be hiding under the Hadarac Desert.

  • mJOLNIr500

    Ok?

  • mJOLNIr500

    But one thing I still don’t get is how/why Eragon Bromson is going to be banished from Alagesia. Maybe with the Rock of Kuthian or Vault of Souls he gains so much power like Galbatorix and everyone thinks that’s wrong so they send him away. Another idea I have that is HIGHLY unlikely is that he dies. Or maybe he does die but somebody bring him back to life.
    P.S. I’m Louis but I just changed my name.

    • Eiyra

      Uh, Saphira would go bonkers and like kill everything in sight, plus what about the dream from the begging of Eragon? so far Eragon’s witnessed all of his “Very vivid dreams” in real life. So he has to phisically leave Alagaesia on a ship, not as someone passing into the void.I don’t mean to totally dis the idea ( I know one person who likes the idea very much of Eragon dying, since they hated the book) i’m just saying, that if Eragon does die, he’d have to be either reincarnated or like revived somehow, so he could fulfill the prophecy. Just like yah said.

      • Kathryn

        I’ve seen a lot of theories like this, but there are a couple of things I would like to point out. First, we don’t know whether Eragon is one of the people getting on the ship or the one staying and letting out a wail. Or maybe he was the one actually watching the whole thing. That’s what happened in the vision he had about the hand. It was almost like reverse deja vu.

        Second, we don’t know if the ship was leaving Alagaesia to go somewhere else or leaving somewhere else to return to Alagaesia. Or maybe neither. It’s just a LOT of assumptions being made.

        • Louis Moon

          I remember in Book 1 when Eragon was asking questions to Brom, one of the questions was where the elves came from. He said a land far far away which they called Alaea or something and maybe they came on a ship. IF Eragon 1 and Bid’Daum or alive or at least mentally capable like an Eldunari, they could be there. Or maybe the fight with Eragon and Galbatorix just destroy Alagaesia and everyone has to leave later.

        • Eiyra

          good point, but I wasn’t saying he had to leave on that ship, I was saying he had to live to witness that event, or, at least that’s what I meant. Pretty much what I was saying was that Eragon couldn’t diie in the last book, I mean, who else is there to tell the story’s point of veiw from after he dies? A greif striken Saphira, who would ( like I said) want to tair apart everything in sight with anger and madness. I’m just saying Eragon dying to fulfil the prophacy of him “leave Alagasia forever and never returning” just isn’t gonna happen.  C.P. wouldn’t do that to a charcter ( especially THE MAIN charactr) he’s spent three books  developing, and it would be a really bad ending. Eragon would have to be revived somehow to end the book properly, which doesn’t really count as ” never returning.” very well, does it?

      • Kathryn

        I’ve seen a lot of theories like this, but there are a couple of things I would like to point out. First, we don’t know whether Eragon is one of the people getting on the ship or the one staying and letting out a wail. Or maybe he was the one actually watching the whole thing. That’s what happened in the vision he had about the hand. It was almost like reverse deja vu.

        Second, we don’t know if the ship was leaving Alagaesia to go somewhere else or leaving somewhere else to return to Alagaesia. Or maybe neither. It’s just a LOT of assumptions being made.

    • Kathryn

      Nowhere does it say that Eragon will be banished from Alagaesia. The prophecy is that he will LEAVE Alagaesia, never to return.

    • Eiyra

      Er, what about the part of Angela’s prophecy where Eragon’s gonna have a VERY LONG LIFE. If he dies before the end of book four, it wouldn’t have been very long.

  • Louis Moon

    Fesc, I honestly think that’s impossible. The only thing that I think involves Angela right now that is really important is the werecats because they’re apparently scared of her or something. If she somehow makes them disabled in any way that would affect the Varden. (Read excerpt form Inheritance.

    • Eiyra

      but what about her involvement with Tenga? C.P. said he’d be brought back in Inheritance, and he obviously had something to do with her.

  • Fesc

    What if angela brings back eragon 1 as a shade?

    • Arya<3

      I don’t think Angela is a sorcerer. She might have something to do with shades, but not being able to summon one.

    • Kathryn

      Angela has said that she “loathes” shades. Why would she do that? And is that even possible?

  • Jbailey2088

    The Vault of Souls is a place that Eragon Shadeslayer is supposed to go to to recieve the the power needed to win. It is also a place that everyone say they have heard of, however no one knows how they know of it or where they heard of it. In my opinion it is an ancient resting place for the dragons heart of hearts and the dragons erased it from the memories of people to protect these hearts. Eragon I and Bid’Daum decided they would protect the vault when they stepped down as the leaders of the riders, over the years Bid’Daum grew to big and Eragon to old they can no longer leave the vault to help. When Eragon enters the vault in book 4 he will find the 2 and Eragon will tell him all he knows and Bid’Daum will give him his heart thus giving Eragon his strength.

    Also its strange that Eragon was given the name of the first rider, a name rarely given becuase of the POWER it holds. I think that the name is what opens the vault.

    • Kathryn

      Actually, it’s the Rock of Kuthian that everyone says sound familiar.

      • Eiyra

        yah, but Solembum said “Go to the Rock of Kuthian and speak your name to open the vault of souls” so maybe the Vault is in th RoK.

  • Gast12

    “and if so, would be so ancient that he is physically incapable of much.” You know Rhunön (sp? didn’t read the books for a while now) lived before the dragonrider were “created”. And she isn’t anywhere near physically incapable.

  • Louis Moon

    Now I just read fifty of your comments and according to the article that I read and the comments that you guys are posting, I think that it is highly unlikely that Eragon 1 and Bid’Duam are physically alive so the most we can hope for is Bid’Daum’s Eldunari being somewhere safe. But also according to your comments, since they don’t have a proper bond there are many possibilities such as them melding minds and bodies like Eragon and Saphira did in Book 1 but keeping it permanent somehow and solidifying into possibly an Ultra Eldunari. Just my opinions.

    • Lil Uhura

      No where in the series does it say that Eragon 1 and Bid’Daum weren’t properly bonded.  Just because something isn’t explicitly written down doesn’t mean that it didn’t happen in the story.  And just how practical would it be to have to undergo the Blood-Oath Celebration to complete the bond only every 100 years?  Our Eragon and Saphira certainly didn’t need the Celebration to formalize their bond, just Saphiras hatching for him did it.

      • Eschwartz

        but the blood- oath celebration is a CELEBRATION, of the bond that was formalized with the pact-spell, AFTER Bid’daum hatched. but i think that they couldve linked eragon 1 and bid’daum during the spell too

  • justme…

    hey i just had an idea: Bid’Daum’s eldunari is the ‘vault of souls’ (and is of course hidden in the ‘rock kuthian’) but( soulS’ could mean both Bid’Daum’s and eragon 1’s souls/consciousnesses/whatever you wanna call it or it could just be Bid’Daum)  ‘woult’ is just a play of words from solbum, he just means the ability to communicate with the eldunari

    • Kathryn

      What makes you think that the Vault of Souls and the Rock of Kuthian are together or part of the same structure. There’s no evidence supporting or even suggesting that as far as I’m aware. And I seriously doubt that the Vault of Souls is word play. If Eragon needed to Vault of Souls in order to communicate with eldunari, then he wouldn’t have been able to see into Glaedr’s thoughts at the end of “Brisingr.”

      • Eiyra

        Uh, just saying, unless the Rock of Kuthian is some portal to the Vault of Souls , I doubt Solembum would have said ” Go to the Rock of Kuthian and speak your name to open the Vault of Souls.” if he meant the Rock of Kuthian and the Vault of Souls are in two seperate places. It would be like someone telling you to “Go to you friends house and knock on the tree in the frount yard to open the door.” It makes no sense.

  • Arya<3

    Did Paolini actually say that Eragon 1 is going to be present? Or did he just we get information regarding them? We might be assuming a lot here

  • Arya<3

    Did Paolini actually say that Eragon 1 is going to be present? Or did he just we get information regarding them? We might be assuming a lot here

  • Arya<3

    Did Paolini actually say that Eragon 1 is going to be present? Or did he just we get information regarding them? We might be assuming a lot here

  • Tara

    Sorry that last comment didn’t really fit the topic.  On topic now,  I think that Eragon 1 is dead since CP did say there would be no more suprise riders and dragons.  I definately hope the Spine is related to everything.  There was just so much mystery to it in Eragon and then it was barely mentioned.  It would be ironic if the Spine was actually a spine but I was kind of hoping for werecats to be responsible for the weird things happening there.  My guess is that Bid’Duam’s eldunari will assist Eragon and Saphira IF he’s actually involved in Inheritance at all.    I have a question though,  shouldn’t Saphira inherit something?  Maybe Iormungr or Vervada’s eldunari?

  • Tara

    I read other comments about this so I got to thinking about it.  Since most of the rest of Angela and Solembum’s  prophecies were not really straightfoward and were somewhat  of riddles I  think there is more to just Eragon leaving Alagaesia forever.    “Your fate will be to leave this land forever.  Where you will end up I know not, but you will never again stand in Alagaesia.” I feel like something is then often overlooked in the next part.  “An epic romance… strong enough to OUTLAST EMPIRES…”  Galby’s EMPIRE right now is Alagaesia.  If he is overthrown, if someone or a council steps in, will the place still really be Alagaesia?  When she says what she does, is she referring to the continent or the empire?  Just the fact she then follows up with a phrase containing “outlast empires” gives me at least the impression that an empire will come to pass.  Maybe its nothing, but I found it interesting.

    • Aplussoccerkid

      I think you’ve got a good point. I find it interesting as well.

    • Fairth

      I LOVE this idea, albeit with a twist.  What if the name of the land Alagaesia changes, and with it the TRUE name as well.  This would correspond to the shifting of power, and to the change of its destiny.

      This would also raise another question.  What if Galby is looking for the true name of Alagaesia.  It would be much easier to find than the true name of the Ancient Language, and it would have a similar (if less potent) effect as to the control everything inside the borders.

      • Tara

        Thanks, its funny you say that because I was trying to remember if places have real names,  and if they do that would only make sense.  And I agree with your twist haha

      • Eiyra

        Hey, could that count as Eragon ” leaving Alagaesia, even though he didn’t phisically leave it? And to whoever it is that it is that keeps insisting that Eragon’s Guide to Alagaesia is written post-empire period, I’ll remind you that this website is set up to speculate. Perhaps Eragon is refering to what Alagaesia was like When Alagaesia was still called Alagaesia. There is plenty about that time frame ( Glaedr, b4 he died, stuff about Galbatorix), but he wrote it ‘after the Empire fell.” Perhaps it was a homage to the country that he grew up in, before the name was changed. Of course, I don’t mean to say that Alagaesia really will change it’s name, but it’s possible.

        • Fairth

          In effect, yes, it would (as I see it anyway).  Or, more accurately, it would make it unnecessary to leave because, by the “laws” of magic, Alagaesia wouldn’t exist anymore.

          Also, with a slight revision to my previous theory, the true name of the land could change without the normal name being changed (e.g. Eragons true name could change, but he wouldn’t necessarily cease to be called Eragon).  This revised theory isn’t as strong because it resorts to some trickery that I’m not sure C.P. would want to use, and because the prophesy specifically said Alagaesia, so it depends on if the prophesy is linked to the name or the true name (in effect the definition of everything that is Alagaesia).

    • Fairth

      I LOVE this idea, albeit with a twist.  What if the name of the land Alagaesia changes, and with it the TRUE name as well.  This would correspond to the shifting of power, and to the change of its destiny.

      This would also raise another question.  What if Galby is looking for the true name of Alagaesia.  It would be much easier to find than the true name of the Ancient Language, and it would have a similar (if less potent) effect as to the control everything inside the borders.

