Hypothetical Future of Inheritance Movies – Pt 1

It doesn’t take most Inheritance fans long to react to the Eragon movie from 2006. “Hardcore” Inheritance fans’ consensus was dissatisfaction with plot alteration. Unfortunately, in Hollywood this isn’t an uncommon occurrence—in fact, movie studios are infamous for heavily altering the plots of movies adapted from books. Movie studios face a difficult task in converting novels—unrestricted by time length or specific target audiences—into movies that will hit it big at the box office. In some cases, they can pull it off; in other cases, not so much. Continue reading and we’ll explore the specifics behind continuing the Inheritance movies!So what went wrong? In the eyes of this Eragon fan, the major mistake was the lack of confidence in the Eragon book. The narrative deviations are almost too extensive to allow an Eldest movie to follow the book’s plot without a great deal of backtracking. A lot was left out of Eragon, leaving this one-man team with a lot of work to get things back on (hypothetical) track.

I plan to explore how to pick up the Inheritance Cycle’s movies from where Fox left off. How can we fix the plot holes left by having to condense the Eragon book into a ninety-minute movie? How can we fill these holes without wasting thirty minutes of the Eldest movie explaining plot from Eragon? And in an effort to be entirely clear, we have no news of future Inheritance movie plans. This article is purely speculation and hypothetical planning from a wishful fan.

How to Pick Up Where Eragon Left Off While Staying True to the Plot

Like all movie adaptations of good books, Fox faced a difficult task –condensing the five-hundred page Eragon into a feature-length film. The plot was changed, cut, re-worked and in some cases, forgotten. Unfortunately, to continue the core Inheritance story, we have to start with clean-up duty. We have plot holes to fill, plot to re-work, and plot to introduce for the first time.

So how do we go about doing this? I see two major options:

    1. Re-film Eragon but in the eyes of a different character. We wouldn’t be remaking the Eragon movie, we’d be telling the tale (in some cases, a different but related tale) from another character’s perspective.
    2. Spend the first thirty minutes of our Eldest movie bombarding our audience with “plot fillers,” catching everyone up on what they missed in Eragon so that the plot in Eldest makes sense and flows nicely.

Since this is my hypothetical production, I’m going to choose option one. Option two doesn’t seem practical. Wasting the first thirty minutes of the Eldest movie telling tales from Eragon doesn’t seem like a wise decision. We also cannot forget Eldest’s length. . . we’re going to be struggling to convert the eight-hundred pages that make up Eldest into a decent length movie without cutting major plot and destroying the book. We need all the extra time we can get.

Though I’ve chosen option one, it does have its own minor downside. Eragon only has one character’s point of view – Eragon’s. If we choose to film a movie from a different character’s perspective, we’re going to have to work hard to stay true to that character’s back story without causing plot problems down the line. In my eyes, we have three characters to choose between:

    Brom – a character rich in history and knowledge, all relevant to the plot of Inheritance as a whole. We could delve into backstories leading up to the events in Eragon, explaining about dragons, their Riders, the war, elves, dwarves and more, all through Brom’s eyes
    Saphira – sure, she makes the same journey Eragon does, but she is her own being (aside from the sharing of thoughts) with her own unique story, having been conscious inside of her egg for a very long time, witnessing select parts of history leading up to the story of Eragon
    Murtagh – the fan favorite. Thanks to Eldest and Brisingr, we’re now privy to more information on Murtagh’s background than we knew during our first read-through of Eragon. Murtagh plays a vital role in the rest of the series; his father’s role in the Fall of the Riders, growing up in Galbatorix’s fortress, joining forces and inevitably “turning” on Eragon all tell a unique tale hardly explored in the Eragon movie

Unfortunately, Christopher killed Brom too early in Eragon for him to tell the whole tale, and Saphira’s story is too close to Eragon’s to provide a different story line. But Murtagh. . . Murtagh is a character rich in backstory relevant to the current plot and the future books. Murtagh’s tale will allow us to fill all the holes the Eragon movie has left us with. And not only will we be able to fix narrative shortcomings, we’ll be able to tell a whole new (though related) tale.

Coming Soon: Part 2, Murtagh – The Movie

Part two of Mike Macauley’s “The Hypothetical Future of the Inheritance Movies” will explore in detail his “second movie” in the Inheritance movie line-up, “Murtagh – The Movie”. Part two will be released soon here on Shur’tugal. Please remember that the above editorial is a hypothetical opinion piece only and does not reflect any opinions or future plans of 20th Century Fox.

  • Dakotafrain

    Are you making another eragon movie

  • MeghanSwiftSword

    I would pay a lot of money to see a movie from Murtagh’s pov. He ROX!!!

  • Bob

    Testing Ajax.

    Comments.

    Symbols: ~!@#$%^&*()_ >

  • Bob

    We’ve been pretty busy working on the new layout!

  • Faolins

    … and you saying that probably wont change a thing

  • paulie14wyh

    just throwing this out there but a week or so has officially become a month

  • Bob

    I have no idea. Check with those people on that site about it. They’ve got their own staff who deal with that 😛

  • Faolins

    So no own fiction ?

  • Glorfindel

    Ah…

  • Bob

    Yeah, I’m using the new layout to do stuff on Shurtugal.

    Fan Fiction is the stories people write using characters from the books. Maybe changing them a bit to suit their story. Moderators make sure they’re appropriate by reading and approving them.

  • Glorfindel

    FROM the new layout? Wow, I obviously have no idea how anything works. And good grief, I meant, what’s fan fiction? the forums? the fan art? The books that people are writing?

  • Chris

    As soon as he’s done coding some stuff we’ll have it up.

  • Bob

    Could be.

    (Depends on how fast I can type :P)

  • feanarang

    So Robert…if you’re posting from the new layout, does that mean we could be seeing it relatively soon?