    • Kathryn

      Actually, the Empire is PART of Alagaesia. The same way that Surda, Du Weldenvarden, etc. are all part of Alagaesia. It’s kind of like countries on a continent. So yes, even after the fall of the Empire it’s still called Alagaesia. You also have to consider that “Eragon’s Guide to Alagaesia” is written from a post-Empire perspective, and Eragon still calls it Alagaesia.

      • Fairth

        True, but the name could change if the races elf, man, and dwarf decide to give it a new name.  Regardless of that though, the true name could still change.

        • Jbailey2088

          Before it was called Alagaesia it was known as the Brooding Kingdom (Might of spelled the wrong). It was said in the Brisingr that this name was still on official papers but no longer had a meaning since Galby took over. It could be that once the war is ended this could become the lands name once again

          • Kathryn

            You also have to consider that “Eragon’s Guide to Alagaesia” is written from a post-Empire perspective, and Eragon still calls it Alagaesia.

          • Eschwartz

            it was always alagaesia, but before it was “the empire” it was the broddring kingdom, this refers only to the human nation

    • Kathryn

      Actually, the Empire is PART of Alagaesia. The same way that Surda, Du Weldenvarden, etc. are all part of Alagaesia. It’s kind of like countries on a continent. So yes, even after the fall of the Empire it’s still called Alagaesia. You also have to consider that “Eragon’s Guide to Alagaesia” is written from a post-Empire perspective, and Eragon still calls it Alagaesia.

    • Eschwartz

      the empire is the empire. alagaesia is the name of a continent since time began. so it will still be its name till time stops and the world ends

  • InheritanceRox

    Litsen ppl…. CP said that there are no more dragon riders in “alagaesia” except from eragon, murtagh, galby and greenie. But what if there are more dragon riders outside alagaesia?????

  • Antonella Fi

    It i said that the mountains near Carvahall are a bsig big dragon sleeping, maybe is Bid Duam, who knows…?

    • Reasalex

      Then the dragon would have trees on it’s back. Possible but unlikely

  • WhiteWinterStar

    If Eragon 1 was still alive, he would be as capable as Rhunon.  She is as old as the Dragon Riders.

    • Alliharpel

      That’s what I was thinking. Rhunon is still pretty powerful, too.

  • WhiteWinterStar

    If Eragon 1 was still alive, he would be as capable as Rhunon.  She is as old as the Dragon Riders.

  • Vince24

    wher do you think Bid’ Duam’s body is dead or alive?

  • Anonymous

    I’ve been waiting for the third podcast all day. What’s up? it’s not here yet. Grrrrrr.

  • Mr. Macauley, when will the third podcast be up? I thought it would be here by today..?

  • Malink

    Hey I know this is off topic but what if the rock of kuthian has somthing to do with the dragons banishing of names spell and that’s why no one can remember it exactly

    • Kathryn

      If Kuthian was one of the names that was banished, then it wouldn’t be called the Rock of Kuthian and no one could say Kuthian. It being called the Rock of Kuthian means that it’s a rock belonging or coming from Kuthian. That would be contrary to the spell which stripped all of the Forsworn’s dragons of ANY identifying features (name, color, likes and dislikes, etc.).

  • Malink

    I believe that the spine could possible be Bid’Daum, the books state that dragons grow slower as they get older (though they don’t stop) so it could make sense if you put the time and aging rate into a mathematical formula.

    • Eschwartz

      the exact opposite is true.  saphira grew from an egg the size of a football to a dragon the size of a house in a year. glaedr who is a couple centuries old is only 3 or 4 times her size. Bid’Daum who is maybe 9 times glaedrs age is probably twice as big as glaedr

  • Horserider96

    Paolini said that no new riders or dragons are in the 4th book apart from eragon, murtagh, galbatorix and the green dragon in one of his interviews! So either he was hiding a huge plot with eragon 1 and bid’daum in it or they are both dead!

    • Fasner

      OrIt could be that in the vault of souls is his eldunari not bid’daum himself!

    • Malink

      But Eragon 1 and Bid’Duam aren’t in fact old riders, perhaps Paolini is using and Elven method here. 🙂

      • Malink

        aren’t in fact new rider is what I meant

    • Alliharpel

      Well, Eragon the First and Bid’daum aren’t exactly new, are they.

      • Kathryn

        What CP actually said was that there are no more hidden riders in the series.

      • Arya<3

        they weren’t introduced as riders though.

  • AryaRose

    Well I have to say I think that it’s most likely that we will simply hear about Eragon 1 and Bid’Daum from someone rather than literally meet either one.  Though I could see Bid’Daum’s Eldunari being found at some point and current Eragon and Saphira learning something from him.

  • vadersapp

    BTW, Mike, you guys spelled “Bid’Daum” wrong every time in this article. It’s supposed to be Muad’Dib from Dune backward.

    • Anonymous

      What?

    • jahooty

      Hahahaha i see it!!!! nice observation sir

    • bjon

      MUAD’DIB: “This creature is admired by Fremen for its ability to survive in the open desert”.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muad%27Dib 

  • Apples

    Well, I think Galby has Bid’Duam’s eldunari which is close enough and very powerful to break the dark magic that Galby has put on Shruikan, therefore breaking all the bonds that binded
    them. Shruikan, enraged, will kill Galby.

  • Feisty-fitz

    Where’s the podcast………………..

    • It should be posted on Shur’tugal today!

      (If you’re a subscriber on iTunes or via the RSS feed, it has been available since last night!) *HINT HINT * WINK WINK*

      • Feisty-fitz

        Thanks!

        • SecretCountess

          I listened to it this afternoon (European Time).
          Its great! 
          Can’nt wait till next Friday

  • Jokermack

    “However, it could be possible (though improbable) that Eragon 1 has survived, and if so, would be so ancient that he is physically incapable of much.” you forget that there are still Elves around from before the war who for instance made all of the riders swords and are not old and crippled and incapable, so if the case is Eragon 1 is alive I highly doubt that he is incapable of helping.

    • Malink

      Like Rhunon.

  • Aplussoccerkid

    In my last comment I ment to say that PART of The Spine is Bid’Duam. Or maybe Bid’Duam’s Eldunari is there, and through his Eldunari Bid’Duam killed Galbatorix’s soldiers.

  • Aplussoccerkid

    I think that Bid’Duam’s SPINE is The SPINE. This would explain why Galbatoix’s soldiers went missing, and maybe Bid’Duam could sense something special about Eragon 2 so he didn’t harm him when he was in The Spine.

    • Gregwooten93

      They would be able to tell if the spine was alive. Itd move. And there would be a giant head somewere.

      • Malink

        Not if he was buried, and only his spine is the Spine, magical induced coma maybe, spells to hide his life force.

      • Aplussoccerkid

        I did say sometjing like that in an earlier comment, but I forgot to mention that here. Sorry!

  • Anonymous

    Just to let yall know that episode 3 of the book club is out on itunes. It’s in the podcast section and don’t worry it’s free.

  • I believe Bid’daum and Eragon 1 are alive. They might be sleeping (kind of Coma)Eragon 2 summons Eragon 1 and Bid’daum from their place which could be Vault of Souls. Perhaps, Rock of Kuthian is the name of a compendium in Tenga’s place which holds the true name of all the ancient riders. Eragon 2 finds his former namesake’s true name and shouts it out in the Vault of Souls which wakes Eragon 1 and his dragon who come flying from their hiding to assist Eragon 2. If my theory is true, I can’t wait to watch Eragon 1 coming in the nick of time to blast Galby,hence saving Eragon 2. Then, Galby with the power of his Eldunari tries to destroy Eragon 1 but Eragon 2 stabs him through his heart with BRISINGR like he killed the Shade… Seems too easy… but this is my opinion.

  • Ben98lalonde

    If Tenga is Eragon, who is Angela?

    • Doorkeeper13

      Angela could be one of the grey folk, however, I find it rather more likely that both Tenga and Angela are both of the grey folk who are supposed to have died out. If Tenga is Eragon I don’t know what Angela would hope to learn from Tenga/Eragon as she would have been around far longer than him.

      • troll

        Tenga could not be one of the grey folk because the grey folk arent supposed to be able to use  magic but angela could be

  • Ben98lalonde

    Bid’Duams eldunari is in the vault of souls; Galby almost found the true name of magic, eragon 1 is dead.

  • Guest

    Wouldn’t it be just crazy if Galby had Bid’Duam’s eldunari?? And the Eragon’s team up to save him, resulting with Eragon 2 hanging in manacles in a dungeon…

    • Arya<3

       Who’s dungeon. It can’t be Galbatorixes.

      • Kathryn

        Why not?

        • Arya<3

           Because Christopher P. specifically said it wasn’t Galbatorixes dungeon that he was imprisoned in.

  • Vrangahjarta

    Vroengard=Bid’Daum

    • Matt

      Yep

  • Haleycool101/SpiritTamer

    At first, I thought the idea of Bid’duam ‘s spine being the actual Spine was stupid. But now that I think about, that’s not a half-bad idea. And on page 9. of Eragon, it said that half of Galby’s army went missing there. But I do think Eragon 1 is dead, and  when the Raz’ac said “He has almost found the name,” he meant the true name of Bid’duam and/or Eragon 1, so they/he can serve him. Or, maybe, Bid’duam’s Elundari is one of the gemstones of one of the swords. Sorry, once I start I can’t stop 🙂

    • Guest!

      good idea
      mabye the spine is just bid’daums spine and the rest of his body is the left half of alagaesia because from what i know most of the history before takes place in only the desert, the beor mountains and du weldenwarden
      so mabye galby wants to control bid’daum and break half of alagaesia and burn the other half where his enemies are???

  • Darkstar

    Tenga = agnet 

    Agnet = agent? 

  • Anonymous

    What if… the name Galbatorix is looking for is the true name of Bid’Daum since Galbatorix cannot break into his Eldunari

    • Jefftj91

      It would be cool, but I doubt it. From what I read in when Eragon discovered Sloan’s true name, it seems that you have to have attain a profound understanding of a person and who they are at the core of their being to be able to gain access to that information. If he can’t break through his mind there is also little likelihood of communication or knowledge of the person Bid’Daum is. 

    • Ben98lalonde

      Galby almost found the true name of mqgic; he would be able to controll qll its users

  • handytimelord

    I think that the Spine is Bid’Duam, mainly because something so ancient and so large wouldn’t have the energy to move. When Eragon speaks his name to open the Vault of Souls (probably a cave in the Spine, or Bid’Daum’s face/mouth), the ancient dragon (who probably lost his rider long ago) believes it is his old bond and regurgitates his Eldunari, so they may speak. 

    I love this theory, mainly because it is the most far-fetched, while still being with in the realm of possibility. Does it go against anything in the series? No. Is it crazy? Yes. 😀

    • Haleycool101/SpiritTamer

      I think everyone’s forgetting that dragons die when there Rider die

      • Montaru10

        they usualy do, but not always.

      • Mrthree31

        Eragon 1 and Bid’Duam did not have the blood oath to bind them like all the other riders did either

      • Arvindr

        incorrect just reread book 3  Gleadr?? does ring a bell ??

      • Lil Uhura

        If that were true then Brom would have died a long time ago.  You’re confusing the horrible movie with the book. 

      • Majialei

        DRAGONS die when their riders die, remember Brom told Eragon that in Book 1.  The only exception to this rule would be dragons who live on in their eldunari.  The body of the dragon does die, but his spirit is preserved in the crystal.  But RIDERS do not necessarily die if their dragon dies, however the loss is so tragic that many people, not all, go mad ex: Brom or Galbatorix

        • Eschwartz

          no, No, NO  the loss of your soul mate and Bonded, who is half your soul, drives you crazy and you usually commit suicide. brom lived and glaedr lived. it doesnt matter whether its the rider or the dragon who survives.