  • Bob

    Posting this comment from the new layout which is coming along well…

    Also, I call this new layout: OPERATION SQUIGGLES (so tempted to rename it PROJECT BACILLACEAE)

    This news system, when I created it, was: PROJECT OSTRACIIDAE

    Am I cool, or what…?

  • Chris

    The fan fiction moderator moderates the fan fiction

  • Saphira

    I like the new layout, its really cool

  • Daniel

    the new layout isnt that much different in look… the thing that rly bugs me about this layout is that i have to use the middle mouse button to scroll over and not all of the computers that i use have have a middle mouse button…

  • Glorfindel

    What does the fan fiction moderator do

  • Glorfindel

    How come you don’t like this layout?

  • Glorfindel

    Trendy. Chuckles.

  • Mike

    We’re getting a new layout because it’s broken and because I really don’t like this layout.

    The language on there is Latin. It’s standard filler text that web designers use so they don’t have to make up nonsense of their own as filler.

  • Chris

    We are getting a new layout because Mike is trying to be trendy. 🙂

  • feanarang

    Yeah, the layout does look darker. I believe the language is Latin, though I couldn’t translate it for you. As for why it’s written like that, only Mike could tell you. And i’m not sure of the exact reason this layout is “broken,” but my internet explorer always tells me that there are errors on the page.

  • Glorfindel

    Awesome! Thanks so much Feanarang. It looks a lot like this one, just darker. So, um, what’s that language? And why is it written like that?
    And what do you mean by “this layout is broken”?

  • feanarang

    @Glorfindel:

    Here’s the link to the pic of the new layout from one of Mike’s earlier posts:

    http://i41.tinypic.com/6fsccw.jpg

  • Glorfindel

    Can someone just tell me how to see the layout?

  • Daniel

    the new layout looks rly dark.

  • lorearia

    200 coments. Wow. With mine 201

  • Evarinya

    Haha, im going to have to check in there sometime!
    What all do you do there?

  • Faolins

    There you go Glorfindel , that’s our website .

    Click on Mike’s twitter and go back a couple of pages , you’ll find it there

  • Glorfindel

    Well,I created a twitter account, and I have no idea what I am doing. I wrote a bunch of messages on something that said I was following Mike I think. Weird. I just want to see the layout.

  • Faolins
  • Saphira

    oops i didn’t mean to post twice.
    no i haven’t seen the site what is the site’s address?

  • Faolins

    You posted twice 😀

    Have you seen are site ?

    Definatly !!!! With Rob as Producer :S

  • Saphira

    yea i couldn’t get on the computer for a month because i got grounded (its a long story)I feel so out of touch with the world!

    Yea mike, you should write the script for the next movie.

  • Saphira

    yea i couldn’t get on the computer for a month because i got grounded (its a long story)I feel so out of touch with the world!

    Yea mike, you should write the script for the next movie.

  • Faolins

    Maybe Mike should make it ….

    Haha , put that idea in the bag !!

    Yer Saphira , been a long time without Beyond the Borders!

  • Saphira

    OMG! i couldn’t get on the computer in the past month and look what has happened! So is this really going to be a movie or what? It would be really cool if someone (other than Fox) redid the first movie. And maybe instead of making it from just one character’s point of view they could make it from many points of view. This is so cool!

    By the way….WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO ANNOUNCE THE WINNERS OF THE BEYOND THE BORDERS CONTEST?!?!?!?!?

    sorry i haven’t said that in a while.

  • Faolins

    Is the layout nearly done Mike ?

  • Mike

    No, what you see on there is what you get with an account, but an account makes it easier because you can follow anyone you want to follow and the updates show all in one place, versus you having to go to each person’s page to see their follows.

  • Faolins

    What to speak to Mike ?

  • Glorfindel

    Do you need a twitter account to get “farther in” so to speak?

  • Mike

    http://www.twitter.com/mikemacauley – that’s my Twitter account, I post a lot of “inside scoop” stuff for Shurtugal and other projects. 😛

  • Glorfindel

    How do I get to your twitter account Mike?

  • Glorfindel

    Oops. Never mind, I just saw Mike’s post, which answered my question. LOL, ignore me.

  • Glorfindel

    Please…

  • Glorfindel

    FOR THE LOVE OF DOUGHNUTS, AND FOR THE LAST TIME! WILL SOMEONE PLEEEEEASE TELL ME WHAT THE DEAL IS WITH THIS NEW LAYOUT. HOW DO I SEE IT, AND WHY IS THERE A NEW LAYOUT?????

  • Evarinya

    Looks good guys :]

  • Mike

    Because this layout is broken in a number of ways and doesn’t really serve the purpose we’re shifting the site toward very soon.

  • feanarang

    i like the new layout! looks good!

  • lorearia

    Looks neat. (aren’t we getting off the topic of the article?) (Not that I’m complaining)

  • Faolins

    Btw why are you changing it ? This Layout is still pretty new isn’t it ?

  • Faolins

    Oh right sorry , I went off . I clicked Mike’s name and it randomly took me to his Twitter account and it was there 🙂

    Click the name 🙂

  • Mike

    I posted a screenshot of the layout on my Twitter account (another reason for people to follow me on Twitter!) as well as shared it with people on the site’s chat.

    Here’s a link to a screenshot from Photoshop:

    http://i41.tinypic.com/6fsccw.jpg

  • Glorfindel

    What’s RSS?

  • Glorfindel

    Come on. This is driving me mad. Why is their a new layout, and how do you see it?

  • lorearia

    How did you get to see the new layout? What color is it?

  • Faolins

    Well not so much color but Layout

  • Faolins

    Yep 🙂 It’s really good !!

    Love the new colour!

  • lorearia

    New layout? When will it be used?

  • Glorfindel

    I’m sorry. I’m kind of spamming the comments. I’ll stop now.

  • Glorfindel

    You posted, like, 10 seconds after me.

  • Glorfindel

    Hi lorearia.

  • Glorfindel

    So how many comments per page are there supposed to be? I thought that I heard 100. Someone told me 20.