    • Mrthree31

      Eragon 1 and Bid’Duam did not have the blood oath to bind them like all the other riders did either.

  • E.

    I really hope that the two people who leave Alagaesia forever are Eragon 1,Murtagh, & there dragons, so Eragon 2 & Arya can stay.

    • Ramnor

      at the first book angela said that eragon will leave from this country for ever.
      But if she ment that he will live with the elves?

      • Aplussoccerkid

        Good theory. I love the thought of Eragon 2 living with the elves…possibly Arya??? 

        • Jefftj91

          Did you ever wonder if the effect of the bond with the dragons extended that far to the rest of their race, if they do still exist?

      • so what? Ellesméra, home of all the elves, is located in Alagaesia. It’s not a different continent. Did you mean it, right? Or you meant that the elves are gonna leave with Eragon so he can stick with them far away from Alagaesia? 

        • Bou0008

          It’s been mentioned before that the elves didnt come from alagaesia, their ancestors came on ships from some other far away continent. So its poosible eragon goes there. I think this is what Ramor meant. Read the book

          • I read the book. I understand now, it’s just that our friend didn’t make himself clear enough. At first I thought he was saying that the elves that actually live in Alagaesia would  leave with Eragon to another continent. Anyway, sorry. 

    • Arvindr

      there are no more surviving riders!! 

    • Arvindr

      there are no more surviving riders!! 

  • sjoegraas

    What if Eragon the first turns out to be alive, and after the end of the war with Galbatorix, HE would be the one leaving Alagaesia forever? I mean, Angela’s prediction would come true … Eragon would in fact leave forever. Just not the Eragon we thought. 
    I don’t think that this will happen, with that dream and all, but it would be funny if it did happen.

  • sjoegraas

    What if Eragon the first turns out to be alive, and after the end of the war with Galbatorix, HE would be the one leaving Alagaesia forever? I mean, Angela’s prediction would come true … Eragon would in fact leave forever. Just not the Eragon we thought. 
    I don’t think that this will happen, with that dream and all, but it would be funny if it did happen.

    • I also like the idea, but I think it’s not gonna happen. I was wondering what would force Eragon to leave that continent for never coming back, and I got a theory. 
      I guess that in the end, after Galby finally get overthrown, Saphira (and probably the green dragon with its rider) will reckon that it’s better leave Alagaesia and rebuild the dragon’s race in another place. I mean, they have already brought too much sorrow and suffer to Alagaesia. I guess that it’s in fact, what will force Eragon to leave. (so, concluding, as I mentioned in previous posts, I think that Eragon 1 is dead). 

      • Lil Uhura

        Anyone remember the Menoa tree & how pissed she was @ the two of them?  I’ll bet anything that the reason why they have to leave Alagaesia has something to do with that twinge of stomach pain Eragon felt.  I think that somehow she has planted a seed in him & to prevent it from growing he will have to leave her sphere of influence. But I don’t have any facts to back me up, so maybe I’m wrong.

        • Arya<3

          or she just took his spleen.

        • troll

          mabye humans have eldunari’s too and she took his????

  • Sesshy

    I have to say I havent given much thought to this topic, but I dont think the vault of souls is going to be anything that people exspect.

    • troll

      yeah lots of people think its where all eldunari are stored
      but i think its where peoples souls go when then die
      so that way eragon can enter the vault of souls and learn from brom, oromis and the original eragon and learn how to defeat galby

  • Kathryn

    I think that Bid’Daum’s eldunari being located somewhere in Alagaesia is a plausible theory (my personal favorite location is the Vault of Souls). I just think the whole idea of the first Eragon still being alive and suddenly appearing to help the contemporary Eragon is not a possibility. CP is nothing if not intelligent in his construction of the plot, and this particular plot twist has already been done in the Cycle. Oromis, anyone? Why would CP do a repeat? I think it’s more likely that we will see Bid’Daum’s eldunari and it will show a memory or give information about the original Eragon.

    • Doorkeeper13

      I agree that if Bid’Daum’s eldunari is still around it is in the Vault of Souls, though I think it more likely that if Bid’Daum is an eldunari then Eragon 1 is still alive. Now before you go all “CP said no more hidden riders”, hear me out. If Bid’Duam no longer has a physical body then Eragon 1 isn’t a dragon rider any longer. Tenga would be some word that starts with an “I”….Indhvaren (sorry I murdered the spelling).

      Tenga could be Eragon 1 (though I really think Tenga is one of the grey folk). Anyway think about it. Bid’Duam’s eldunari is in the VoS and neither of them can communicate with each other. Tenga is obsessed with answering questions. Could this simply be a way he tries to stay sane until he can find a way to open the VoS? Imagine knowing where your dragon is (in the VoS) yet being unable to contact your dragon who is basically half of your consciousness. Would that not drive one to unceasingly search for a way to regain the mental contact?

      I think Tenga is searching for a way to get into the VoS so that he and Bid’Duam’s mental link can be reunited. From what little we know of Tenga it doesn’t appear that he cares at all about the fate of Alagaeisia’s fate…..only the question he is attempting to answer. Also he is extremely old, like Rhunon. If he is an elf it would be easy enough for him to change his features to a more human form. Despite the arguments against this, I still think this is a plausible theory. 

      • Kathryn

        But none of that explains why CP would do a repeat of the same plot twist. “Oh, look! We’re not alone. We have a hidden mentor in Oromis. Awww, he died. “Wait, Eragon! We just happen to have another hidden mentor for you.”

        • Doorkeeper13

          With this theory I don’t think Eragon 1/Tenga would teach Eragon and Saphira. This is because he is quite mad and couldn’t care less about Alagaesia from what little we know of him. The only thing Tenga (whether or not he’s Eragon 1)cares about is answering the questions he poses for himself and as my theory states, reuniting his mental link to Bid’Duam (if he is Eragon 1). And how would it be a repeat theory? Yes, Tenga may have information for Eragon but he wouldn’t teach Eragon for the following reasons:

          1. Tenga doesn’t care what happens.
          2. Eragon has already been taught what he needs to know mostly.
          3. CP doesn’t have time to give Eragon a new teacher in this book.
          4 As you so aptly stated, it makes no sense.

          So what is Tenga’s/Eragon 1’s role in this book? I see it as this,:

          1.Eragon returns to Tenga and asks for information about the “Rock of Kuthian’/Vault of Souls”.
          2.This triggers Tenga’s knowledge and memory b/c it IS the question he’s trying to answer. (We find out who Tenga is at this point)
          3. Tenga gives Eragon his knowledge about the “VoS/RoK”
          4. Eragon helps Tenga “reunite” with Bid’Duam’s eldunari/essense/whatever in the VoS (which is what Tenga has been trying to do for a very long time and also what has driven him insane in the first place; his loss of communication with Bid’Duam).
          5. Eragon gets more info from the both of them.
          6. Your guess is as good as mine as to what happens after that or what they would discuss; however, I think it’s safe to say that neither Eragon1/Tenga or Bid’Duam will be doing the actual defeating of Galbatorix.  

          • Kathryn

            But your #5 would make him another mentor/teacher for Eragon and Saphira, which is exactly the reason why I don’t think we will physically see the original Eragon in the books. If he were to appear, it could only be for the purpose of imparting information to the contemporary Eragon. Not only do we already have scores of characters that can and do fill that role, we have already had that twist in the series with Oromis.

            Nope, I cannot go with this theory. It’s more likely that Eragon will learn ABOUT the original Eragon rather than FROM him.

          • Doorkeeper13

            Well then, yes, if you define teacher as anyone who gives information of any kind to you as a teacher, then Eragon 1 would indeed be such a one; however, I see him more as a crochety obsessed old elf who will be exceedingly more intent on Bid’Duam than giving Eragon any type of info. Hahaha in fact I would go so far as to say that Tenga would only help Eragon if he saw something in it for himself. I wouldn’t exactly call that a teacher 😛

            Anyway as this is simply a theory I have, I’m not too keen on it playing out as such, so more than likely you are right. We will only hear about Eragon 1 and Bid’Duam, but I still think this is a plausible theory and I certainly wouldn’t consider Tenga/Eragon1 to be a teacher simply b/c he hands out some info on how to destroy Galbatorix or some useful spell.

            Whatever CP does with Eragon 1 and Bid’Duam it better be awesome.

  • The Clockwork Angel

    I think that Eragon I is in the Vault of Souls and Bid’Duam’s Eldunari is with Galbatorix. Christopher Paolini stated earlier in 2011 that there are no hidden, living Riders. 

  • When will be launched the film – continuation of Eragon? Please, they make the continuation of the Film, is pretty!

    • BigFan

      sorry, they are not making a movie about Eldest, because the first movie was so bad! it was so different from the book that almost everybody hated it, so they are not going to make another movie 🙁

      • Ramnor

        man you ‘re so right

      • Arya<3

        yeah especially cause arya already left for ellesmera in the movie and Eragon didn’t get a back injury.

      • troll

        go on youtube and watch the extended edition parts its got
        elva’s blessing
        murtagh looking at zar’oc
        the twins
        and katrina
        so it wasnt that bad but it still sucked

    • handytimelord

      Not only was it pretty awful, they made NO money from it. If it was just that it was awful, I’m sure there’d have been another. Look at Percy Jackson.

    • handytimelord

      Not only was it pretty awful, they made NO money from it. If it was just that it was awful, I’m sure there’d have been another. Look at Percy Jackson.

    • handytimelord

      Not only was it pretty awful, they made NO money from it. If it was just that it was awful, I’m sure there’d have been another. Look at Percy Jackson.

  • A fool

    I think that one or theboth of them are guarding the Vault of Souls (from the outside) but in some obscure location so they have absolutly no idea what is going on in their homeland which is why they haven’t gone to help.

    • Kathryn

      I’m not sure this makes sense. If they Vault of Souls is in such an obscure location that its presumed guards are completely unaware of the goings on in the world, then how would the contemporary Eragon get there, open it and get back in a timely manner?

    • Ramnor

      if they were guardiands of the vault they would had been seen.It’s impossible not to see a giagantic ancient dragon in the size of amounten

      • Lalala

        Maybe they’re actually guarding it, but in some spectral form, and as such Bid’Daum could look smaller

  • Arya<3

    This is random but wouldn’t it be cool if Eragon married Arya and then he would be the king of the Elves (because Islanzadi might die) and they decide to move to Alalea so that’s why he leaves. 

    • Wander

      I actually do think that Islanzadi will die in the next book and that Arya will have the choice of becoming the next queen, but I can’t quite see the elves accepting Eragon as their king; haven’t they always been kinda skeptic about him? And if he DID become king, why would he move? He would need to stay in Alagaesia to rule! But it’s an intriguing point you bring up: what WOULD he and Arya do if they got married?   

      • Richard Rahl

        Islandzadi will 100% die because CP said this whole book series was about the younger generation taking on responsibility of the older… considering this Arya has yet to take any responsibilities and therefore must.

      • Lalala

        Actually, they started trusting Eragon more after the events of the Agetí Blödhren, since he was more elf-like, even in his attitude, but Eragon already said many times he does not look to be king, or command a nation whatsoever

  • Jeriah

    Haha, I remember before the whole Eldunari thing was explained, I thought the Vault of Souls would be a place where Eragon would meet Brom and Garrow and Selena and whoever else died and get wisdom and strength from them…lol, Harry Potter Ressurection Stone, anyone? It would still be nice if Eragon could see them again, though, but now it seems unlikely.

    • Saranishysweet16

      Paolini said that Brom would make a reappearance but not in the way you expect.

      • Montaru10

        i think that was about the third book, and talking about saphira’s memory.

  • Julie

    Believe that it it most likely that only Bid’Duams Eldunari lives on. It may be hidden in The Vault of Souls, but it’s likely that Galbatorix has already found that. And, if Bid’Duams Eldunari was there, it would have so much power that Galbatorix more than likely could have already taken over Alagasia. SO, I believe that Bid’Duams Eldunari has been hidden in a place other than the Vault of Souls, and Eragon 1 (possibly being Tenga) will tell Eragon 2 where Bid’Duams Eldunari is. If both Eragon 1 and Bid’Duam are still alive, and since Bid’Duam would be the size of a continent, maybe they left Alagasia, which could be why Eragon 2 leaves his home for good: he finds the first Dragon and Rider, and find a way to kill/stop Galbatorix. And who knows, there could be lots more dragons where Eragon 1 and Bid’Duam have left to.

    And somewhere in my heart, I really hope that Arya gets the last egg in Galbatorixs possesion.

    • Saranishysweet16

       I used to hope that Arya would get the last egg but then I realized that I wanted her to look up to Eragon as a Rider and now they are kind of even in their powers.

    • Saranishysweet16

       I used to hope that Arya would get the last egg but then I realized that I wanted her to look up to Eragon as a Rider and now they are kind of even in their powers.

    • Nicole

      CP “no commented” on the suggestion that there might be dragons that are hidden in the spine disguising themselves as natural landmarks, perhaps Bid’Duam is a mountain? he is white

  • is it possible that the new eragon is the old eragon and the vault of souls or rock of kuathan is a place where he hid knowledge or he anpossibly the elves stored energy in jewels like the ones on his belt? also possibly when eragon speaks his true name and he was the first eragon it would unlock his memories? and wouldn’t he be the most powerful rider anyways as a gift from dragons and elves for stoping there bloody war? im thinking too deeply into this but its a possibility.

  • your mother

    Here is something to think about… Eragon 1 and Bid’Duam were never technically bonded with the silver hand and dragon riders always have the silver hand, they were before the dragon riders!

    • Kathryn

      We don’t know that.

  • InheritanceRox

    Here is something to think about… CP said that there are no more dragon riders (shrutugal’s) besides galby, murtagh, eragon and the greenie. But what if Eragon 1 is still alive and Bid’Daum still lives as an eldunari then the pair would be known as a Indlvarn. So they might still make a physical appearence!!!!!!!!!!

  • Loic Jordan

    1) Eragon 1 is alive, and in the Vault of Souls.
    2) Bid’Duam is alive, and in the Vault of Souls?
    3)Bid’Duam is alive, and either he’s still got his Eldunari in him, or Eragon 1 is taking care of it.
    4) Eragon 1 and Bid’Duam will give a lot of information and help the Varden, particularly Eragon and Saphira, and Bid’Duam will give them his Eldunari so they are more powerful.
    5)Maybe a little bit, but I don’t think so.
    6)Yes, I think they’re kind the guardians of the Vault of Souls, and they’re trapped in it, that’s why they still haven’t come to help, they can’t get out.
    7)I don’t have any.

  • Gregwooten93

    I think that Bid’Daum is still in an eldunari and that is whats in the Vault of Souls. It makes sense that Eragon would get this advice from the most Wisest dragon still around.

  • Anonymous

    Why would Bid’Daum want to give up his eldunari. It seems like a sad and lonely life, especially once the rider has died. I think the only reason that Glaeder did it was because he knew he had to train eragon and they were the last riders. Bid’Daum was not in that situation, by the time he died (assuming he did) there were many dragons and riders to continue the teachings. I cannot see why Bid’Daum would do this. I think that eragon learns more about eragon 1 from a book or a person that shows up that happens to know about it.

  • skulk3

    What if Bid’Daum’s Eldunari is the thing that Galbatorix has been working so hard at breaking all this time while in his palace? Remember the Razaac said he was getting close to the solution, or something like that (too lazy to get the book out). Or, going on a tangent, what if Galbatorix is trying to break the eldunari of the original dragon leader (the un-namable one who sealed the pact, healed our Eragon’s back, etc)? Either way I think that Bid’Daum’s Eldunari will play some role. He’s probably dead though.

    • Saranishysweet16

       Ther Ra’zac said that Galbatorix was close to finding the ‘name’ of something. Probably the name of the ancient language.

    • Saranishysweet16

       Ther Ra’zac said that Galbatorix was close to finding the ‘name’ of something. Probably the name of the ancient language.

  • Medwyn

    Interesting, Jarnunvosk…
    I think that Bid’Duam’s Eldunari living on is the most likely. I don’t remember how big the Eldunari were, but could it, if it was small enough, be a gemstone in the hilt of a sword?  Or maybe a gem like the Star Sapphire? I agree we won’t see the actual Eragon/Bid’Duam, but they could make an appearance in a memory or some kind of flashback, right, or some sort of misty illusion.

    • Anonymous

      perhaps the vault of souls contains memories that will give Eragon 2 info to defeat Galby. But in order to open the vault Eragon must know his true name. We most likely wont get to know it but I think that Bid’Dam will tell him what it is, in an Eldunari. somewhere in Book 4 

      • Simon Richert

        Maybe my memory is seriously wrong right now, since it’s been quite some time since i read it, but wasn’t there an Eragon in between the first (with Bid’Daum) and the present Eragon? If so, wouldn’t the present Eragon be Eragon 3?

        • Jeriah

          Actually, the hero of our story would be Eragon 5, I believe.

          Another note why Isidar Mithrim couldn’t be Bid’duam’s eldunari: Bid’duam was white, and the star sapphire is pinkish red.

          • Saranishysweet16

            Once you shatter the Eldunari you cannot replace it because it is dead. Also whenever Saphira and Eragon would land on the Isidar Mithrin in book 1, they never felt a  concious which should have been felt at contact. Also the dwarves know that the giant gem was built by hand long before the riders.

          • Saranishysweet16

            Once you shatter the Eldunari you cannot replace it because it is dead. Also whenever Saphira and Eragon would land on the Isidar Mithrin in book 1, they never felt a  concious which should have been felt at contact. Also the dwarves know that the giant gem was built by hand long before the riders.

    • Soccer-boyy

      the star sapphire was destroyed so it wouldn’t be Bid’Duam’s Eldunari. Not to mention it was made by a dwarf.

  • Jarnunvosk

    Maybe, just maybe, if Tenga is the first Eragon then the Spine is Bid’Duam. 

  • Fred6789

    In one of the interviews cp says that eragon is in a prison but
    Not galby’s , but did cp specify which eragon? Is it possible that
    Eragon one is in the prison??

    • rawrluv

      This was in a pre-released chapter, and it was definitely Sapira’s Eragon. 

  • No one

    why am I so awesome??????

  • has anyone thought that the vos might be in uru’baen

    • hidden somwhere

    • the problem is that if it is in Uru’baen then Galby surely has already found it and protected it somehow. But this possibility can make sense, remember what Solembum said “…when all seems lost and your power is insufficient…” think about this line. When could it happen? It will happen during the combat between the Varden and the Empire (and it’s probably gonna happen in Uru’baen). Thinking this way, we can speculate that Eragon will need help while fighting against Galby. In the combat he wouldn’t be able to travel a long way because it could make the Varden lose the battle. So, the Rock of Kuthian may be somewhere hidden around Uru’baen. 

      We need to remember that Uru’baen is not so far away from the Hadarac Desert (many people believe that the Rock of Kuthian is hidden somewhere in the mountains of the desert). 

  • Kiera of Gendium

    I beleive christopher actually touched on this in an interview if his on shurtugal. He said there were nonmore surprise dragon riders, other than the three, possibly four in inheritance. So therefore, I support the theory, because CP said dragon RIDERS, and we all know Christopher says one thing but often means another, a lit like the elves. This is quite possible.

  • Matt

    For those saying that Eragon 1 must be dead because if he was not he would have done something about Galbatorix, maybe Eragon 1/Bid’Daum got the same deal that Eragon/Saphira will where they have to leave forever.

  • The Grey Rider

    I’ve actually touched on this plot point in a fanfiction of mine, The Tale of the Grey Rider.
    It’s a crossover with about five or six other stories, so it holds no canon value, but it’s still an interesting theory: Also, I believe it’s highly possible for Bid’Daum and Eragon 1 to still be alive.

    I’m going to cite Rhunon as evidence.
    Recall that she forged ALL the rider’s swords, and is old enough to remember times before the Riders were created.
    If she’s that old without having a dragon partner, then I reckon there’s an excellent chance that Eragon 1 and Bid’Daum are still alive.
    Also recall that it’s stated in Brisingr that Rhunon was still a formidable sword fighter, even though she was out of practice.
    Factor in that she must be nearly as old as Eragon 1,-if he’s still alive,- if not older, and suddenly Eragon 1 being able to fight Galby directly looks very plausible.
    As for where they’re hiding…
    I reckon it’s a bit far-fetched saying Bid’Daum would be the size of a continent by this stage, I reckon a dragon’s growth, while it would continue, would slow drastically at that sort of age.
    My money is they’re hiding beneath Vroengard, and that any caverns, etc. that exist under said volcanic island is the location of the Vault of Souls.

    There.
    That’s the canonised summary of how Eragon 1 survived the Fall.
    If only writing my non-canon crossover one was as easy…

    • Kathryn

      CP has said that there are no more hidden riders in the series.

      • InheritanceRox

        But what if Eragon 1 is still alive and Bid’Daum still lives as an eldunari then the pair would be known as a Indlvarn. CP said there would be no more SHURTUGAL’s…

      • Nicole

        I don’t remember correctly but could dragons live on without their riders? If so he said riders not dragons. Its possible Bid’daum is alive and Eragon 1 is not,

      • The Grey Rider

        Maybe so, but that’s so spoilerific…
        I reckon that there’s a chance he wasn’t being 100% straight there.
        He could’ve lied outright to cover it, or he could’ve told part of the truth to hide the whole, it’d fit that the author of the story would use a point from the language he created for his work.
        I remember him saying “There are no more Riders hiding in forests,” or something along those lines.
        HE DIDN’T CATEGORICALLY RULE IT OUT!
        Holy heck… I just realised that then…

  • Naegling

    I believe, and this is coroborated by the statement that Bid’Daum would be the size of a continent, that the Spine is actually BD’s spine, overgrown with trees. Eragon I is hiding in there, and he’s the reason half of Galby’s army disappeared (think about it; barely trained troops against the first Rider…). Eragon’s alive,BD isn’t. BD’s Eldunari is either with Eragon or in the Vault of Souls. Or, Galby has it, but he can’t conquer it, so he’s searching for BD’s true name (the Name that the Ra’Zac referred to)

    • Kathryn

      Not likely. If you look at a map of Alagaesia, the Spine mountain range stretches almost the length north to south of the country and extends past the northern boundaries. It’s also crossed by the Tourc (sp?) River at Teirm.

  • I think Eragon 1 might be dead but Bid’Daum might still be alive as the Spine. That would also explain how half of Galby’s army disappeared in the Spine.

    • Lil Uhura

      Does anyone remember that Urgals still live in the Spine?  They are a much more logical reason as to why all of those troops died than “an ancient, slumbering giant dragon did it.”

  • Matt

    On the subject of Eragon 1 being Tenga, Eragon did mention seeing “hills” around his home.

  • 1) If he is, he’s doing a pretty good job of hiding himself. But I don’t think so.
    2) Maybe Bid’Daum IS the Spine?
    3) Yeah, the Eldunari MUST still exist. It would give one side a gigantic advantage over the other.
    4) I’ll answer that below….
    5) NAO. Tenga = Eragon 1 is just wrong. I might as well be saying that Angela = Eragon 1. (xD xD what a nice thought?)
    6) Yuppo. I’ll also answer question 4 in this: I think that there’s a “plot hole” in the history of Alagaesia. It not only concerns the deaths of Eragon and Bid’Daum, but also gives Eragon the key information to find the Vault of Souls. I’m imagining it a bit like this: they were close to death, I don’t know when, could have been anytime. So they stashed away some sort of power in this Vault so that if they couldn’t keep the peace, someone else would come and use it to keep everything under control. They could even have hidden themselves in there to rest and wait, always waiting, for someone to come to this Rock of Kuthian and use his true name to let them out and help to defeat Galby (seeing as both Eragons have the same true name, or just the same normal name). But that’s somehow been forgotten.