  • lorearia

    Just thinking, if they do decide to wait a few years and the remake Eragon maybe I could get a part in the movie as an extra or something, being older wouldnt that be neat, not likely with me because of where I live

  • Glorfindel

    The new layout for Shurtugal.com???? Another? Already? What’s wrong with this one?

  • Bob

    @Glorfindel: The system was skipping every other page of comments. There should have been more pages to begin with. Also, the news system released Dec. 12th, I used some beta testers from the chat. Plus I started work on the system in September.

    @Faolins: WHAT? How? You like it?

  • Daniel

    i dont know what the weights for the movie swords were, but some swords can weigh up to 30lbs

  • Trianna

    I have a new respect for all of the actors who had fights in the movie. Stage combat is really hard! And if the rapiers my school uses are 4 lbs each, I can’t imagine what the huge broadswords they use in the movies weight!

  • Faolins

    I just saw the new layout for Shurtugal , it looks really good 🙂

  • Glorfindel

    And what’s with the comments pages?? Just a little bit ago, there were only three, for about 140 comments. Now with 158 comments, there’s 7.
    ?????

  • Glorfindel

    Right, that’s what I thought, but has this new system really been in place since December 10? I didn’t think it was that long ago already. That’s why I was confused.

  • Evarinya

    LOL

  • Bob

    What you used to post that comment. 😛

  • Glorfindel

    What’s a user account?

  • Bob

    Accounts that were registered more then two months ago and have not been activated have been deleted!

    Random Facts:

    My account was created September 7th, 2008.

    First Regular User Account was created December 10th, 2008.

  • Daniel

    i think i may write my opinions on how to rescue the “Inheriatnce” movie franchise.

  • Faolins

    Lol it’s only like 10 of us on here .

    Odd as , no offence Mike , on Mugglenet you hardly ever see the same person.

    Not complaining Mike 🙂 Still prefer Shurtugal

  • Evarinya

    Lol Very well said Feanarang

  • Glorfindel

    Chuckles

  • Faolins

    Very nice Feanarang 😉

  • feanarang

    I’ve noticed a pattern in our posting. It seems like we can never stay on topic for more than 40 comments (or a week, whichever period is shorter). And if Mike posts something saying when he expects his next update to be and doesn’t meet it, it turns into a Mike-bashing fest. and then Faolins, Glorfindel, Evarinya, (sometimes daniel and brisingr) and me reminding everyone that those on shurty staff do in fact have lives, though maybe you people thought that they were robots and lived only to serve you by updating shurtugal.com. While I like frequent updates as much as the next person, GIVE IT A REST! Mike will post it when he has it finished and has the time to do so. Shurtugal.com is not his sole occupation. Now my rant is done. Thank you.

  • Glorfindel

    Who’s VV?

  • Evarinya

    Very true VV
    They will get it when they have the time ok?
    They are probably really busy!

  • Faolins

    Hmm .. perhaps because they have lives ?

    No offence , Dragonprincess26 or anyone else that’s wondering where they are , but let them get on with their lives , we’re lucky they do this, I’m sure they have other things to do

  • Dragonprincess26

    How come they are not updating?

  • Evarinya

    Calm down dragoness!! Its not the end of the world!
    Just be patient.. Mike will get it to us eventually. He has loads to do right now.

  • Dragoness

    Oh post something new already! I do beleive its been two weeks since the last post. If this is post #1. Where is #2? I want it to continue!! ARGGGGGGGGG! 🙂

  • Faolins

    Worked then

  • Daniel

    whenever i cant get on here on my computer its just a white screen

  • lorearia

    No problem Glorfindel. Please hurry up Mike,porfavor apurate.

  • Glorfindel

    Did it send you guys to ask.com?

  • Evarinya

    Ahhh.. no wonder!

  • Faolins

    That’s what it does when it crasehes 🙂

  • Glorfindel

    Aaah… Thanks lorearia, I should have figured that out. Did this website, like, crash for a little while this afternoon? Because it routed me to ask.com again.

  • lorearia

    No i am not spanish but i speak it fluently.
    Glorfindel,San is for a male sint, Santa is for a female saint.

  • Evarinya

    LOL

  • Faolins

    😉 Ok , Glorfindel

  • Glorfindel

    Well….. I guess that there is Fort San Mateo. Never mind, just ignore me.

  • Glorfindel

    Wait, doesn’t “Santa” mean saint? Santa Valentin? Like, “Santa Marta”?

  • Glorfindel

    *Roars with laughter*. That’s hilarious. It’s true though, oddly enough. I mean, all over the web, on msn.com, on billboards, in magazines, it’s all about advertising for things to buy or do for married couples, or ways to get engaged. That definitely would make someone very conscious of their singularity. (Singularity??) (Singleness?)

  • feanarang

    @Glorfindel:

    S.A.D. means Singles Awareness Day. On no other day does it become so obvious to single people that they are single. lol.

  • Faolins

    lorearia , are you Spanish ?

  • lorearia

    Give Mike a break he will do it when he does it, may it be a day week month or year from now. Though I would prefer a day.

  • Glorfindel

    Maybe Mike has a LIFE, perhaps a foreign concept to some of you malcontents. It’s ok Mike, I understand.
    Faolins-
    I definitely spelled it right. I didn’t know that shurtugal crashed a lot. I have no clue about what that means, or how that happens, but I’ll take your word. What is S.A.D. mean? And what is the name of the website that you guys talk on?

  • Faolins

    Yer or at some point , hopefully in the near future ,

    Or when I can , or be bothered

    Or .. just keep saying what he says and ignore the people who get upset about some1 missing a deadline

  • Evarinya

    Hello Faolin 🙂

    Well then maybe he should say “As soon as I can”

  • Faolins

    Hi everyone !

  • Daniel

    i dont think saying “soon” is a good idea Mike. i remember when you did that before and it didn’t work out to well

  • Evarinya

    Oh! and btw
    HAPPY VALENTINES DAY EVERYONE!!!

  • Evarinya

    See! I knew Mike had a reason 🙂
    Its ok Mike, we aren’t blaming you, and I think we are all very happy that you even have ANY time to do all the wonderful things for this site.

    Come on guys, give Mike a break 🙂

  • lorearia

    Happy valentines day,in spanish feliz dia de San Valentin.

  • feanarang

    Happy S.A.D., everyone!

  • alucard

    Happy V-day (

  • Faolins

    Thanks Mike 🙂

    Seeee , just wait!

  • Mike

    Please, everyone, keep in mind that this is one of my many jobs, and this job is a volunteer job. I have a lot of projects I’m balancing right now and I find it hard to spread my time out evenly.

    For instance, I’ve been hard at work with Allison re-designing the current Shur’tugal layout to function better for some big things we have coming up.

    I think it’s difficult for some people to understand that I am unable to dedicate all of my time to writing for Shur’tugal with so many back projects going along (many of which are geared toward making Shur’tugal better). If I do provide a “deadline” and miss it, people get mad. If I don’t provide a deadline, people get mad. Perhaps I’ll just start saying “soon”.

    Either way, good things come to those who are patient.

  • Evarinya

    He probably will.

  • Faolins

    🙂 True , ah well 🙂

    Mike are you planning to release more topics after this ?

  • All.Hail.Emperor.Murtagh

    I can’t blame Mike for taking a bit longer than expected if he’s sick or something, but I hope the next article will be up soon. There’s been little enough posted recently.

  • Faolins

    Guys , give it a rest . Mike will post it when he is ready , it really doesn’t matter . Some people tried to have a go at Mike last time , and that didn’t work so well …

  • Athena

    Then he shouldn’t propose a deadline he can’t meet. But he always does…

  • Evarinya

    Your welcome 🙂

    Well mike has been sick. He will get it when he is ready!

  • SeverusSnape

    come on mike, two weeks you’ve kept us waiting

  • Faolins

    Thankyou 😛

  • Evarinya

    Those are good reasons..
    any of them could be right.

  • Faolins

    Because yout typed it in wrong ? Or like you said it doesn’t recognise it as a website ? Shurtugal crashes a lot so maybe that ? Don’t know Glorfindel

  • Glorfindel

    What’s the name of your website? Oh, and does anyone have it where sometimes you type in “www.shurtugal.com”, and it sends you to “ask.com”? Like as if shurtugal wasn’t a real website. It’s weird, any idea why it would do that?

  • Faolins

    Yep , that’s what I meant Glorfindel , ehat Evarinya said.

    Hi Everyone 🙂

    WOOO !!! 100 comments , well done Mike and others , things starting to look up !!

  • Evarinya

    That sounds like a good idea, totally remake it.. they cant possibly fix it now..

    Glorfindel – he is talking about our site where a bunch of us from on here talk.

  • alucard

    @SeverusSnape: yeah, they replaced Tinker Bell with Toto, and tied up the strings in the end that the book left open for Inkspell. However, these were done well and incorporate wel into the movie. Other than that, I think it was a great adaptation, much better than Eragon.

  • feanarang

    I agree as well. The best thing to do would be to wait five years and then refilm Eragon. It should be done with a different cast (although Brom was good, I thought), different director, different producer, and adifferent screenwriter.

  • SeverusSnape

    alucard: I’ve read the book but haven’t seen the movie, you say it follows the book fairly well?

    I agree with rkstamm that what really needs to be done is to wait like 5 years then completly start from scratch

  • Glorfindel

    Is Evarinya on your what?

  • alucard

    Sorry you’re felling bad, Mike, I caught something nasty myself a few days ago.

    Has anyone seen Inkheart? I thought it was great, and it followed the book reasonably well too.

  • Faolins

    Are you ? Ok 🙂

    Well done Mike ,

  • Evarinya

    Absolutely :] love what your doing Mike!

    P.S umm now i am

  • Athena

    And as usual, “within the next week,” means nothing. We are heading up on two weeks Mike…

  • Faolins

    Hey Evarinya 🙂

    Well done Mike , every time I come on now there’s more and more comments , hope it’s a sign of things to come 🙂

    P.S Evarinya are you on ours ?

  • Evarinya

    Prince Caspian was of my opinion alot better then the book 🙂 they did it quite well!

    hello Faolin 🙂

  • lorearia

    Haven’t see the series of unfortunate events but have the video-game and read the books there is quite a difference. I like the prince caspian movie even if it’s a bit different but it’s great. Some of the boy at my house watched it at about once a day during christmas break.I think the did a good job with it.

  • feanarang

    SeverusSnape:
    Since my earlier proposal of a movie that did as poorly as Eragon as far as following the plot goes was rejected (and rightly so), I have another proposal: The Lemony Snicket Movie. Mashing three books into one movie was not the greatest idea ever. Opinions on that, anyone?

  • feanarang

    Jack:
    I’ll give you that one. Prince Caspian did follow the plot of the book, but added stuff. I went into the movie having heard that it wasn’t exactly like the book, so I actually really enjoyed it.

    Glorfindel:
    That’s something I’ve said myself (though not on shurty, obviously). Cutting out much of their journey to Aslan’s Howe was necessary.

  • rkstamm

    I feel the best thing to do is the same thing done with the first LOTR made in 1978. We need to abandon the first film entirely but not wait 23 years to release a new one. Lets wait 5 years, and start over from scratch. The script writers for LOTR had the advantage of seeing the whole picture, and having access to those who understood the whole mythology well. The scripts were well crafted, and the series was all shot together. If this series continues to have great success with readers, it may be possible to talk investors into doing a series of 4 movies of longer run time.

  • Glorfindel

    Nope, sorry, but I really must interject here Feanarang. Caspian was a good movie. He didn’t support the bringing back of the white witch. He was trying to stay back, and the werewolf was forcing him forward. And they had to change some things. The battle at Miraz’s castle, for instance, wasn’t in the book. It was only discussed. But a lot of the book was their journey to get to Aslan’s Howe, so they had to elaborate a little, or it would have been really boring.