    • Maldrin

      Hm… I’m still of the opinion that the original Eragon died years ago, though I think it’s interesting that you’d mention he and Eragon (our eragon, the one the books are about) having the same name… I think the only way that could happen, though, is for the original Eragon to have literally reincarnated into the new one. But I’m pretty sure that’s impossible: people returning from the dead has only been mentioned a few times in the books, and always in the context of “yeah, not gunna happen”.    

      • rawrluv

        However, reincarnation is not the same person being reanimated. Your memories aren’t there, it’s just your soul inhabiting another form. There’s actually the possibility (given through reincarnation) that everyone on the planet is the same soul reincarnated many times. Oh, did I mention that reincarnation is not necessarily life/death exclusive? You can be reincarnated while still alive.

  • Steve

    If Bid’Daum’s spine was Alagaesia’s spine surely the elves would have sensed that? I believe they are dead, but what about Eragon 1 and Bid’Daum simply flying away to the elves homeland and staying there? Alagaesia is just one part of that world.

    • no one

      they will all die

  • Maldrin

    Don’t you think revealing that Oromis was alive was a big enough suprise for the series? Frankly, I highly doubt that the first Eragon is alive; I mean, it’d be like “Hey! This is Oromis. What’s that? He died already in a battle? Oh, well, lookie here: we had the first rider ever locked up over here in his room all along!” I do like the idea of Bid’Daum’s eldunari still being in existance, though. I mean, why wouldn’t it be? He probably lived long enough for the riders after Eragon Number 1 to realize how important these heart of hearts were. He may have even helped build the Vault of Souls!

  • Ramnor

    what if Bid’Duam’s Eldunari is in the vault of souls with more eldunaris?

    • Haleycool101/SpiritTamer

      I think that’s more likely and more reasonable.

  • Anonymous

    the Tenga=Eragon 1 theory is kinda interesting although i still think that Tenga is most likely one of the Grey Folk. I think what will most likely happen is that Eragon 2 will find Bid’Duam’s Eldunari and will gain the combined knowledge and power of Eragon 1 and Bid’Duam

  • Bookkitty3

    What if Bid’Daum weren’t the size of a continent? What if he were only as big as a mountain range? Say, the Spine?

    • Perseus

      A dragon would have to be at least 4,000 years old to be the size of an entire continent or a mountain range, I think.  As for Eragon I being alive, I think that CP explicitly stated in a Q&A that there are no more people who are Riders (as of the end of Brisingr) in the entire world other than Murtagh, Eragon, and Galbatorix.  Bid’Daum is probably an Eldunarí and Eragon I is within the VoS.

      • Anonymous

        Actually, I’m pretty sure that CP said that there weren’t anymore Dragon Riders that we didn’t know about. Since we know about Eragon the First, he still could be in there

        • Kathryn

          Actually, what CP said was that there are no more hidden riders.

          • InheritanceRox

            But what if Eragon 1 is still alive and Bid’Daum still lives as an eldunari then the pair would be known as a Indlvarn. CP said there would be no more SHURTUGAL’s…

          • InheritanceRox

            But what if Eragon 1 is still alive and Bid’Daum still lives as an eldunari then the pair would be known as a Indlvarn. CP said there would be no more SHURTUGAL’s…

          • InheritanceRox

            But what if Eragon 1 is still alive and Bid’Daum still lives as an eldunari then the pair would be known as a Indlvarn. CP said there would be no more SHURTUGAL’s…

          • InheritanceRox

            But what if Eragon 1 is still alive and Bid’Daum still lives as an eldunari then the pair would be known as a Indlvarn. CP said there would be no more SHURTUGAL’s…

      • Esmeraldi

        If Bid’Daum was important, then he would be a well protected Eldunari so he’s probably in Galby’s possession. 

  • Saranishysweet16

    I don’t believe that Tenga is Eragon 1 because
    1) he was supposedly human, and wouldn’t the rider have more elven features since he is an elf?
    2) Angela was supposed to be just a joke character so her mentor (Tenga) shouldn’t have any HUGE importance in the plot line. It was mostly just a fun mystery.

    • Bjbill

      But remember that Tenga was added as a character in Brisingr where CP had already decided to give Angela more importance. So Tenga may be the “key” that lead Angela to change from a joke character into a main hero of IC by being her mentor. I don’t support the Eragon 1 – Tenga theory (I prefer the one with Grey Folks) but I believe that Tenga will have a big impact in Inheritence plot.

      • Well, Tenga surely have a bond with Angela. However, I don’t think that he’s the “key” that will make Angela transform into a hero or something. I mean, in Brisingr Angela has taken a curious role. She already seems to be important and powerful, wise, and all. And I believe that it is nothing about her being Tenga’s student (or something like that). 
        I agree when you say that he is one of the Grey Folk. Angela might be as well. And there’s the connection they two have. But just saying, I think that Angela is even more important than Tenga. I believe that she will be the one that plays an important role, not Tenga. I mean, Tenga will have an appearance at some point, but not so important, I guess. 

  • Anonymous

    I agree Eragon 1 is dead. Bid’Duam’s Eldunari is within the Vault of Souls, and more likely the protector. The vault of souls has to be in the spine. It will provide an opportunity for Eragon to view the wreckage of Carvahall.

  • no one

    Maybe Eragon1 is the guardian of the VoS and it is he who locks Eragon2 up in shackles in a dungeon–to protect the eldunarí. And also if the VoS is located in the spine, then maybe when that large army dissapeared it was eragon1 trying to protect the eldunarí. Just a theory 🙂

    • Anonymous

      No, I dont’ think so. You have to keep in mind that Eragon the First along with Bid’Duam brought peace between the elves and the dragons. Why would he then try and hinder someone who is doing something very similar in trying to defeat Galbatorix

    • Esmeraldi

      i doubt the VOs has a dungeon…

    • Ramnor

      soleboum said to say his name so i dought if the vault of souls has a guardian.also i believe that if it had a guardian it would be known by the elves

  • DruidicAnonymous

    The Vault of Souls is probably like the Animus in Assassin’s Creed, and Eragon2 will gain a weapon in the form of knowledge contained in the memories of Eragon1.

  • Emeric

    The Beor montains is the skeleton of Bud’duam! 😮 No, just kidding.

    Well, I believe the Spine is the back of Bid’duam, and Eragon’s soul/mind is in the Vault of Souls. Believe me, much?

    • Saranishysweet16

      do you mean alaegasia is just  a dragon?

      • Ramnor

        maybe it is who knows after all

      • Emeric

        No. No I think not. Alagaësia existed before the Dragon War. But the part where the Spine is, just that part, is the back of Bid’duam.

        • Saranishysweet16

          yeah and the Burning Plains could be the snout.

          • Lil Uhura

            Nope.  The BP are just fields of underground peat that had been accidentally set on fire during a fight w/the Forsworn.

    • No One

      maybe the spine is the actual spine of Bid’Duam—-but i think its unlikely that eragons soul/mind is in the vault….

    • Ramnor

      it’s not a crazy theory.

  • vadersapp

    Maybe the information they get about Eragon I and Bid’daum is from Rhunon. Remember she has been the creator of every rider sword since the beginning. That means she has to have been alive since the creation of the riders. She may have known Eragon I personally. Maybe she has information that seems inconsequential to anyone except Eragon. And it may lead to some realization, or the location of the VoS, etc.

    • Perseus

      I bet she did know Eragon I personally.  She had a personal request from the elf queen Tarmunora to forge the first Riders’ swords.

  • DuSkulblakaEbrithil

    I think the most probable theory is that the original Eragon and Bid’Daum are both dead, but Bid’Daum’s eldunari still exists somewhere. It would be very unfortunate if Galbatorix is in possession of Bid’Daum’s eldunari. That would make the story quite bleak since his eldunari would presumably be very powerful and knowledgeable. Hopefully the elves have it hidden somewhere or it’s in the vault of souls or in the spine or somewhere where Eragon and Saphira can find it. Then they would have two very powerful and knowledgeable eldunari to continue their training and help them defeat Galbatorix. Plus, I’m sure both dragons would be more than willing to help Eragon in his quest to take down Galbatorix, as opposed to the eldunari Galbatorix has enslaved. Has anyone considered if an eldunari is more powerful if it isn’t held against its will? Just a random thought I just came up with. Also, can eldunari converse with one another or join powers somehow? If so, maybe those in Galbatorix’s possession could work together to break his hold on them. Also, since eldunari are so powerful why do they let Galbatorix control them? Without them, Galbatorix could be easily defeated by their combined power. Sorry this post is just a mish mash of comments. I’m new to this site and haven’t commented often, yet.

    • It says in Brisingr that Galby basically breaks into the minds of the Eldurnai dragons, much the same way that Eragon can break into the mind of soldiers in battle. Once he’s ‘inside,’ he can take control and use the power as he wishes

      • DuSkulblakaEbrithil

        Thanks to both of you who commented! I’ve re-read the books a few times each, but am working on re-reading them again and just got to Brisingr. I guess I should have kept reading! Oh well, now I know! 😀

    • Saranishysweet16

      It says that Galbatorix tortures the eldunari and unfortuantely they can’t do anything because they are not real bodies.

  • Lurker…

    What if Bid’Duam’s Eldunari wasn’t in the Vault of Souls, but instead was the Rock of Kuthian. Okay just hear me out for a second and let me explain my theory. Solembum’s advice says that to open the Vault of Souls he must speak his name to Rock of Kuthian. If the Rock of Kuthian were Bid’Duam’s Eldunari I would assume that he had been lying in a somewhat dormant state for years, pining over the loss of his Rider. After hearing the name of his Rider maybe his mind would awaken and would touch Eragon’s. The mind and soul of a dragon that old and wise must seem huge in comparison to that of human, or even elf, and thus seem like a ‘vault’. Here Eragon could find all the knowledge and power of a centuries old dragon, aiding him in defeating Galbatorix. Thoughts?

    • Eldest

      Mine exactly

    • Rami Abdallah Rashmawi

      Interesting theory. I kinda like it! but the thing about the vault would have to be a little different. and where did the name kuthian come from if it was Bid’Duam’s Eldunari?

      • Lurker…

        About the name, my thoughts are  either a). that as an ancient dragon Bid’Duam could very likely have many names/titles and Kuthian is just another one of those, perhaps in a different language, or b). that Kuthian is the name of the location where the Eldunari is found.

      • Saranishysweet16

        Or it could have something to do with the forsworn…. like the banishing of names.

    • plus it seems that whenever and whoever Eragon asks about the Rock, no one can seem to remember what/where it is. It seems likely that some kind of spell is placed on it to make people forget it?

    • Trumanwest

      i think you might be on to somthing

    • Ramnor

      it could be true brom said once that dragons never stop growing although a giant rock glowing like abig diamond might draw too much attention but no one can know what happen all the years since Bid’Duam passed away.