  • Jack

    feanarang–> I disagree. Prince Caspian, while adding a lot that the book didn’t have, still followed the book’s plot. Like Eragon, certain things were altered, but unlike Eragon, Caspian did fairly well.
    On a side note, Voyage of the Dawn Treader will be made by Fox…which also made Eragon. Let’s hope that adaptation will be better.

  • Daniel

    I Am Legend was butchered plenty.

  • feanarang

    Well, the first Narnia movie was pretty good. Prince Caspian was pretty brutal. Half the movie was a battle scene that never took place. Caspian also tried to summon the White Witch, an act that he actively oppposed in the book. So I’d say that Prince Caspian went almost as badly as Eragon.

  • SeverusSnape

    Does anyone remember any other novel to Movie translation that went as badly as eragon did? I can’t, LOTR was a masterpiece, the narnia chronicles and harry potter have been ok, but I can’t remember any novel to movie translations that went as bad as eragon

  • Faolins

    Ok , thanks Trianna , was just wondering your view on his performance 🙂 Thanks again

    Hi Evarinya 🙂

  • Jack

    Don’t worry, Mike; most of us are waiting patiently.

  • Glorfindel

    *Chuckles*. You don’t need to worry about backlash from ME!

  • Trianna

    Faolins,
    I absolutely think that Ed could handle a lead role with a bit more training and experience. But when they cast him for the movie, he only had a few big roles under his belt and it showed. The other actors outshined him in most of the movie. But that is something that can easily be fixed if he kept training.

  • Evarinya

    Hope your better soon Mike!!! :]

  • Mike

    We’re working on Lytherus as we speak. 🙂 Soon… I don’t want to get any more specific for fear of backlash!

  • Glorfindel

    Hmm… I would have to say that you’re doing better than fairly well. I’ve been sick, I understand. Any idea when Lytherus is coming up?

  • lorearia

    As a action/adventure /fantasy movie i liked it. As an adaptation of Eragon, no.

  • Dragonprincess26

    Anyone know when the 4th book is coming out?

  • feanarang

    No one’s mad at you Mike. Looking foward to reading your editorial, and hope you get better soon!

  • Mike

    Writing a full-length article basically summing up the entire plot of a movie which you yourself have to pull together because it isn’t based off of a book plot but loosely based off of plot points scattered throughout multiple novels is a bit harder than you think.

    Couple this with the fact that I’ve got the flu and have two other projects I’m working on and I have to say, I think I’m doing fairly well.

    Thanks for the comments though everyone. Part two will be finished soon. I didn’t want to release a half-arsed written piece, I wanted to do it right. I’m sure most of you will appreciate that once it’s done. 🙂

  • paulie14wyh

    not that it really matters but i think mike should stop giving dates as to when he expects things to be up cause i dont think he has ever met one of his self imposed dead lines

  • feanarang

    Glorfindel: That would be if they remaid Eragon. There’s absolutely no way that Eldest could be filmed with the plot of Eragon destroyed as it was in the movie.

    To me, a remake is the only way to go. If someone like Peter Jackson (who cares about the integrity of a book’s plot) could direct or produce it, it would likely be much better. But WETA Digital should do the CGI and special effects again. They did it for LOTR and for Eragon, and the CGI was very good in both of those movies. Very good? Who am I kidding? LOTR’s CGI was phenomenal, and the Eragon movie’s CGI was amazing as well. Go graphic artists!

  • Jack

    I am really hoping for a remake–a better remake. If I were in the movie business, I’d make it myself.

  • Faolins

    Don’t know if theatres would be willing to have such a long film as well when it is something like LOTR . Inheritance is popular , but it is not in the same league popularity wise as LOTR is.

    Trianna , random question but do you think Ed could become someone who plays a main character as his acting career develops ?

  • paulie14wyh

    i can honestly say that there was nothing good about this movie. i don’t think any of the actors fit their characters well and i don’t know if i would take the chance of another epic fail by remaking it or continuing the series

  • Trianna

    ZeroChaos, There’s a dragon in The Hobbit. Smaug is the thing that caused the need for Bilbo & co.’s adventure in the first place.

    As much as I’m for giving roles to undiscovered actors, I don’t think Ed was quite good enough. He’s a pretty good actor, but a secondary character would have been a better fit for him. Being suddenly thrust into a lead role is tough…believe me, I’m dealing with it now for the show I’m in.

    The rest of the cast was pretty good. However, the make-up and costume crews were awful, and that is inexcusable in a big-budget movie. The director blew all of the money on the CGI effects, and the costumers and make-up artsists were left with nothing.

  • Glorfindel

    Good idea Feanarang, but have they already taken too much out of the movie to use Roran and the flight from Carvahall? Or would that be if they remade the movie?

  • feanarang

    I agree, Glorfindel, Eragon’s training would be tough to transfer to the screen. Perhaps in order to give a sense of time, the movie could focus more on Roran while Eragon is in Ellesmara. The movie would not exclude Eragon’s training, but it would include the “better” parts (from a film aspect). That way, we still see Eragon’s training, aren’t bored of watching Oromis ans him sitting around talking (which was good in the book, but wouldn’t be on film), and still getting a sense of time from following Roran and maybe the Varden and Nasuada.

  • Glorfindel

    Yeah, like the extended editions of the LOTR. The extended edition of the Return of the King, was, I think, 4.5 hours. Also, a lot of space in Brisingr is taken up with things that could be shortened in the movie. Things that aren’t important. Well, not TOO important. The problem is, the part with all of Eragon’s training with Oromis in the book is fairly interesting, but eventually, the two of them talking would get really really dumb. How do you do that part well and not let the watchers get bored, while not totally skipping it and giving the impression that he was only there for two weeks?