  • Faron

    Wouldn’t it be weird if Eragon 1 and  Bid’Duam created and locked themselves in the Vault of Souls?  And you could only open the Vault if you were a true hero who needed help restoring the peace to Alagaesia? Just a thought from my wandering mind…

  • Robbybarr1994

    i dont think eragon 1 is still alive how ever i think that Bid’Duam’s eldunari is still some where where the wild dragons used to go to mate raise young and die its just hidden really well

    • Hnafpaktitis

      there is no place where dragons where the wild dragons used to die…

      • there are the mountains out in the desert – Saphira once saw these and said that someday she would like to visit there because it was a place many dragons would go to

        • Go Dwarfs101

          Hey, your right maybe those mountains have The Rock of Kuthian/vault of souls and there could be dragons there/eldunari because dragon like the hadarac desert as Saphira shose us in Eragon.

          • exactly i was just reading past that part in eldest where they pass the mountian range while going to the burning plains

      • Rami Abdallah Rashmawi

        yes there is. it is in the middle of the hadarac desert.

  • Cilmion

    I would think whatever part they play will come into scene when eragon finds the rock of kuathan since solembum told eragon to speak his name meaning it is probably something to do with Eragon l

  • patrick21

    what if eragon 1 fused himself with bid’duams eldunari somehow and they know the true name of  Alagaësia, the ancient language, or galby???

    • Robbybarr1994

      how would they know galbys true name

      • paticktowe21

        idk they could possibly just guess it by hearing his personallity who knows just a guess

      • strider

        remember, oromis said that some people had discovered galby’s true name, but they could not use it, because they did not know what spells he had protected himself with, should someone attempt to use his true name.

    • Rami Abdallah Rashmawi

      i think they know the true name of the ancient language

  • Annie70951

    In one of the interviews cp says that eragon is in a prison but
    Not galby’s , but did cp specify which eragon? Is it possible that
    Eragon one is in the prison??

    • Annie70951

      And when eragon 2 finds Eragon 1 he is in the prison hanging by manacles , no idea who’s prison would be that strong tho

    • Deryk1490

      HOLY CRAP

    • LOL do you have any idea where we can find this interview?!
      didn’t you mess things up? I mean, wasn’t CP mentioning that time when Eragon got arrested at Gil’ead?

      • Annie70851

        No in one of the interviews (I think you can find it under book 4 loose ends or something) he says tht in book 4 he’s currently writing a chapter in which eragon is hanging from manacles in a prison but not galby’s

        • hum, interesting.. I’m checking this out 

        • hum, interesting.. I’m checking this out 

    • LOL do you have any idea where we can find this interview?!
      didn’t you mess things up? I mean, wasn’t CP mentioning that time when Eragon got arrested at Gil’ead?

    • Robbybarr1994

      amazing theory its possible but if it is eragon 1 then wouldnt he break free of the manicles himself

      • Annie70951

        Yes but when/if your dragon dies don’t you become less powerful (in terms of magical ability) so if weakened that way and possibly drugged like eragon 2 was in the first book it may be possible to keep him locked away

        • but hes a elf his magical abilites would be the same as they were before
          and yes he could have been druged but wouldnt he use like epic mind magic’? or epic elf strength

          • cdetour

            you forget that arya was also put in a drug enduced state in Eragon the book. and she would have been dead if not for eragon. so to say that an elf would be able to just escape from galby is very wrong in my opinion

          • Raven Arya Amaranth

             Before the Dragon war, elves did not have the super abilities and longevity. That was granted to them when the war was over. Since Eragon I was at one point a regular, old-fashioned, powerless elf before the pact, would he really have that strength if Bi’Duam is dead? I’m not entirely certain of this one, but he could.

            My belief is the one in the cell is the second Eragon, that they simply recieve information somewhere about them, perhaps from Bi’Duam’s own eldunari. Otherwise, they don’t actually fight for Alagaesia.

            Yes, Rhunon and others are as old, if not older than the first rider, but death doesn’t have to come from specifically old age. Disease, fatal injuries, things of that nature could have taken him out or crippled him, just as Oromis was. We simply don’t have enough information to know all about the past.

  • RichAbI

    Both Eragon 2 and Bid-Duam are surely physically dead by now, but as CP mentioned their involvement in Book4, the duo are somehow able to contact them through the Vault of Souls along with Brom. It is less probable that the VOS is Bid-Duam’s eldunari as it sounds like something much more complex that just a single eldunari. Also it would be very boring for Eragon to gain power by just finding a host of eldunari’s. Tenga is very unlikely to be Eragon1. For one he doesn’t even have pointed ears. But he could be of Grey Folk origin and there is probably more to the relationship between Angela and Tenga. Regarding the Spine, it does seem to have magical properties but it is unlikely that its the spine of a Dragon. It could have an important part to do with the VOS and Bid-Daum’s eldunari. Also remember what the last Razac tried to tell Eragon, “He has almost discovered the true name”. This could refer to the name of the Ancient language itself or it could be an opening to the VOS itself. Most of the  prominent riders had something to do with the Spine. Morzan’s and now Galby’s castle is just next to the Spine, Vrael himself after being injured by Galby fled to the Utgard just next to the Spine. Eragon himself was constantly able to travel deep into the spine without any difficulty even before he became a rider, whereas thousand’s of galby’s most seasoned soilders could not survive. 

    • the Spine is really interesting. It’s gonna be important in the fourth book, nobody can deny this. The theory about the Spine being a dragon is really crazy (I support this, though. and personally I think of it as one of my favorites theories of Inheritance – since Chris mentioned it in the podcast, I went all crazy trying to find a clue to prove that it’s not insane LOL), but it’s most likely that it’s the place where the vault of souls is hidden. It’s clear that a few people are able to travel deep into the Spine and come back. I mean, Sloam had mentioned that the Spine was a dangerous place – people went there and never came back.  But it’s notable that Eragon and others – most riders – are able to travel around the place. As you said, it must have a connection with the riders. It must hide something. And it may be the VoS.

      • lalalal

        There’s also the fact that Galby himself couldn’t actually travel through the Spine the way Eragon did even before being a Rider, I mean, sure Galby survived, but lost his dragon, and i think he must have an insane fear of them to date

  • Asdfas

    I don’t see anything against the “Eragon 1 is Tenga” theory. We simply don’t know enough about either of them to be sure. Plus, this IS cp we’re talking about here, so for all we know Eragon 1 may be Galbatorix and Bid’ Daum is Alagaesia. (unlikely!)

  • Asdfas

    I don’t see anything against the “Eragon 1 is Tenga” theory. We simply don’t know enough about either of them to be sure. Plus, this IS cp we’re talking about here, so for all we know Eragon 1 may be Galbatorix and Bid’ Daum is Alagaesia. (unlikely!)

  • Koolguy999

    Even if they were alive Poalini will have them meet Eragon and have them killed off at once, or Erogon1 will probably be on his deathbed.

  • It would make sense if Bid’duam’s eldunari were playing some sort of role in the 4th book. Elves are, in my opinion, very sentimental when it comes to the dragon’s and the riders. So, maybe they safe-guarded his eldunari  and only the “top riders” knew of it’s existence. It doesn’t make sense that Eragon the First would be around simply because elves at that time were mortal and lived short lives like the human’s. the only way he would live longer is if the dragon’s bond affected him like the human riders do.

    If that isn’t the case, I believe that in Eragon’s training Oromis told him that the mountain peak in the Hadvarc Desert is where dragon’s go when they mate and die. so, lets assume that is where Bid’duam went after Eragon I died. And that’s where his eldunari is and any other dragon that did die there. Those two choices are the most obvious to me.

  • Bjbill

    Something about Spine – Dragon Theory.

    Just look in an Alageasia’s map. It is impossible for a dragon to have a Spine like that…
    At the region where Kuasta (or something like that, the city that Brom was born) is Spine is splited. Moreover, Toark river (the one near at Tirm) passes through the Spine.

    In my opinion, Eragon 1 is dead and Bid’Daum’s Eldunari is in the Vault of Souls.

    • Lalalala

      Well, maybe it’s not a LIVING Dragon, it may actually be part of a Dragon’s skeleton; it went into that position before dying, and maybe something strong enough made it split.

      • Noodley

        or it could be one of those things Saphira was fighting in Brisingr. The serpaents?

  • Well, good article 🙂
    First of all, I didn’t even know that they will play a role! lol
    But anyway, I think that Eragon 1 is dead. As you said, centuries had passed, I guess that even for an immortal living through dozens of centuries would be impossible. However, I think that Bid’Duam is alive. He lives either in his Eldunari or in his original form. Do you guys remember about that Spine theory? It may be a bit crazy but what if Bid’Duam is still alive as an enormous dragon, so big that it’s impossible to him to move?
    Suppose that when Eragon 1 died Bid’Duam was not able (for some reason) to transform into an Eldunari, and instead of that, he remained as a dragon but so sad for his loss that he gave up of everything and dove into a long and eternal sleep. Now suppose that the place the dragon remains sleeping nowadays is the Spine. Does it make any sense? Well, probably not, but it’s a possibility.
    I don’t think that Tenga is Eragon 1. He’s certainly mysterious and wise, etc but he cannot be that old. I think that he is either searching for the true name of the AL, the Eragon’s true name (to open the Vault of Souls, and if he’s really searching for it, so it fits with the theory that Bid’Duam’s Eldunari is hidden in the VoS) or the place where Bid’Duam remains sleeping.

    p.s: sorry if anybody has already pointed out this theory (about the Spine and Bid’Duam).. I’m out of time to see the previous comments right now =S

  • Well, good article 🙂
    First of all, I didn’t even know that they will play a role! lol
    But anyway, I think that Eragon 1 is dead. As you said, centuries had passed, I guess that even for an immortal living through dozens of centuries would be impossible. However, I think that Bid’Duam is alive. He lives either in his Eldunari or in his original form. Do you guys remember about that Spine theory? It may be a bit crazy but what if Bid’Duam is still alive as an enormous dragon, so big that it’s impossible to him to move?
    Suppose that when Eragon 1 died Bid’Duam was not able (for some reason) to transform into an Eldunari, and instead of that, he remained as a dragon but so sad for his loss that he gave up of everything and dove into a long and eternal sleep. Now suppose that the place the dragon remains sleeping nowadays is the Spine. Does it make any sense? Well, probably not, but it’s a possibility.
    I don’t think that Tenga is Eragon 1. He’s certainly mysterious and wise, etc but he cannot be that old. I think that he is either searching for the true name of the AL, the Eragon’s true name (to open the Vault of Souls, and if he’s really searching for it, so it fits with the theory that Bid’Duam’s Eldunari is hidden in the VoS) or the place where Bid’Duam remains sleeping.

    p.s: sorry if anybody has already pointed out this theory (about the Spine and Bid’Duam).. I’m out of time to see the previous comments right now =S

    • Patrick21

      thats actually what i thought to and it could be

  • Jack Perkin

    My theory is that Eragon 1 is dead , but Bid’Duam’s Eldunari lives on but it’s in Galbatorix hands.Galbatorix is trying to find out it true name (to control it, whether he controls an eldrnari though their true name or by dark magic I’m not sure though it may explain the true name Galbatorix is looking for). The reason for this is because Bid’Duam’s is the oldest and most powerful eldunari and therefore will either give Galbatorix the information he seeks or the power needed for his ultimate goal. I believe his ultimate goal is simply out of madness gain the knowledge or power to bring back his first dragon from the dead. After all Galbatorix has stated he has the power of a God and a God main power is to give life. This is my theory, sound far fetched and not likely happen, but it something. I think Tenga probably one of the Grey Folk and not Eragon 1. The Vault of Souls in my opinion is perhaps a place where Eragon 2 may gain the alliance of the spirits (as they are living things in the world of Alagaësia) and they must surely not like Galbatorix for allying with Shades or for another reason. I’ll like people to give feedback on this theory, stating whether it possible of not (i may have made a mistake with some lore).