  • All.Hail.Emperor.Murtagh

    I suppose that a 3.5-4 hour movie might work, but I’d still say even Eragon would probably need to be split into two of those for it to be totally true to the book. I agree that the LotR movies were sufficiently on story(though I haven’t read all the LotR books), however, so if they could even do it that good, it would work. However, I don’t really see the point making a long Eragon movie(or two movies) when Eldest and especially Brisingr will be far too long for one movies, requiring two long ones at the least.

    There’s a problem with really long movies, though. Theaters would be reluctant to show a 4 hour movie, because it would take up the time of two smaller movies and the people going to see it probably wouldn’t be charged double. They care more about money than how true a movie is to a novel, y’know? It would need to have a lot of scenes deleted from the final cut to get it under 3 hours. That might not be a problem, though, since they could put those scenes in an “unabridged” version for DVD or something.

  • lorearia

    Remaking the movie (better I’d hope) would probably be the best and easiest course to follow, but this idea is intriguing.Keep up the good work and update soon.

  • Glorfindel

    I agree with EricPange about the apparent need for a fifth book. There is a lot of story left. AHEM-
    About what you said about how nobody reads a 500 page book in a single sitting… ummm…. Anyway, I’m sure that the books could be made into a very good three hour movie, as long as the fans were a little tolerant.

  • ZeroChaos

    I love the books and I have read LOTR, The HOBBIT
    I see where some resemblance comes from but I don’t understand how people can say its a LOTR clone, LOTR doesn’t have dragons, no the nazgul are not dragons btw, and it is focused on a group of fighters who were the main chars instead of 1 like Eragon…..anyways back to topic
    movie 1 of Eragon was an Epic Fail…it’s only movie I have ever walked out of within the first 20 mins….my honest opinion is that they remake it with a different director and a better cast.

  • lorearia

    Inheritance is from the same genere as Lotr, maybe those who like lotor will be interested in Inheritance.I like lotor and inheritance both, maybe others do too.

  • Evarinya

    True

  • Faolins

    True but Lord of the Rings is wildly popular and Inheritance isn’t

  • feanarang

    Hear, hear, AHEM! I agree with all but one aspect. I believe that a miniseries is not the only way to go (but certainly a viable and good option). Eragon could be made into a three to four hour movie and still be hugely successful. Look at Lord of the Rings. Although I admit that a few elements of the plot were changed (or left out) in the film trilogy, those movies were unbelievably true to the story as laid out in Tolkien’s books. I believe that the same could be done with the Inheritance Cycle if Eragon were to be remaid into a 3.5 hour movie. Admittedly, Eldest would need to be far longer, and for that book I believe that a miniseries (or at least splitting the book into two movies) would be the way to go.

  • Trianna

    Daniel, CP said he MIGHT write another story set in Alagaesia. He hasn’t officially said he was writing one.

  • All.Hail.Emperor.Murtagh

    I think that it is futile to try to save the movies as they were meant to be made, with the dismal “Eragon” as the first movie. Quite simply, the movie left too deep a scar to mend. They cannot make Eldest at this point, and remaking the first film from the viewpoint of another character would fail spectacularly.

    Seriously, just tell the story of the same movie from a different character’s POV? Though I’m all for “Murtagh: The Movie” I must say that if it is to remain parallel to the first movie, with both storylines being “canonical” for the film series, it wouldn’t work. They would either have to completely contradict the first film as it was, or they would fail.

    It wasn’t just that Eragon the movie cut out a few events. The mutiliation to the book cut far, far deeper than that. Events were totally changed or swapped for others. Characters looked nothing like they did in the books. Ridiculous nonsence that had no place in the Eragon Canon were inserted for no apparent reason. The very laws of magic and telepathy as laid down in the book were contradicted in the movie.(“When a Rider dies, so does his dragon” along with Durza’s ridiculous Sunablaka “Beast”) Not the slightest effort was taken to keep the movie true to the book. Just showing the same horrible movie from Murtagh’s perspective wouldn’t even be the start of a cure. I’m not trying to insult your hypothetical plans, here, I’m just stating the facts as I see them.

    In my opinion and view, the only possible redemption for the Inheritance Cycle as a film series would be to totally forget about the movie as it was and remake it. Eldest can’t be done in this state. If I heard Fox was releasing the next movie after Eragon, I would not go. Eldest would bomb if it had the first film to follow. And I don’t that even remaking the first movie entirely would be sufficient. As has been said, Eragon is 500 pages long, and a book that size quite simply cannot fit in a two hour movie, let alone an hour-and-a-half one.

    I think the best way for the series to translate to the screen would be as a miniseries, showing hour-long episodes weekly. This way, they could easily have enough time to squeeze all of the important events in, since they would be working with at least several hours rather than two or three at the most, and readers could watch it step by step instead of all in one sitting. No one reads a 500 page book in one sitting, so why should they watch a film of one? For Eragon to be a movie with any integrity to the story as laid down in the book, it would need to be cut into two films, each three hours long, at the very least. One movie is not enough, and however the film series might go, it is clear to me that it is destined to fail. A miniseries remains, to me, the only logical choice.

  • lorearia

    It would be nice to have more books and maybe more story .But i might go crazy from waiting.

  • Daniel

    CP has said on more times than one that there will be a book based in Alagaesia that takes place at a different time from the Cycle itself

  • ErikPange

    True, the wait would suck; but I think it would be worth it for another book. I really hope he decides that he does need another, it sure seems like he does.

  • Faolins

    Agree both ways 🙂 Would be great to have an extra book , but two more years to wait ! Think I would go with an extra book tho !

  • lorearia

    But that would mean more books to wait for, and i dont think i could wait too much more to know the end of the story.

  • ErikPange

    By the way; I’v noticed that there’s still a lot of story, maybe more than one more book’s worth. Who agrees Christopher Paolini could, and maybe should, once again add a book, make it five instead of four?