    Cheers

    Jack Perkin

    • BlueBiscuit

      I really don’t see the spirit theory being plausible. Arya or orimus(spelling) stated that spirits were not the souls of dead beings but separate entities instead. I don’t remember which one as I only have the first book in front of me. Someone correct me if I’m wrong

    • BlueBiscuit

      I really don’t see the spirit theory being plausible. Arya or orimus(spelling) stated that spirits were not the souls of dead beings but separate entities instead. I don’t remember which one as I only have the first book in front of me. Someone correct me if I’m wrong

      • Robbybarr1994

        you are right it wouldnt make sense

  • BlueBiscuit

    Just a question I had and way off topic but here goes

    How can the 2 people on the boat in Eragon’s dream be eragon and arya? It is stated on page 81 at the beginning of ‘Deathwatch’ that ‘The figures slowly boarded the vessel; Two of them, taller than the rest, walked arm in arm.’ That I believe is what everyone says is eragon and arya. If that is true then Arya has to grow. It is assumed that this is during a lord of the rings style elven exodus and everyone else is an elf, but why would she be taller than all the other elves? Either that is not eragon and he is the one on the shore pining or it is someone else entirely that he falls in love with and leaves with. Or to play devil’s advocate to my theory they are only taller to point them out in the dream.

  • Thelordofthemark

    actually it’s “Bid’Daum”, reverse of Muad’Dib, the protagonist of Dune.

    • holy crap! didn’t even realize that!

  • Jarvis

    I think that Eragon will learn where the Vault of Souls is by searching out information on Eragon 1. Why? because Solembum told Eragon to “speak his name” to open the vault of souls. Obviously the vault of souls would have something to do with Eragon 1, considering the present Eragon had never even heard of it until then.

    My own personal theory is that the vault of souls contains Eldunari (considering its name) and that its possible that the vault belonged to Eragon 1 (considering that you have to speak his name to open it). It is possible that Eragon 1 collected Eldunari from the Dragons in order to protect them (considering he was the first Dragon Rider and most definitely the first Elf to find out about the Eldunari) and he may have wanted to protect the Eldunari from being abused.

    I also think I remember that Oromis had heard of the Rock of Kuthian (the location of the vault of souls) and that he couldn’t quite remember why it sounded familiar. It would make sense that he was well informed in the history of Eragon 1, and had possibly come across some information on the Rock of Kuthian at one point in time.

  • Jarvis

    I think that Eragon will learn where the Vault of Souls is by searching out information on Eragon 1. Why? because Solembum told Eragon to “speak his name” to open the vault of souls. Obviously the vault of souls would have something to do with Eragon 1, considering the present Eragon had never even heard of it until then.

    My own personal theory is that the vault of souls contains Eldunari (considering its name) and that its possible that the vault belonged to Eragon 1 (considering that you have to speak his name to open it). It is possible that Eragon 1 collected Eldunari from the Dragons in order to protect them (considering he was the first Dragon Rider and most definitely the first Elf to find out about the Eldunari) and he may have wanted to protect the Eldunari from being abused.

    I also think I remember that Oromis had heard of the Rock of Kuthian (the location of the vault of souls) and that he couldn’t quite remember why it sounded familiar. It would make sense that he was well informed in the history of Eragon 1, and had possibly come across some information on the Rock of Kuthian at one point in time.

    • Lil Uhura

      I think that you’re right.  I would only add that the dragons as a whole have magically erased all knowledge of the VOS similar to what they did with Du Namar Aurboda.

    • BigFan

      i really like your theories and agree with them, just one thing that i want to comment on: you said that you think that the VoS belonged to Eragon 1 because why else would you have to speak his name to open it, but don’t you think that it’s more likely that when Solembum told Eragon 2 to speak His name, he meant his True Name? that would certainly hold more power than just saying a normal name which could be used by anyone. 

  • NinaSvitKona

    I think their both dead, but that Bid’Duam lives in his Eldunari… 
    He could be the “weapon” of the Vault of Souls.
    That Eragon 1=Tenga  …mmm I don’t think so…even if it would be awesome 🙂

  • Azmadeus

    what if eragon 1 is hiding in the spine

    • Cgstockwell

      who remembers that thred a million years ago that the spine was actualy a dragon…Bid”Duram? maybe? i know its probably not true but its funny to guess. dragon driven mad because he survived the death of his master. 

      what would be crazier is if Bid’Duam took a liking to Eragon and that’s why Eragon traversed  the spine so easily. or even knew his destiny!

      anyway someone please tell me if the spine=dragon thing can be disproved.

      • Mmanuche

        Unless the dragon is in a coma I don’t think the Spine could be a dragon.  I mean come on the Spine hasn’t moved in hundreds of years.  And how would trees grow on a dragon? it be pretty tough to dig roots into dragon scales.

        • Anonymous

          I think that the theory is suggesting that the said dragon stayed in place so long that dirt collected on it, and that’s the way trees are able to grow. That said, I still don’t think that the spine is a dragon, the reason you brought up among many others.

  • Adilas73

    I think i know what is going to happen!!! Broms ring holds alot of power, in the book it says the younger the dragon the small its heart of hearts. What if Bid’daum realesed its heart of hearts early, and Brom found it (or was given it) while on a mission.

    • this may not be possible. eragon (new) has felt the ring through his mind and if it had been a HOH, eragon would have felt the dragon’s presence.

      • Adilas73

        But the dragon (could surley) hide its presence from people/other dragons, or put up a mental block.

        • Anonymous

          Thing is, Eragon would realize that he was being blocked. For instance, when Orrin asked Eragon in Brisngr to help him test his mental block, CP said that it was like hitting a brick wall. That tells me that Eragon would automatically notice that he was being blocked

          • Adilas73

            Thing is, with dragon magic anything is possible…

      • cdetour

        when you touch a HOH with your flesh you have no choice but to be taken over by the consciousness of the dragon you are holding 

    • Horsegal4ever

      Small enough to be a ring? maybe if it came up when he was a baby.

    • Eschwartz

      the eldunari is the color of the dragon, bid’daum was white and the ring is green, and made of emerald not the eldunari position. and how does BID’DAUM’s eldunari get passes around for uncounted years unknowingly as an elvish ring?

  • Vira

    A thought crossed my mind while I was reading this. What if Bid’Duam’s Eldunari is at Utgard? It’s said that Vrael went there to ‘gather strength.’ What better strength than that of the first bonded dragon? And if that’s the case, it makes sense that such a treasure would be known to only a few, and possibly only to the leader of the riders.

  • ckmc

    My theory is kind of an off-shoot of the “The Spine is a Dragon” theory.

    What if, instead of it being a dragon, part of it is actually the Eldunari of Bid’Duam?

    Just an idea…

    • Cgstockwell

      oh, didnt see this one before i posted that reply

  • Littlee62

    i know this is highly unlikely but i remember the book saying a dragon in distress may pull its rider’s soul out into it self when it dies. what if eragon and bi daum share bi daum eldunari. and maybe the eldunari is hidden and our protagonist finds it in the vault of souls or where ever and thats where we find out more bout the first eragon…… my other story is that eragon reads that one book i forget how to spell it but he reads it and seeks out the monks that heslant was apart of maybe to see if they know where the vos is or something and while he is there they share a story bow the first eragon with him.

  • Has anyone ever thought that maybe Eragon 1 in the guardian of the Vault Of Souls and and he saw into the future and saw what was coming and knew that Eragon would need him and that is why he is in hiding and not fighting Galbatorix directly?

    • Kathryn

      CP said there are no more hidden riders in Alagaesia. I’m going to just start copying and pasting this statement.

      • Skating4jc

        well, if his dragon is dead maybe, then technically he isnt a rider anymore due to lack of dragon

        • Anonymous

          I seem to recall CP saying that once a Rider lost his dragon, he/she became something else. I can’t remember the right term right off the top of my head, but they weren’t called Dragon Riders anymore

          • Bombshell1317

            I’m pretty sure the term is Indlvarn. I forget exactly what was said about it, but that’s the word you want 🙂

          • Anonymous

            Thanks! 
             

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          • Eschwartz

            thats if the dragon was only an eldunari

          • Bombshell1317

            I’m pretty sure the term is Indlvarn. I forget exactly what was said about it, but that’s the word you want 🙂

      • Skating4jc

        well, if his dragon is dead maybe, then technically he isnt a rider anymore due to lack of dragon

      • Skating4jc

        it’s called wordplay

      • BigFan

        i am getting tired of reading the same arguments over and over, you are right, CP said that there are no more Dragon Riders coming into the series, except for maybe the new rider that gets the green egg, BUT Eragon 1 can still be alive while his dragon is dead or without a body and being a Eldunari, when this happens a rider and his/her dragon is an Eldunari they are not Shurtugal, but something else ( can’t quite remember the name for it) so it is still possible that Eragon 1 is still alive, or that he is dead and his dragon is still alive, though i very much doubt that both of them are alive in a physical body

    • Cgstockwell

      …well um…im just gona say this, if eragon the first was alive, judging on his age an knowledge of magic, he would kick Galbatorix’[email protected]:disqus #$. im sure the first dragon rider had an infinite amount of trickery up his sleeves. i dont think he would wait around for eragon for one moment.

    • Cgstockwell

      …well um…im just gona say this, if eragon the first was alive, judging on his age an knowledge of magic, he would kick Galbatorix’s  %#$. im sure the first dragon rider had an infinite amount of trickery up his sleeves. i dont think he would wait around for eragon for one moment.

      • Anonymous

        What if Eragon the First was/is crippled by the same ailment that Oromis was crippled by, so he knows that he can’t face Galby on his own. That would make sense if he really wanted to help Alagaesia, he would be better off waiting for the next Dragon Rider (Eragon the second).

    • Eschwartz

      then hed just kill galby at birth

  • X X Bloodbane

    I have a strong feeling that Bid’Duam is still alive, and is the spine itself, since in Eragon it mentions that Galbetorix’s men disappeared in the spine, thus Bid’Duam ate them, I had a feeling that since book one, that The Spine was a dragon and it makes since if Bid’Duam is still alive that he would be as huge, why not a serise of mountains huge..

    • Kathryn

      Have you seen a map of Alagaesia? Do you realize how extensive the Spine mountain range is? It covers more than half the length of Alagaesia from north to south, and extends past Alagaesia’s known northern boundaries. It’s highly unlikely that the entire mountain range is the actual spine of a dragon. Although I do like the theory that there is a dragon hidden in there somewhere.

    • Tradakk

      That would be the most B.A. thing to ever happen in the Inheritance series. Can you imagine what kind of a scene that would be? Galbatorix and Shruikan wetting themselves while Eragon and Saphira fly above Bid’Duam like tiny flies. I might even call something like that the biggest plot twist in recent fiction.

    • Denmark111

      I personally doubt that a dragon could grow so long, and grow so little wide. It is more likely that the spine is the spine of a long dead Bid’Duam.

      • Anonymous

        Interesting thought, hadn’t thought of it that way. It makes sense though

      • Aplussoccerkid

        That is a good theory. I havn’t thought of it like that. It makes sense though because wouldn’t a living dragon be breathing, and wouldn’t you feel that if you were in The Spine. Just a thought.

    • Horsegal4ever

      Well, if he’s not THE spine himself, what about PART of the spine? or lives somewhere IN the spine? They’re big enough to hold him if not small enough to BE him.