  • ErikPange

    I didn’t mind most of the actors. I thought they cast rolls well enough, though I was a little unsure about Siena Gullary for Arya; maybe she would do all right if they tried to make her look like an elf, Arya more specifically. Yea, and I don’t know if Fox was aware, but there are both elves, and dwarves in Alagaesia. I liked their Brom, Murtagh, and Galbatorix. Ed Speelers was okay for a new actor.

  • ErikPange

    Well, I say there is only one option (and I feel so strongly about this that I registered an account so I could leave this comment). The Eragon Movie absolutely MUST be re-made! They should remake it as a serious movie, meant for an older more mature audience, and much closer to the book. There is no way for them to make anymore inhearitence movies and have them be any good. The only solution is to (probably after waiting a while) make a new movie based on Eragon. Eragon is an epic-fantasy, and it deserves proper film representation, meant for the age group it was intended for. It could be as big as The Lord of the Rings or Harry Potter if they tried and actually gave it a chance.

  • Glorfindel

    Hmmm… I kind of doubt that they thought that they had the next Harry Potter.

  • Daniel

    At least the “Eragon” did better than “Water World” in the box offices.

  • Evarinya

    Yea, Thats because the movie was nothing like the book!

  • Trianna

    Actually, 200m isn’t that much. It’s not NEARLY as much as they had expected to make, at any rate. They expected to have the next Harry Potter on their hands, and that obviously didn’t happen.

  • Somebody

    I say – and I’m of an agreement with alucard – that Eragon should just simply be remade. Why continue on with the work of a terribly made movie? If a sequel or whatever is made to that movie it WILL be made in the likeness of it. Tell me? Do you really want that? To continue on with what you already dislike? I don’t.

    Wait a few years for the memory that…movie to disappear THEN REMAKE IT AFRESH!

  • Evarinya

    Wow thats alot of money

  • Mike

    Just did some checks and domestic and foreign box office results plus DVD sales earned the movie a total of $337 million. There was a $100m production budget and $36m ad budget, so the movie made somewhere around $200m profit.

  • Mike

    I don’t think it’s too fair to count future movies out. We’ve heard nothing from Fox, but the Eragon movie didn’t do too bad money-wise once it was all totaled up and since Fox did Eragon, the franchise has only grown a lot bigger, not shrunken. They could easily learn from their mistakes and restart and be successful.

  • Silvara

    We all know they won’t make another inheritance movie but it is always good to think about what they would put in it if they did. I think they didn’t show enough Murtagh in the movie so “Murtagh – The Movie” would be a very interesing insight to the movie from a different point of view.

    It is a bit like “Midnight Sun” and “Twilight”. Midnight Sun being the first book again from Edward’s piont-of-view.

  • Faolins

    I doubt one WOULD be made, but I wish they did . A Murtagh perspective would be good , but I’f quite like to see from the same prospective as Eragon book . Just my opinion .

    Yep , that’s why , Glorfindel 🙂

  • Glorfindel

    Chris-
    Nope, I doubt they will.

  • Daniel

    I agree with Chris. Fox probably won’t bother making another movie that is related to the Inheritance Cycle. But there is always a slim chance…

  • Evarinya

    I doubt they will.. 🙁

  • lorearia

    I think she was in a deleted scene

  • Chris

    Am I the only one who thinks they aren’t going to bother with another movie? >_>

  • Evarinya

    Was Katrina even present in the movie?

  • Glorfindel

    Thanks for the info on Vroengard. Maybe they dumped Roran, and his “friendship” with Katrina, and all that, so that they don’t have to deal with it in Eldest. If they do make it into a movie, maybe they’ll cut most of the journey to the Varden out, because it’s so huge already. Just a thought. The problem with that would be, cutting out the Carvahall battle and Exodus, would mean taking out almost all action until the end battle. I mean, it wouldn’t be cool to minimize Eragon’s training in Ellesmera, but seriously, that would be a really boring movie right? Glaedr’s monologue when he’s talking to them alone, his studying, the Rimgar. His sparring with Vanir would be the only exciting thing, along with the agaeti blodhren. And I hope that Vanir plays a bigger role.

  • Mike

    Roran didn’t play a major role in Eragon. He wasn’t significant at all until the start of Eldest.

    Vroengard Academy was a promotion that ran up until the Brisingr release. It’s still online but all of the activities are done.

  • Daniel

    Vroengard Academy was supposed to happen during the time leading up to the release of “Brisingr.”

    “Faolin” was already taken so Faolins added the “s” so that he could use (to some extent) the name that he had used on the original comment system. Hope that I cleared that up for you. 🙂

  • Daniel

    *knuckle touch on the article, Mike*

    The flaw that stuck out to me the most from the “Eragon” movie was that Roran was nowhere to be seen. I suppose that Roran could be a friend of Eragon that moved to Therinsford and then came back just as Eragon fled, but this could lead to questions of why Eragon never mentioned Roran.
    Without Roran we would be lacking a major chunk of the “Eldest” story that would have to be compensated for in the movie.
    Sure, Roran doesn’t exactly change the tide of the Battle of the Burning Plains personally, but he does effect Eragon’s emotions and in turn Eragon’s emotions effect the tide of the battle.

  • Glorfindel

    Say, what happened to Vroengard Academy? I never got into it, but it seems to have disappeared. Was there a post about it that I just missed?

  • Glorfindel

    Hey Faolins, random question. Is that last “s” supposed to be present in your name, or was that an accidental typo. Just curious.

  • alucard

    Personally I think that the best solution would be to remake the entire movie, possibly even with screenplay by Paolini himself, like Horowitz did in the Stormbreaker movie, which was based on Horowitz’s book. However.. remaking the movie from Murtagh’s perspective sounds intriguing- I know I’d want to see it! And thx for straying form the norm, Mike!

  • Faolins

    News ?! Actual news ? AWESOME !

    Great idea to start running these mike , they will certainly make for a much more interesting site and will help on the way to making the site how you planned for it to be , a site popular not just just before a good book .

    Well done the first segment was very intersting and the Murtagh – The Movie sounds great .Look forward to thsi weekends one 🙂

  • Trianna

    I think something you need to atleast acknowledge is that ever without having read the book(therefore having nothing to cpmpare the movie to), the movie wasn’t particularly good.

  • Daniel

    So if I signed up for the blogging job, would I be writing articles similar to this. (sorry im not tht up to speed on many blogs or anything)

  • feanarang

    I really enjoy editorials like this, Mike. It’s always very cool to get other people’s ideas and opinions.

  • swenson

    At least 2 hours, at any rate. A 3-hour movie might be pushing it for me…

    Anyway, Murtagh’s point of view would be very interesting indeed. Would Garrett Hedlund still play him, Mike? Because then you’d have two whole sets of fangirls to deal with, the Murtagh ones and the Garrett Hedlund ones!

  • Evarinya

    3 hour movies are good as well, I would love to see Eragon remaid into a 3 hour one 🙂

  • Mike

    I enjoy long movies as well. The reason I say 90 minute movies so many times is because that’s the average length for Hollywood movies. I do prefer longer movies, because I don’t really think a good story can be condensed into a 90 minute movie.

  • ShEEpBiTer

    i still dont see why it cant be a 3 hr movie. I for one would sit through it (if made properly) Lord of the rings was 3 hrs and if i remember correctly titanic was 3hrs and both of those movies made really good money so i dont understand why it has to be only 90 mins im almost positive that Eldest could be made without being in someone elses point of view if it was 3 hrs long

  • Mike

    Remaking the movie is certainly another possible solution. I just wanted to go with a more original idea.

  • Evarinya

    Wow that sounds interresting!

  • PinkLily

    Interesting…I don’t necessarily think that it should happen but I do like the idea. If you ask me it would be better if we just waited a while and then had another company with another director who actually respects the book make it again but I like where you’re going. And I LOVE this style of article. Keep it up!

  • lorearia

    very interesting……(rubbing chin thoughtfully)

  • Grace

    Very good job Mike and entertaining read :). I’m looking forward to the breakdown of ‘Mutagh the Movie’. I think the idea of having the film remade in Murtagh’s perspective is good – I’d just be worried about the screaming fangirls.

  • Dragoness

    I think that they really should have never really released the Eragon movie if it was that different. They should know that the fans of the series were expecting something at least a little bit like their beloved book. It is impossible to mak another movie at tis point unless they fix up all the missed parts. I like your idea of seeing the movie from a different characters perspective Mike. Although i wouldn’t pick Murtagh, I’d probably pick Saphira.

  • Glorfindel

    Mike, I love it. My sincere gratitude and congratulations on an excellent idea. I would also like to say that I agree about with you about the discussion between you and solembum about plot alteration. Anyway, thanks.

  • feanarang

    Very interesting idea, Mike. A movie from Murtagh’s POV would be interesting; however, this hardcore Eragon fan would rather see the movie completely redone. There were not just plot holes, the order in which Eragon did things (and why he did them) was quite different. It would have been perfectly feasible to add 1 hour to the movie to include Dras-Leona, the capture of Eragon, Brom, and Saphira by the Ra’zac, their escape with Murtagh’s help, and the journey north to Gil’ead. A 2.5 hour movie is acceptable if the reason it that length is to include and follow crucial plot lines. That’s just my opinion. On the other hand, a Murtagh movie would almost certainly attract more teenage girls (anyone seeing a Robert Pattinson parallel?) than the Eragon movie did.

  • Mike

    I certainly agree, Solembum4945, with the need to condense the books in order to make the movie a decent length. I think it’s great that Christopher provided them with that information. However, I wouldn’t be so quick to say that because of that, every plot alteration they made in the movie was made with the understanding that it would be OK down the line.

    I haven’t seen the Eragon movie in well over a year, however, I’m going to be watching and taking notes for part three. You’ll see what I am referring to in detail in that editorial.

  • Solembum4945

    I think that that is really cool. I have always thought that other perspectives and stories (I had thought of Brom’s story and Du Fyrn Skulblaka) would make awesome books, or even movies.

    However, what you said about significant backtracking, I disagree.

    Let us visit the fact that I did not, in no uncertain terms, like the fact that the plot was put through a blender. I was quite disappointed.

    But, being the obsessive Eragon fan that I am, I have the Eragon movie with every single bonus feature there is, in widescreen, with a holographic cover. I have watched all of these extensive bonus features, and one of them was about the plot alteration. It was an interview of the director (forget his name) and Christopher, about the plot alteration. It had said that, in order to shrink the book to movie size, Christopher told the director and the screenplay writer what would happen in the later books, like he told Angela, his sister. Therefore, the Eragon Movie people have figured out what they need to keep in the story.

    I personally would have preferred a 6 hour movie, but who else besides another obsessed Eragon fan would want to watch that? It would not make the dough.

    But, I think your Murtagh project will be really cool!

  • Mike

    I know this editorial is a big step away from the normal posts you read here at Shur’tugal. I hope that you all enjoy these types of articles, because our goal here at the site is to produce weekly editorials on the website focusing on a whole range of Inheritance topics. These editorials will offer insight into the Inheritance world through opinions (like the one I’ve just written), games, theories, plot discussions and more.

    I was inspired to write this editorial because, while I wasn’t too thrilled with the outcome of the Eragon movie, I realized there is a lot of potential in the Inheritance movies if they are treated the way they should be. I figured I’d use my position on Shur’tugal to write an editorial on how to fix the Inheritance movies to engage my fellow fans in a discussion on the topic.

    I’m really looking forward to writing part 2, exploring (in depth) my vision for “Murtagh – The Movie”. I’ve already begun working on it and hopefully will release it this coming weekend.

    I’d love to hear your thoughts on my opinions and ideas, my article itself, and the future of Shur’tugal housing editorials in addition to news.