  • Fairth

    •  Is Eragon 1 dead or alive?
    Dead.
    •  Is Bid’Duam dead or alive?
    Not in dragon form, it’s highly unlikely that Eragon 1 is alive, and I don’t think that Bid’Daum would wish to stay alive for so long without his rider.
    •  If Bid’Duam is dead, do you believe the Eldunari remains?
    Possibly.
    •  What role rill Eragon 1 and Bid’Duam play in Book 4?
    Idea 1:  Eragon 2 has shown interesting sleep-scry abilities, so perhaps Eragon 1 has some sort of scrying ability that crosses time or maybe Eragon 2 does some sort of sleep-scry into the past.  an idea I like very much.
    Idea 2:  Bid’Duams Eldunari remains, and shares some energy, knowledge, memories, or even a “memory video” with someone (most likely Eragon 2 and Saphira).  Although, I imagine it will come at the cost of having to agree to destroy Bid’Duams Eldunari for him so that he no longer has to live without his Eragon.
    •  Is there any merit to the “Tenga is Eragon 1” theory?
    Highly unlikely, but what if he was, and he was searching for the way into the VoS to get to Bid’Duams Eldunari.  (Highly unlikely, just throwing it out there)
    •  Do Bid’Duam and Eragon 1 have anything to do with the Vault of Souls?
    I would tend to think so, be it Bid’Duams Eldunari being inside, them being its creators, or offering some key or clue to its location or a method of accessing it.

  • Emerin

    CP did say that there were no more alive dragon riders that would pop up out of nowhere, but he didn’t say that there couldn’t be one alive (like Eragon 1) on the otherside of the world. I think Eragon 2 will leave Alagaesia (part of the reason he will leave) to find Eragon 1. 

  • Matt

    If you want to go real crazy, I seem to remember Brom or Oromis told Eragon of the dangers of looking into Saphira’s eyes and how he could become trapped within her if his body were killed. Maybe Bid’Duam is alive and Eragon 1 is inside him? haha, just a thought. Or even more intrestingly they both reside within Bid’Duam’s eldunari because that happend to Eragon1 and then Bid’Duam later transfered into his eldunari with Eragon1 part of him.

    • Kathryn

      Oromis talked to Eragon about how some dragon/rider pairs would, in the terror of losing their mate (for lack of a better word) to death, would take the other’s soul into their own body. It’s not a good thing, but it has nothing to do with looking into a dragon’s eyes. If there was something dangerous about Eragon looking into Saphira’s eyes he would have been destroyed before the end of the first book.

      • Eschwartz

        first of all, no one, especially brom, said that he shouldnt look in saphiras eyes, etc. thats nonsense. and Glaedr said to eragon NOT to even think about sheltering your Bonded in your body, for you will surely die in the same manner and reason as one who tries to resurrect the dead, and, “Even if it were possible, it would be an abomination to have multiple conscousnesses in one body.” (Eldest, page 441)

    • Horsegal4ever

      I did think about that type of theory, wondering if it could happen.

  • firemonkey

    I don’t necessarily agree with the lingering questions section that says that Eragon 1’s appearance cannot be merely factual.  My hypothesis is that Eragon Shadeslayer will learn more about himself (and possibly discover his true name) only through learning about the first Eragon and Saphira will learn more about herself only through learning about Bid’Duam. 

    There is also the question of who is the other Eragon because I recall (and I may be wrong) that in history 3 people have been named Eragon.  Who was the other one I wonder.

  • Matt

    The floating magic crystal on that island? Couldn’t someone who doesn’t know what a eldunari is mistake one for a crystal that gives off magic?

  • Matt

    Also quite possibly Bid’Duam’s eldunari is in Galbatorix’s possesion but he has been unable to break his mind to use any of it’s power or communicate. This could possibly be what he has been working on for so long in Uru’bean, trying to break Bid’Duam and he could be getting close. He may have found it when he killed the leader of the riders at Vroengard, or possibly retrieved it himself from the Vault of Souls.

    • ok so if galby did retrieve it then why would soloebum tell him to look in the vault of souls

  • Iberius

    I think it is possible that Tenga is indeed Eragon and that the answer he is searching for is how to open the vault of souls, which may contain Bid’ Duam’s Eldunari. I can certainly see Tenga going quite mad knowing where Bid’Duam is but being unable to communicate with him through the Vault of Souls. It seems to me that few things would cause one to be so feverish in trying to find the answer to a question(s). What if all the questions Tenga attempts to answer is so that he can cope with not being able to open the vault of souls?

    • Kathryn

      According to the information we have from CP Tenga cannot be the first Eragon. If Tenga was Eragon and no one knew, that would make him a hidden rider. CP has said there are no more hidden riders in the series.

      • Horsegal4ever

        no, he’s only a hidden rider if he still has his dragon. Brom said he wasn’t a rider, yet he used to be. so its a possibility for Tenga to be Eragon 1

      • Iberius

        Lol normally, I would agree with you and I heard this information as well; however, I would define a dragon rider as someone with their dragon still alive. For example, Brom “was” a dragon rider but after he lost his dragon was he ever really considered a “dragon rider” again?

        In my opinion Brom became easily obsessed with his tasks. I would argue that this helped him cope with losing his dragon. Tenga seems to have that same obsessive streak to him to an even greater degree.

        Is my theory probable, certainaly; however, I still believe it is quite possible.

        • Iberius

          Hahaha and I noticed a mistake…….my theory is NOT probable, simply possible.

    • Tugal Brisingr

      eragon 1 is dead. he got his head cut off by galbo

      • Kathryn

        Ummm, I agree that the first Eragon is dead. But where did you get the idea that Galbatorix cut off his head???

        • Tugal Brisingr

          I cant remeber but it was sometime in the secod book or maybe i just thought thst? youll have to read the second book im pretty sure galbo chopped off some important dudes head though

          • BlueBiscuit

            Vreal is the one that got kicked “in the fork of his legs” his head chopped off. Seems to be a little misinformation going around

          • Tugal Brisingr

            ah ha thats the one opps got it wrong

  • Matt

    I think that if they are alive, that they are both at the location that Eragon/Saphira will sail to when the leave.

  • Kathryn

    I mentioned this in the previous Big Twenty article, the one about Angela, but since a similar theory (hidden rider) came up in this week’s it bears repeating: According to the January posting of CP’s Q&A, there are no more hidden riders in the series. Therefore, the first Eragon is not alive and will not make a sudden, physical appearance to the contemporary Eragon.

    Also, since the Vault of Souls came up in this theory as a possible location for Bid’Daum’s eldunari, I would like to mention a thought I had a few days ago. There’s a lot of speculating going on about what and where this is. I, for one, am a fan of the theory that it’s the location of a bunch of eldunari, likely Galbatorix’s stash. I’ve seen a lot of people posting that it’s a cave or something similiar, but what if it’s simpler than that? What if the answer has been staring us in the face this whole time? What if it is literally a vault of souls? A hidden, locked vault where Galbatorix keeps his eldunari, possibly in his fortress of a castle. That would provide a setting and plot leading to Eragon locked in a dungeon.

    • Lil Uhura

      While I agree that the Vault of Souls refers to an actual location, I highly doubt that it’s a place controlled by Galbatorix. Why else would Solembum have told Eragon to speak his name in order to open it?

      • Essa

        What if Solembum was talking about his true name, which could have something magic?

    • Arvindr

      there is definitly some sense in all that, mostly the first part. But you obviously can’t mention enough what Cp said during Q&A; there are no more hidden riders!!! About the vault of souls it seems unlikely to me, to obvious I guess and how would he free them if the all powerfull king is so close? Eragon might indeed get captured by sneaking into Galbatorix’s fortress.

      Or perhaps; and this is something I would like that he’s being captured while sneaking into Morzan’s old castle ( in search of the green egg ) since the Ra’zac mentions it as a place where galbatorix likes to hang out. and yes this is off topic!!The rock formation within Hadarac dessert seems more likely then.

      about Eragon 1 and Bid’Daum: there both no longer alive, finding the eldunari seems possible and certainly not unlikely finding them inside the vault of souls or seeing them mentioned by elves or eldunarya seems even more likely. For the other questions I would say that there all to unlikely. Tenga just does’nt make it for an extremely old rider just see above.

  • Amanda King

    I personally hope its explained how they died (if they did of course) After all Dragons and their Riders are immortal…

    • Dr Who

      lies, they can still be killed by blade, poison, or incurable diseases.

      • Oshjosh93

        immortal means you can live forever, not that you’re invulnerable.

  • Emerin

    I think they are alive and have gone off to explore and see the world, not just necessarily hiding.

  • Killam

    Bidaum’s Eldunari COULD be the ‘floating crystals’ we hear so much about. After all Eldunari are only really known to dragon riders and only the experienced ones.

  • Logic Lawyer

    The size of an entire continent? I doubt that. According to both the dates in the deluxe edition of Eldest, as well as statements in “Brisingr”, it is made clear that Du Fyrn Skulblaka ended a little over two and a half millennia before the events of the series. That’s only about 3-4 times the age of Glaedr. Glaedr, after several centuries of life, is three times the size of Saphira. I sincerely doubt that Bid’daum, if he were still alive, would be more than three or four times the size of Glaedr, and while huge, that would be nowhere near the size of an entire continent.

    • Could be a small continent!

      • flyingdeadman

        or perhaps the Spine?

      • E.

        An island?

    • i have to agree he may be a bit bigger than glaedr but not the size of a continent

    • i have to agree he may be a bit bigger than glaedr but not the size of a continent

  • I believe that Bid’Daum’s eldunari is possibly hidden w/in the Vault of Souls along with Eragon 1 

  • Anonymous

    joed gave eragon domir wydra (i believe that was the name of the book) in book 3, paolini said that a brief history of them will appear. what i think is that something similar to this happened centuries ago and it will be recorded in that book. eragon is going to read and learn how eragon 1 defeated whomever it was and its gonna turn into a history repeating itself thing. just a thought

  • Horsegal4ever

    lol it’s cool to call myself the second public person to chat on a popular post! 😛 This is something I’ve never really thought about, Mike, I’m glad y’all have brought this subject into my perspective! I actually think it my be possible that Eragon 1 (:D) is Tenga. With a mind gone crazy, of course. I agree, I don’t think they’re alive. Bid’Duam’s Eldunari, I think, will most definitely come into play at some point. Is there goign to be a BIG TWENTY aboUT Tenga/ Just wondering, because I DO have my theories on him. Should I spill them now or wait?

    • Amethyst Rose

      I agree. According to the books, when a Rider looses his/her dragon, there was a chance that the rider would go completely mad and if Bid’Duam’s dead, that could explain it.

  • JS1813

     hmmm…. i wonder where a massive dragon would hide…. oh wait…. what if it was hiding in plain site, and the only thing visible was it’s back?….. spine theory anyone?

    • Kathryn

      Interesting, but not likely. If the Spine were actually the back of a dragon, that would mean the dragon is more than half the width (North to South) of Alagaesia. I may be wrong, but I think Mike was just kidding about Bid’Daum being the size of a continent.

    • E.

      But the spin is full of grass, dirt, & trees. Explain how that grew on a dragon’s back…lol

      • Noodley

        Do you know about pioneer species and ecological succession? Whole forests can grow out of volcanic rock. When a creature the size of Bid’Daum settles down, you don’t think there’s a little bit of dust floating in the air? 

    • It could be possible that Bid Daum is perhaps one small mountain, but I don’t think he is the entire spine (if alive at all) because for one thing, a mountain sized dragon settling down for so long that forests begin to grow around it would be a significant enough event that it would have probably made its way into the myth and lore that the bards sing about through alagaesia

  • Anyone remember the Rock of Kuthian (spelling?) Seems like a good place to store an ancient eldurnai, which (depending on the age of BidDaum when he probably died) could be enormous(…or hidden in the middle of the Spine, where BidDaum can still reach out with magic? explains the army vanishing). Or the VOS, either really works

  • Shishkabob123456789

    No problem Mike! just happy to be reading this.

  • Shishkabob123456789

    No problem Mike! just happy to be reading this.

  • Shishkabob123456789

    No problem Mike! just happy to be reading this.

  • I understand that this is up later than anticipated and apologize for that. It was a tremendously busy and long day. Next week’s post will be back to its normal time (Monday morning).